Archived: Ask the Insiders: Judgment Day Edition

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by Bombthroat

Target is the second largest retailer in the US. Only Wal-mart is larger. Who were you referring to?

I believe he is referring to Best Buy who is the largest seller of BD's of any B&M store, probably any store period online included. I would assume Circuit City is also in that group but not nearly as large, but larger than Target and Wal-mart in terms of HD sales.

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wow, what a day so far.
I flew back to SoCal because our dog went into congestive heart failure (he's doing fine now) and one of the few board certified Cardiologists (in Veterinary medicine) is in Lawndale, so if Dr. Lesser is reading this, here is a BIG ………..Thank You from Penton-Man.

Penton,

Glad to hear that you dog is doing fine. I bet the Vet told you to take your dog off of Maya's Christmas diet as part of a long term wellness program.

My dog had a similar issue and he is now on strict pet food rations. He hates his new health food but he is much better as a result.

By the way, thanks for all the great Blu-ray news and your hard work. This is truly an awesome time to be a Blu-ray supporter.

[PaulGo]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

About as close as a drunken sailor getting a date with Queen Elizabeth II, while yelling into the window of her carriage as it is passing by in a procession.
Please, spare me anymore after-the-fact internet intrigue.

I believe that our forum has the only Fox studio Executive anywhere on the internet as an Insider and once he gets here on a regular basis, I know that he will not refute this, if you ask him about it directly. Now…..what other people looking at things through red colored sunglasses may think……..that is a different matter.

Is that *revelation* getting some sour grapes traction over the internet ….in a coulda, woulda, shoulda………. red slant kind of way?
Guys, are you forgetting the four stones (i.e. Fox, Disney, Sony, Lionsgate) I talked about several weeks back in The Fifth Element post with the appropriate YouTube link and the blasting of HD DVD into smithereens at the end of the clip by Leeloo(WB)…….
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...4&postcount=63

If people care to dwell now on past history, I think some should be asking how irritated Toshiba is about a certain software company for abandoning them during the defining moment of the format war.
In keeping with your “flirting” theme, it was kinda like ………

Tosh………
”But you promised you would marry me and it turned out to be a one night stand.”

Software Company……..
“Wam, Bam………Thank You Mam…..It’s been swell but, marry into a family with packaged goods?,…… sorry you got the wrong impression”. ...

I am glad you clarified the Fox thing, Mr. Vaughn consistently states facts from an alternate universe about this. I also stated many times about Microsoft screwing Toshiba. Here is one of the posts:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showpost.p...&postcount=995

[DrinkMore]

This was asked in the thread before this one..

As you would expect, we think we can make something that works well on PSP as a first step. The schedule is not fixed yet, but it would be interesting to know how the members here feel about how attractive a feature this is.

and I was wondering if there was any new info on this? I believe paidgeek said that.

Thanks!

[onanie]

Originally Posted by Razter

Penton: Is it possible to get CJPlay here? It's not like he will run in trouble with WB exklusive and no Amir & Co posting at BD.com

On that note, how was Amir involved in getting CJPlay in trouble, and how did Amir obtain the real names of some of our insiders here?

[spicynacho]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Anyway guys, I’ve got to hop on a plane and get back to Vegas - LVCC - Central Hall……..quick!

Someone must be having a hair crisis, perhaps Howard Stringer is having a bad hair day.

[Alan Gordon]

Originally Posted by spicynacho

Someone must be having a hair crisis, perhaps Howard Stringer is having a bad hair day.

Howard Stringer at 4:53 P.M.

You figured it out!!

~Alan

[Rob Tomlin]

Originally Posted by elwaylite

Philips CES show just said Target is going BLU exclusive????

Originally Posted by Deciazulado

I think you can go back in time and see that was another P-M exclusive hint a long long post ago in an insiders thread far far away

It most certainly was!

[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by androvsky

I've been thinking a little bit, and I've realized how spoiled I've become thanks to the insiders in this thread. There's a ton of questions I have about other areas semi-related to Sony and Hollywood (why does the xbox 360 keep getting jrpgs before the ps3, exactly what digital projector is AMC really installing in new theaters) and I realized that getting the kind of dirt and inside info is really quite rare. It's when I see press releases like Toshiba acting surprised about WB going blu and I think "I knew they were leaning that way months ago" that I know that we've got good insiders.

Oh look, I snuck in those completely off-topic questions anyway. Seriously though, thanks guys.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_cinema

All the info you can have about the Projectors that are being install at movie theaters.

[reiella]

Originally Posted by Bombthroat

Target is the second largest retailer in the US. Only Wal-mart is larger. Who were you referring to?

HDM Retailer market size is different though, currently. That'll change, of course, but I suspect that's what was meant.

[iceman]

I really hope Toshiba are big enough to admit their defeat and officially declare HD DVD dead within a near future. However, another scenario could be that they won't declare HD DVD dead ever -even though Universal and Paramount are releasing on BD- to keep confusion among new HD consumers, since Toshiba still makes money from DVDs. Then it's up to the big retailers to pull the plug on HD DVD. In either case, I hope the retailers realizes what's best for them and stop stocking HD DVD shortly after CES. The retailers won't make much money from digital downloads.

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by Iceman

I really hope Toshiba are big enough to admit their defeat and officially declare HD DVD dead within a near future. However, another scenario could be that they won't declare HD DVD dead ever -even though Universal and Paramount are releasing on BD- to keep confusion among new HD consumers, since Toshiba still makes money from DVDs. Then it's up to the big retailers to pull the plug on HD DVD. In either case, I hope the retailers realizes what's best for them and stop stocking HD DVD shortly after CES. The retailers won't make much money from digital downloads.

Paramount has already proved their *****s for a payout. Worst case scenario, the BDA goes back to them with a bag of cash and gets them to go neutral or Blu exclusive. Retailers are already getting pissed off with this format war and I expect they'll start yanking the rug out from under HD DVD if they don't do it themselves within the next few months.

[coolmilo]

Originally Posted by Iceman

However, another scenario could be that they won't declare HD DVD dead ever

This is what I am most worried about at this point. For Toshiba to admit defeat would create many "window seat jobs" amongst the Toshiba HD DVD executives and so they may keep the product alive to protect their jobs.

[richteer]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Wow, what a day so far.
I flew back to SoCal because our dog went into congestive heart failure (he's doing fine now) and one of the few board certified Cardiologists (in Veterinary medicine) is in Lawndale, so if Dr. Lesser is reading this, here is a BIG ………..Thank You from Penton-Man.

Anyway guys, I’ve got to hop on a plane and get back to Vegas - LVCC - Central Hall……..quick!

Later

Glad to hear you little boy is doing OK. I was devestated when I lost my little (canine) boy, Judge, in June 2006...

[richard lichtenfelt]

Owners of hd dvd are less important to promote than new adopters to hd.
The people who bought hd dvd are more likely to purchase blu-ray as they are already fans of hi-def, and aware of the benefits of hd over standard dvd.

[shamus]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I flew back to SoCal because our dog went into congestive heart failure...

Was this after the Warner announcement? He wasn't an HD-DVD owner was he?

[treyw00]

nope, just shock and excitement from this late christmas gift

[TauRus]

I know this was said a thousand times here already but please let me extend most sincere thanks to the BDA insiders, Paidgeek, Talkstr8t, Maxpower, Kjack, Penton for the support they offered us along this long and pretty dramatic ride! Kudos to you gentlemen!
Special thanks to the moderators of this forum: you guys are great and did an excellent job of keeping the red trolls at bay allowing us to communicate here, share our joy, discuss opinions, etc.
And of course we all need to thank the thousands and thousands of lurkers who are not even registered on this forum, but who had an open mind to understand the difference between this fine forum that for most of us has become quite an integral part of our daily lives, and a site like AVS. We all won!
And my big welcome to those who will be joining us from the other side!

[Pilam69]

Originally Posted by richard lichtenfelt

Owners of hd dvd are less important to promote than new adopters to hd.
The people who bought hd dvd are more likely to purchase blu-ray as they are already fans of hi-def, and aware of the benefits of hd over standard dvd.

Can we please let this topic drop as I and many others come here in hopes of CES news and our insiders are going to be stuck reading pages about incentive programs rather than reporting on what they've learned while attending the conference.

+1

Jesus guys, start a new thread already.

[gand41f]

Question to insiders:

At CES, Toshiba's execs were conspicuously missing. For instance, Sony and Panasonic sent their chairmen to give presentations. However, Toshiba did not even have Mr. Fujii, the person who's generally considered the driving force behind HD-DVD. In fact, Japanese news is reporting that Mr. Fujii cancelled his trip.

I believe it is very unusual for a corporation the size of Toshiba to not have a single person from headquarters at CES. Are there any rumblings in the industry regarding possible "new directions" Toshiba is considering, maybe without Mr. Fujii?

enjoy
gandalf