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Old 05-14-2011, 07:23 PM   #1
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Well i just got my copy from Amazon this morning and i noticed right away that the Blu-ray is 1.78 AR while the DVD is 2.35. This is a HUGE error on Mill Creeks part and i'm curious as to why this has happened. I popped the DVD in and it's obvious that the film is cropped for the Blu-ray. I'm a huge fan of this movie and this is VERY disappointing!!

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Old 05-14-2011, 07:27 PM   #2
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Is it really cropped or is it open matte?
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The DVD is more wider and open on the sides while the Blu-ray seems to have been trimmed on the sides.
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Old 05-14-2011, 07:34 PM   #4
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The DVD is more wider and open on the sides while the Blu-ray seems to have been trimmed on the sides.
Thanks for the info. I was going to pick this up.
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Thanks for the info. I was going to pick this up.
You're welcome.

This is ashame because it seemed Mill Creek was doing a fairly ok job with these discs. Hopefully someone will be able to do some screen comparisions but it's pretty noticeable from what i checked. I was hoping to ditch my DVD but now i may have to hold onto it.
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Old 05-15-2011, 12:31 AM   #6
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Yes. Thank you for the heads up visualsynth. I'll make sure and avoid this one.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:12 AM   #7
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Looks like same as the Miramax, the have the Hi Def Cable TV tranfers that are matted. Could be this is the only one in the batch that is not 1:85. Too bad, I thought they were doing a semi decent job. I'll hold off on any future titles until I get feedback.
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Was it shot anamorphic? If it's not then the blu-ray is more likely open-matte than cropped.
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Old 05-15-2011, 03:42 AM   #9
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Looks like same as the Miramax, the have the Hi Def Cable TV tranfers that are matted. Could be this is the only one in the batch that is not 1:85. Too bad, I thought they were doing a semi decent job. I'll hold off on any future titles until I get feedback.
Another Stakeout and Ernest Goes to Camp are both 2.39 originally and have the proper aspect ratio (thankfully).

Given the hit or miss 1080i/1080p transfers and all of them being DTS HD MA 2.0 tracks rather than 5.1, it looks like Mill Creek is just releasing whatever is given to them rather than implementing any type of company quality control (the erroneous tech specs on the back covers demonstrate little care even over the things they do have control over).

It may just be luck that any of their releases are even a step above something like Echo Bridge just by default of having access to better, in comparison, masters to encode (with credit to not tinkering further to overcompensate). Otherwise, if they can't control what they receive for masters and/or can't, or won't, spend what it would take to remaster some of their possibly higher selling titles that might warrant that kind of expense (and if Echo Bridge doesn't do so for things like From Dusk Till Dawn or Equilibrium, I'm not hopeful Mill Creek will either), their releases might continue to vary wildly in quality.
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Old 05-23-2011, 08:50 PM   #10
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Too make matters worse is the opening and closing credits are in 2.35 aspect ratio!

Oh well, the transfer was pretty good as was the film, bit OAR for the full show would have been much more preferred! (Glad I payed less than 5 bones for it!)
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Found this thread while looking for a review. The title just dropped to $5.49 and I was interested (blind buy) just for the cast listing alone. Oh well, I guess I will have to pass due to the AR issue.

For those of you "lucky enough" to already own this copy, post a review or comment- the page has no reviews/comments and if not for my super skills of scrolling to the bottom of the page to find this thread, I would be out $5.49.

(Better save my money - bought Enter the Dragon for $6 and NOW I am reading about the jaggies. Also just found out about Event Horizon ($6) vertical stretching issues)- oh well there went $12!
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Found this thread while looking for a review. The title just dropped to $5.49 and I was interested (blind buy) just for the cast listing alone. Oh well, I guess I will have to pass due to the AR issue.

For those of you "lucky enough" to already own this copy, post a review or comment- the page has no reviews/comments and if not for my super skills of scrolling to the bottom of the page to find this thread, I would be out $5.49.

(Better save my money - bought Enter the Dragon for $6 and NOW I am reading about the jaggies. Also just found out about Event Horizon ($6) vertical stretching issues)- oh well there went $12!
The vertical stretching with Event Horizon is very difficult to notice. It's almost impossible to know it's stretched unless you are watching the DVD next to it and even then it's minor.
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The vertical stretching with Event Horizon is very difficult to notice. It's almost impossible to know it's stretched unless you are watching the DVD next to it and even then it's minor.
Thanks. Also for those interested, here is a list - not sure how up to date it is though:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...-want-to-avoid
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Another Stakeout and Ernest Goes to Camp are both 2.39 originally and have the proper aspect ratio (thankfully).

Given the hit or miss 1080i/1080p transfers and all of them being DTS HD MA 2.0 tracks rather than 5.1, it looks like Mill Creek is just releasing whatever is given to them rather than implementing any type of company quality control (the erroneous tech specs on the back covers demonstrate little care even over the things they do have control over).
To be honest, all of the films that Mill Creek have released were not Dolby Digital releases. All of them were stereo releases when presented theatrically. The 5.1 mixes on the DVDs were remixes, so in some part, Mill Creek/Buena Vista is being faithful to the original source.

It'll be the next wave that'll determine if Mill Creek is using whatever is handed to them or there is some QA going on as there are native Dolby Digital 5.1 films being released.
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The vertical stretching with Event Horizon is very difficult to notice. It's almost impossible to know it's stretched unless you are watching the DVD next to it and even then it's minor.
+1
The Event Horizon Blu-ray is excellent, the stretching issue is hardly noticeable. It really only looks odd in one or two brief scenes, otherwise it almost adds a bit of mystery and atmosphere to the movie.
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Thanks. Also for those interested, here is a list - not sure how up to date it is though:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/foru...-want-to-avoid
Hey thats my list. I need to update it badly!!!
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To be honest, all of the films that Mill Creek have released were not Dolby Digital releases. All of them were stereo releases when presented theatrically. The 5.1 mixes on the DVDs were remixes, so in some part, Mill Creek/Buena Vista is being faithful to the original source.

It'll be the next wave that'll determine if Mill Creek is using whatever is handed to them or there is some QA going on as there are native Dolby Digital 5.1 films being released.
The Ernest dbl feature blu has 3 sound choices per film.

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Hey thats my list. I need to update it badly!!!
A great resource indeed, and I am sure a lot of work has gone into it. If you port that over here in a thread, please let me know - I would help where possible.

Having a concise list of problem Blus or Blus with just plain crappy transfers would be welcome indeed. I will typically avoid crappy transfers, and will scour the technical aspects of reviews before even pulling the trigger on $5 Blus. I bought Enter the Dragon based on the reviews on the movie's title page - no one mentioned the jaggy issue - but I found out more when I dug into the thread. It still hasn't shipped and I might change my mind on it anyway.

Again, let us know if that thread gets brought this way - many would appreciate it and I'm certain it would be destined for "sticky" status!

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So would it be better off just to buy the dvd that comes with 2 other movies (Disorganized Crime and Another Stakeout) for the same $5 as the blu ray? I really like Money For Nothing and consider it to be Cusack's most underrated/overlooked movie (though I am a huge Cusack fan).

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The vertical stretching with Event Horizon is very difficult to notice. It's almost impossible to know it's stretched unless you are watching the DVD next to it and even then it's minor.
there's a few shots where it really stands out (some of the screenshots on this site are from those moments where it does) but for the $6 they had it for last week i can overlook it since there probably won't be a new transfer for some time
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