The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 98 - Blu-ray Forum

frezaina · 06-10-2011, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

Get over it. Your allegation about PJ not looking into this is quite funny, because there's no way we can know. Perhaps the release will have an insert saying it was approved by him. Also, did any of you forget that the EE of Fellowship was created from a new master?

This complaining is worse than the Star Wars fanboys crying like babies about LOL NO ORIGINAL RELEASES.

yeah, it's a new master and...

The colors are supposed to look like on the dvds, in other words white should look white and not greenish. i'm sure peter jackson didn't watched this otherwise
he wouldn't have aproved such a different color to what was projected in the theaters.

Rustam15 · 06-10-2011, 04:23 PM

Believe it or not, my complaint is not that everything is greenish... But I saw several shots that looked worse is sharpness. Particularly the one where Gandalf is in Saruman's tower. The shot of Rivendell looked amazing, but there were more less impressive shots. So, I don't know what to think. All this wait time is killing me.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by frezaina

there you go folks.

DVD vs blu-ray extended

http://postimage.org/image/15xlfc8p0/

why did they have to mess up with the color, jesus! i'm sure PJ didn't even look into this. all this amazing new scan will all this detail with a huge green tint all over it.

Ugly

I think some of you would still defend these if they were black and white

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frezaina

yeah, it's a new master and...

The colors are supposed to look like on the dvds, in other words white should look white and not greenish. i'm sure peter jackson didn't watched this otherwise
he wouldn't have aproved such a different color to what was projected in the theaters.

New master doesn't mean the same one used for the DVDs. It was made clear that a new master was used.

Your proof that he wouldn't have approved?

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by frezaina

yeah, it's a new master and...

The colors are supposed to look like on the dvds, in other words white should look white and not greenish. i'm sure peter jackson didn't watched this otherwise
he wouldn't have aproved such a different color to what was projected in the theaters.

This is not a new scan... its NOT a new master... its the original master BEFORE the color corrections were done, and the DNR applied. People B****ED about the TE being all DNR'd and stuff, so they went back to the original master. And of course PJ wasn't involved, he's WAY too busy with The Hobbit. They just took the original digital master and released it instead. And now people continue to B***H.

A new master and new scans would mean a TON of money in digital effects would have to be spent. WB did not spend that kind of money on this release.

bookcase · 06-10-2011, 04:28 PM

People are sucking all the joy out of this release.

42041 · 06-10-2011, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

This is not a new scan... its NOT a new master... its the original master BEFORE the color corrections were done, and the DNR applied. People B****ED about the TE being all DNR'd and stuff, so they went back to the original master. And of course PJ wasn't involved, he's WAY too busy with The Hobbit. They just took the original digital master and released it instead. And now people continue to B***H.

um, evidence for this?

HeavyHitter · 06-10-2011, 04:31 PM

Not all of the shots look so green. Looks at the shot with Gandolph. It's some of the outdoor scenes (and we haven't seen them all). Surely, these are just some revisions Jackson decided to make - don't sweat it. Ridley Scott did it with Gladiator and many other directors have done it with their films. They aren't going to &!@$ these up. Fellowship has far more detail and looks like film-like now instead of the digital look that the theatrical version took on.

Strevlac · 06-10-2011, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

This is not a new scan... its NOT a new master... its the original master BEFORE the color corrections were done, and the DNR applied. People B****ED about the TE being all DNR'd and stuff, so they went back to the original master. And of course PJ wasn't involved, he's WAY too busy with The Hobbit. They just took the original digital master and released it instead. And now people continue to B***H.

A new master and new scans would mean a TON of money in digital effects would have to be spent. WB did not spend that kind of money on this release.

I hope everyone ignores this post. It is completely wrong.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 04:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

I hope everyone ignores this post. It is completely wrong.

Especially when the release was announced it was stressed that a new 2K master was being used.

HeavyHitter · 06-10-2011, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

This is not a new scan... its NOT a new master... its the original master BEFORE the color corrections were done, and the DNR applied. People B****ED about the TE being all DNR'd and stuff, so they went back to the original master. And of course PJ wasn't involved, he's WAY too busy with The Hobbit. They just took the original digital master and released it instead. And now people continue to B***H.

A new master and new scans would mean a TON of money in digital effects would have to be spent. WB did not spend that kind of money on this release.

More internet forum conspiracy theories.

It's QUITE obvious that both versions stem from different masters even though it has been confirmed from reputable sources and Warner. The actual grain structure is smaller and tighter on the extended version - new transfers display this sort of look. The grain on the theatrical is larger and blobby - typically of older scans.

In addition, the color space is obviously wider on the extended, as well. The Gladiator releases were also good examples of this - this cannot happen unless their is a new transfer.

Todd Smith · 06-10-2011, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by bookcase

People are sucking all the joy out of this release.

For good reason.....it looks like the ****ing Matrix.

Looks great otherwise, but this heavy green tint is horrible.
Maybe it will be an easy fix though by simply boosting blue/green in the display?

Lope de Aguirre · 06-10-2011, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mredman

some people actually complain about these here. I am baffled that really leads me to think no matter what they had done they would have complained.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58252
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58250
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58223
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58228
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58229
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58226

i mean the detail in these in just incredible

awesome!!!

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Todd Smith

For good reason.....it looks like the ****ing Matrix.

This is probably the dumbest hyperbole regarding these screens yet. The amount of green Fellowship is nowhere near comparable to The Matrix's. Hell, Gandalf at Bag End looks more accurate to the color of grass than on the TE BD. I love it.

Let's face it. There will be more butthurt fans about this release because "Oh, my God! The color looks different even though this happens on a boatload of Blu-rays with new masters!"

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

More internet forum conspiracy theories.

It's QUITE obvious that both versions stem from different masters even though it has been confirmed from reputable sources and Warner. The actual grain structure is smaller and tighter on the extended version - new transfers display this sort of look. The grain on the theatrical is larger and blobby - typically of older scans.

In addition, the color space is obviously wider on the extended, as well. The Gladiator releases were also good examples of this - this cannot happen unless their is a new transfer.

I'm sorry, I misinterpreted what Bill Hunt said right here on 3/21...

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa191.html

okay, so it is a NEW transfer from the existing 2k digital files... which means its going back to before a lot of the color correction was done. they did NOT re scan the film, however, I was CORRECT. Sorry if I worded things a bit wrong, but this is definitely NOT complete overhaul of the films. Its the original digital files that are already in existence.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 06-10-2011, 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I'm sorry, I misinterpreted what Bill Hunt said right here on 3/21...

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa191.html

okay, so it is a NEW transfer from the existing 2k digital files... which means its going back to before a lot of the color correction was done. they did NOT re scan the film, however, I was CORRECT. Sorry if I worded things a bit wrong, but this is definitely NOT complete overhaul of the films. Its the original digital files that are already in existence.

Thanks for the clarification, mang.

Andrewtst · 06-10-2011, 05:15 PM

Why so troublesome! if you dislike the green tint, then don't buy it, stick with your current DVD or the theatrical release.

mrpink134 · 06-10-2011, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

This is probably the dumbest hyperbole regarding these screens yet. The amount of green Fellowship is nowhere near comparable to The Matrix's. Hell, Gandalf at Bag End looks more accurate to the color of grass than on the TE BD. I love it.

Let's face it. There will be more butthurt fans about this release because "Oh, my God! The color looks different even though this happens on a boatload of Blu-rays with new masters!"

Todd is good at complaining about theses movies, he complained so much on the last ones he got a vacation from the forums. Pay him no mind he will never be happy with these releases.

motorheadache95 · 06-10-2011, 05:19 PM

As long as the discs represent the color-timing Jackson wanted, I'm fine with it. Hopefully this isn't some kind of Star Wars DVD level botch job. I'll probably get this, but I'm waiting for reviews before I do anything.

42041 · 06-10-2011, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

I'm sorry, I misinterpreted what Bill Hunt said right here on 3/21...

http://www.thedigitalbits.com/mytwocentsa191.html

okay, so it is a NEW transfer from the existing 2k digital files... which means its going back to before a lot of the color correction was done. they did NOT re scan the film, however, I was CORRECT. Sorry if I worded things a bit wrong, but this is definitely NOT complete overhaul of the films. Its the original digital files that are already in existence.

Just because they're using the original digital data as the source does not mean they didn't re-grade the colors.

06-10-2011, 04:23 PM	#1942
Rustam15 Senior Member Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Western MASS 4K collection:194 Blu-ray collection:1641 DVD collection:447 Digital collection:3 Blu-ray reviews: 8	Believe it or not, my complaint is not that everything is greenish... But I saw several shots that looked worse is sharpness. Particularly the one where Gandalf is in Saruman's tower. The shot of Rivendell looked amazing, but there were more less impressive shots. So, I don't know what to think. All this wait time is killing me.

06-10-2011, 04:28 PM	#1946
bookcase Blu-ray Champion Member since:Sep 2008 Location:Boston, MA 4K collection:14 Blu-ray collection:155 iTunes collection:1207 Trading Score:2	People are sucking all the joy out of this release.

06-10-2011, 04:31 PM	#1948
HeavyHitter Blu-ray Baron Member since:Jul 2007 Home Theater Gallery:4 Trading Score:154	Not all of the shots look so green. Looks at the shot with Gandolph. It's some of the outdoor scenes (and we haven't seen them all). Surely, these are just some revisions Jackson decided to make - don't sweat it. Ridley Scott did it with Gladiator and many other directors have done it with their films. They aren't going to &!@$ these up. Fellowship has far more detail and looks like film-like now instead of the digital look that the theatrical version took on.

06-10-2011, 05:15 PM	#1957
Andrewtst Special Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Johor, Malaysia 4K collection:152 Blu-ray collection:450 DVD collection:5 iTunes collection:155 Blu-ray reviews: 40 Trading Score:1	Why so troublesome! if you dislike the green tint, then don't buy it, stick with your current DVD or the theatrical release.

06-10-2011, 05:19 PM	#1959
motorheadache95 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jul 2009	As long as the discs represent the color-timing Jackson wanted, I'm fine with it. Hopefully this isn't some kind of Star Wars DVD level botch job. I'll probably get this, but I'm waiting for reviews before I do anything.

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