The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 102 - Blu-ray Forum

Velmeran · 06-10-2011, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

Or how about Olórin?

That one is a legit name for him though and I like it.

Brodo Faggins · 06-10-2011, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Would you have preferred Bladorthin instead of Gandalf? 'Cause that's what he was initially called.

Thorin Oakenshield was initially called Gandalf, and Smaug was initially named Pryftan. Ahh, so glad Tolkien changed those names!

Yeah I read that somewhere. I was actually referring to someone a few pages ago who used that spelling.

rltilley · 06-10-2011, 07:29 PM

I'm gonna put a little faith in WB here. There is very little chance that after the storm that erupted after the Theatricals were released (DNR, double-dipping, greed, etc.) that they would release the Extendeds with serious color issues. I just can't imagine that level of stupidity or incompetence.

The screen grabs do concern me but I'm not cancelling my pre-order. I hope I'm right.

frogmort · 06-10-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Brodo Faggins

Yeah I read that somewhere. I was actually referring to someone a few pages ago who used that spelling.

Ah, a little "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?"

http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/...ndalfnames.htm

LOTR07 · 06-10-2011, 07:31 PM

Just waiting for my disks to arrive.....no need getting hypertension over something we can't control....if its screwed up we will be dissapointed and will have to send them back to get new ones after they are fixed and continue viewing EE's DVD.....simple....18 days..

....cant freakin wait......!!!

Romansh · 06-10-2011, 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

The only way it is reversible is a new disc, re-color timed. Period.

That's the best way, not the only way. It may be tricky (it's been a while since I played with my TV's color adjustment settings - not sure whether that'd be enough) and it'll definitely be annoying, but feasible (as demonstrated by e.g. that AVS forum thread). What I mean is that you don't need to go back to a studio source.

Whereas introducing real detail where there isn't is quite another matter. You can't just tweak the Blu-ray.

RYJAPE21 · 06-10-2011, 07:33 PM

Well I'm not going to start boiling over or shouting out complaints until we get some reviews. Green-tint or no I am still highly impressed by the level of detail in these new EE editions (far moreso over the TEs) and I have a feeling that WB will certainly impress us. I'm an optimist

Velmeran · 06-10-2011, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

Ah, a little "wink, wink, nudge, nudge, know what I mean?"

http://valarguild.org/varda/Tolkien/...ndalfnames.htm

Mithrandir is one of my favorite names for Gandalf.

(oh and Brodo was quoting someone who had it spelled Gandolph)

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

The only way it is reversible is a new disc, re-color timed. Period.

Really, so going by the complaints in this forum -- everything has an overall green tint/hue to it.

So why, if I manually adjust my TV to tone done Green hues, wouldn't that be a temporary solution?

vargo · 06-10-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

From what I understand about P2P file sharing, the original upload comes from one person, and then as people download from that first person, they begin to share with more and more people etc.

So we have one mystery person from anywhere on the planet, using mystery software to rip it from a mystery source, from an unknown region, onto a mystery pc.

Who's to say that the guy's computer monitor wasn't adjusted properly, and that he compensated by adjusting the color of the movie, just like some of the examples people have posted of "fixed" screenshots?

Possible but very unlikely.

These groups use remote encoding to speed up the process, and they release dozens of movies a week. It is all about speed so the last thing they are going to do is sit around writing an avisynth script to adjust the colours of a movie.

Duffy12 · 06-10-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by KrugerIndustrial

Where are all the slipcover nuts when they're needed?

Or how about the ones who do not like the TWO disks per movie?

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Strevlac · 06-10-2011, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Mithrandir is one of my favorite names for Gandalf.

(oh and Brodo was quoting someone who had it spelled Gandolph)

Really, so going by the complaints in this forum -- everything has an overall green tint/hue to it.

So why, if I manually adjust my TV to tone done Green hues, wouldn't that be a temporary solution?

Because you are not just toning down green hues, you are adjusting every other color as well.

Andrewtst · 06-10-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

It's not a scene release, therefore it's meaningless to me and inferior. The bit rate for one I found at 720p is at a measly 2000kbps and the file size is 4gb. The 1080p rip will probably look even worse.

I found two version, one is 720P, another is 1080P, both from same source and the source I get all is rip from BD and it often get release earlier than BD release date.

I do download few other title before and compare with actual BD, all is near BD quality, at least it won't altered the color tones.

I didn't try the LOTR EE as the file size is too big and I not interesting on download it, as another 2.5 weeks the BD will be release.

** Above bitrate|size is far enough for a HD quality MKV file.

Velmeran · 06-10-2011, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Strevlac

Because you are not just toning down green hues, you are adjusting every other color as well.

Yep, and in those "5 second fix" screenshots people have posted, the only thing really needed to be done is adjust the hue.

Not saying you won't screw something else up (as IMO evidence in those 5 second fix pics) but for those who can't stand the "green tint" it's a quick solution to a problem that may not even exist!.

RYJAPE21 · 06-10-2011, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

Or how about the ones who do not like the TWO disks per movie?

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42041 · 06-10-2011, 08:00 PM

Altering the hue will not fix this problem. You'd probably have to adjust per-channel RGB levels to not create more problems than you'd cause with coarse controls like that, and my TV doesn't have photoshop's filters.

mredman · 06-10-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by bookcase

People are sucking all the joy out of this release.

Only "some" those who would have complained about the most perfect release. And looking at these it is near damn perfect the detail and sharpness is astounding

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Duffy12

made... my... freakin... day

Grand Bob · 06-10-2011, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Velmeran

Would you have preferred Bladorthin instead of Gandalf? 'Cause that's what he was initially called.
Ahh, so glad Tolkien changed those names![/size]

Yes, it's a good thing he changed his mind. Bladorthin would be a good name for a spokesman for Depends.

threefiftyrocket · 06-10-2011, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Grand Bob

Yes, it's a good thing he changed his mind. Bladorthin would be a good name for a spokesman for Depends.

Sometimes your wisdom astounds me...

mredman · 06-10-2011, 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by frogmort

I don't understand the people on here telling everyone to shut up about this. The only reason that this forum exists, is to discuss The Lord of the Rings extended edition blu-ray. I am a very easy going person, and I'm not all that overly picky about most things, but I love these movies, as I'm sure most of you do too.

I think the detail in most of the screenshots is better than I ever expected, but the green tint is something I've never seen in these movies before, and it bothers me. Snow and clouds should be white, not green, I would think.

I didn't come in here armed for attack, and looking for something to complain about, I pretty much blindly assumed that this transfer would be awesome. If the green tint doesn't bother you, then that's great! I really wish it didn't bother me, but it does. All of you do actually see it though, don't you? I also realize that all of the complaining and moaning isn't going to change the transfers, but I do have an opinion of them.

Does anyone really know who posted these screenshots, and how true to the source they really are? I don't think so, and I really hope that the blu-rays are going to make us all very, very happy.

http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58226
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58228
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58250
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58223
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/58252

Well there is no green tint here at all.
And look at the paper and frodo's and gandalfs face the detail is impressive to say the least
The detail and sharpness is freaking amazing look at the trees and house on rivendell and the fight against sauron. Truly impressive. Never thought anything could look so detailed you can even see the small soldiers now

06-10-2011, 07:31 PM	#2025
LOTR07 Blu-ray Guru Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Delaware, USA Home Theater Gallery:50 Blu-ray collection:628 DVD collection:440 Blu-ray reviews: 16 Trading Score:6	Just waiting for my disks to arrive.....no need getting hypertension over something we can't control....if its screwed up we will be dissapointed and will have to send them back to get new ones after they are fixed and continue viewing EE's DVD.....simple....18 days......cant freakin wait......!!!

06-10-2011, 07:29 PM	#2023
rltilley Active Member Member since:Mar 2010 Location:San Diego, CA 4K collection:543 Blu-ray collection:2047 DVD collection:159	I'm gonna put a little faith in WB here. There is very little chance that after the storm that erupted after the Theatricals were released (DNR, double-dipping, greed, etc.) that they would release the Extendeds with serious color issues. I just can't imagine that level of stupidity or incompetence. The screen grabs do concern me but I'm not cancelling my pre-order. I hope I'm right.

06-10-2011, 07:33 PM	#2027
RYJAPE21 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Dec 2008 Location:Maryland 4K collection:248 Blu-ray collection:911 Blu-ray reviews:1	Well I'm not going to start boiling over or shouting out complaints until we get some reviews. Green-tint or no I am still highly impressed by the level of detail in these new EE editions (far moreso over the TEs) and I have a feeling that WB will certainly impress us. I'm an optimist

06-10-2011, 08:00 PM	#2035
42041 Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Oct 2008	Altering the hue will not fix this problem. You'd probably have to adjust per-channel RGB levels to not create more problems than you'd cause with coarse controls like that, and my TV doesn't have photoshop's filters.

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