Wall Street Journal - Universal quiet, Paramount staying - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

AaronSCH · 01-07-2008, 04:38 AM

I don't think silence is evidence of anything. However, I can't see how they could possibly think there is a future in their folly. It's over and they know it. They are just going to look for a respectable way out.

sj001 · 01-07-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by HighDefChief

Read it at high def digest. But like I said before it doesn't matter because the only thing that matters is what happens. I don't know why sj001 got all defensive about it

No, just tired of hearing his spin on things that's all. Battle fatigue.

Everything's cool.

HighDefChief · 01-07-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sj001

We know that HD-DVD probably approached FOX/Warner. That's pretty certain. Fox is a hardcore Blu-ray supporter, they would never release on HD-DVD.

However, the way he implied it is that FOX was getting ready to jump over to HD-DVD along with Warner, then got cold feet at the last second. Total Hd-DVD leaning spin. Not fact at all, FUD.

Calm down, don't get so defensive, geezz you're acting like WB just gave your format of choice the death slap.

kotton247 · 01-07-2008, 04:40 AM

It was also unclear yesterday whether the other studios backing HD-DVD would change sides, although it is understood Paramount has reserved the right to switch its backing to Blu-ray.

Welcome back soon traitors. Coming back with their tail between their legs. Probably issuing a statement that says " uh yeah....we always knew Blu-ray was superior, but Bill wasn't a good lover so were back."

Heres the link to the story:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/8d56c2a8-bc8...0779fd2ac.html

sj001 · 01-07-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by HighDefChief

Calm down, don't get so defensive, geezz you're acting like WB just gave your format of choice the death slap.

Just stating facts. Read my post above.

HighDefChief · 01-07-2008, 04:40 AM

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Originally Posted by sj001

No, just tired of hearing his spin on things that's all. Battle fatigue.

Everything's cool.

Cool, I understand, peace out.

HighDefChief · 01-07-2008, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by sj001

Just stating facts. Read my post above.

Well both our facts collaborate perfectly so I still don't understand what you're trying to prove.

Wheelman1970 · 01-07-2008, 04:43 AM

Looks like they'll be handing back some cash too.

darkpoet25 · 01-07-2008, 04:44 AM

There was another post about this already. I thought this was an interesting read none the less. Michael Bay did say that it would be soon that we would see Transformers on Blu. Nice to see they had an opt out in their agreement.

Mote · 01-07-2008, 04:44 AM

Already being discussed here:

https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=30168

kotton247 · 01-07-2008, 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Wheelman1970

Looks like they'll be handing back some cash too.

Yeah. Toshiba will need all the refunds they can get at this point.

HeavyHitter · 01-07-2008, 04:45 AM

What happened to the HD DUD wet dream claim of Disney support? I remember the DUD boys at AVS actually starting threads of "WHEN" Disney comes to support HD DVD. Even if Toshiba did approach Fox, interesting how Disney is not even mentioned in all of this gossip.

kotton247 · 01-07-2008, 04:45 AM

Shit. No one is ever fast on finding these articles around here. When WB goes exclusive, now I can't keep up

. My bad.

XSilentCobraX · 01-07-2008, 04:48 AM

That whould be great if they came back to support blu soon, but still, traitors for ever leaving us !!

HighDefChief · 01-07-2008, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

What happened to the HD DUD wet dream claim of Disney support? I remember the DUD boys at AVS actually starting threads of "WHEN" Disney comes to support HD DVD. Even if Toshiba did approach Fox, interesting how Disney is not even mentioned in all of this gossip.

One of the things that was mentioned a lot by some HD DVD supporters was that Disney helped developed the HDi technology used for HD DVDs interactivity. Though I have never seen anything confirming that.

pyronuc · 01-07-2008, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by kotton247

It was also unclear yesterday whether the other studios backing HD-DVD would change sides, although it is understood Paramount has reserved the right to switch its backing to Blu-ray.

Welcome back soon traitors. Coming back with their tail between their legs. Probably issuing a statement that says " uh yeah....we always knew Blu-ray was superior, but Bill wasn't a good lover so were back."

Heres the link to the story:

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/8d56c2a8-bc8...0779fd2ac.html

I wouldn't hold my breath for that one. I'm not saying it won't happen, I just don't believe that Paramount will jump back to the blu-ray side all of a sudden. I'm not sure of the arrangements of their contract with Toshiba, and what they would have to do to get back out of it.

Having said that, I hope I'm wrong on this one, and I hope they do come back to blu-ray sooner than later. I've been wanting to see Transformers on blu-ray since they first announced it, and then they pissed me off by taking Toshiba's bribe and cancelling the blu-ray release.

I think Universal is better poised to come on over to the blu-ray side. As far as I know, they don't have any contractual obligations to stay with HD DVD. Hopefully, it won't be too long before they're both back on our side, but I won't be expecting anything else major to come along for awhile.

...Although an announcement at CES declaring at least neutrality, or better yet blu-ray exclusivity, from either of these two studios would be just oh-so-sweet.

I guess we can hope for the best, but personally, I'll won't be expecting such an announcement by either studio just yet.

xwingsct · 01-07-2008, 04:59 AM

There's no way that a company as big as Paramount will lock themself in a contract without exit strategy. We just didn't hear the whole detail of the contract.
Paramount is calling the shot here not Toshiba they can just say no thanks. It's probably written in a contract somewhere that if the sale of the content is not what they're expected they can get out. Otherwise they'll end up loosing millions.
After friday's news I don't think they'll be that many poeple buying HD-DVD movies now.

buckshot · 01-07-2008, 05:04 AM

come on baby. daddy needs a new announcement. daddy needs his news fix.

miokti · 01-07-2008, 05:05 AM

Paramount never had confidence in HD-DVD since the beginning... if they did, their contract wouldn't say "18 months only". Think about it, if Paramount really believed the HD-DVD is the best... their contract should say "forever" or something... they switched for the money, with every intention of coming back to Blu or neutral after the 18th month. They probably guessed that HD-DVD had 18 months to go... which was way off... HD-DVD had considerably less...

Geech · 01-07-2008, 05:12 AM

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Originally Posted by buckshot

come on baby. daddy needs a new announcement. daddy needs his news fix.

Thats exactly how I've felt these past 3 days

01-07-2008, 04:40 AM	#44
kotton247 Special Member Member since:Aug 2007 Location:NC Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:25	Paramounts coming back quicker than I thought It was also unclear yesterday whether the other studios backing HD-DVD would change sides, although it is understood Paramount has reserved the right to switch its backing to Blu-ray. Welcome back soon traitors. Coming back with their tail between their legs. Probably issuing a statement that says " uh yeah....we always knew Blu-ray was superior, but Bill wasn't a good lover so were back." Heres the link to the story: http://www.ft.com/cms/s/8d56c2a8-bc8...0779fd2ac.html

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01-07-2008, 04:38 AM	#41
AaronSCH Banned Member since:Sep 2007 Trading Score:1	I don't think silence is evidence of anything. However, I can't see how they could possibly think there is a future in their folly. It's over and they know it. They are just going to look for a respectable way out.

01-07-2008, 04:43 AM	#48
Wheelman1970 Senior Member Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Calgary, AB	Looks like they'll be handing back some cash too.

01-07-2008, 04:44 AM	#49
darkpoet25 Blu-ray Samurai Member since:Feb 2007 Location:Indianapolis, IN Home Theater Gallery:45 4K collection:50 Blu-ray collection:297 Blu-ray reviews: 4	There was another post about this already. I thought this was an interesting read none the less. Michael Bay did say that it would be soon that we would see Transformers on Blu. Nice to see they had an opt out in their agreement.

01-07-2008, 04:44 AM	#50
Mote Active Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Playa Del Rey, CA. Blu-ray reviews:2	Already being discussed here: https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=30168

01-07-2008, 04:45 AM	#52
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	What happened to the HD DUD wet dream claim of Disney support? I remember the DUD boys at AVS actually starting threads of "WHEN" Disney comes to support HD DVD. Even if Toshiba did approach Fox, interesting how Disney is not even mentioned in all of this gossip.

01-07-2008, 04:48 AM	#54
XSilentCobraX Senior Member Member since:May 2007 Location:Denmark Home Theater Gallery:10 Blu-ray collection:264 Blu-ray reviews:135	That whould be great if they came back to support blu soon, but still, traitors for ever leaving us !!

01-07-2008, 04:59 AM	#57
xwingsct Senior Member Member since:Nov 2007 Blu-ray reviews: 3	There's no way that a company as big as Paramount will lock themself in a contract without exit strategy. We just didn't hear the whole detail of the contract. Paramount is calling the shot here not Toshiba they can just say no thanks. It's probably written in a contract somewhere that if the sale of the content is not what they're expected they can get out. Otherwise they'll end up loosing millions. After friday's news I don't think they'll be that many poeple buying HD-DVD movies now.

01-07-2008, 05:04 AM	#58
buckshot Blu-ray Guru Member since:Feb 2007 Location:san die ego Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:9	come on baby. daddy needs a new announcement. daddy needs his news fix.

01-07-2008, 05:05 AM	#59
miokti Expert Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:San Diego, CA	Paramount never had confidence in HD-DVD since the beginning... if they did, their contract wouldn't say "18 months only". Think about it, if Paramount really believed the HD-DVD is the best... their contract should say "forever" or something... they switched for the money, with every intention of coming back to Blu or neutral after the 18th month. They probably guessed that HD-DVD had 18 months to go... which was way off... HD-DVD had considerably less...

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