Report: Blu-ray to Pass DVD in 2012

[Anthony P]

lol, I find it funny that people with nothing more then an ID on a forum think they know better because they don't need real numbers to analyse the situation. But the companies who's job is to do this and have the numbers to work with must be completely off their rockers.

[ZoetMB]

Originally Posted by Anthony P

lol, I find it funny that people with nothing more then an ID on a forum think they know better because they don't need real numbers to analyse the situation. But the companies who's job is to do this and have the numbers to work with must be completely off their rockers.

I complete agree that people who don't use numbers to analyze the market are expressing nothing more than personal opinion that isn't worth much because it's only based on emotion and perhaps a little anecdotal data ("My friends do this....", "I saw someone in the store...", "But I'm spending $XX...").

But many of the trade publications aren't much better. That's because journalism "ain't what it used to be". A lot of these trade journals now employ kids just out of school at almost minimum wage and they have no idea what they're doing. And there's also a built-in bias at trade publications because they don't want to alienate their advertisers. So they hype the format regardless of what the numbers show.

On one of the news items, I wrote a post where I expressed not a single opinion, but only quoted statistical facts on DVD/BR revenue and resulting calculations on year over year growth, etc. And people downrated my post. Why? Probably because they don't like facts that conflict with their emotional fanboy opinions.

As has been said many times, "you can have your opinions, but you can't have your own facts."

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

I complete agree that people who don't use numbers to analyze the market are expressing nothing more than personal opinion that isn't worth much because it's only based on emotion and perhaps a little anecdotal data ("My friends do this....", "I saw someone in the store...", "But I'm spending $XX...").

agree, especially since anecdotal information is coloured by what one wants to see.

But many of the trade publications aren't much better. That's because journalism "ain't what it used to be". A lot of these trade journals now employ kids just out of school at almost minimum wage and they have no idea what they're doing. And there's also a built-in bias at trade publications because they don't want to alienate their advertisers. So they hype the format regardless of what the numbers show.

agree in part, but this is not a publication nor blog we are talking about, this is what futuresource computed. Now if this was Chris Tribbey's opinion or if he is not saying the same as futuresource (let's face it, we see that all the time since fancy headlines draw people), I would agree with you

Also I disagree on trade publications and advertisers. True trade publications have to be more exact then none-trade publications, if they lose credibility they have nothing. So real trade publications (used by the trade) are at the top, then are aficionado publications (used by the connoisseur) then general publications followed by news publications and lastly blogs.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by ZoetMB

On one of the news items, I wrote a post where I expressed not a single opinion, but only quoted statistical facts on DVD/BR revenue and resulting calculations on year over year growth, etc. And people downrated my post. Why? Probably because they don't like facts that conflict with their emotional fanboy opinions.

Oh come on. This from the guy who said Blu-Ray was doing poorly because it was 29% down year over year on AVATAR WEEK.

Maybe people downrate your facts because you cherry pick them to show what you want? When Blu-Ray is doing great or has something good happen, not once have you chose that week to post facts. And people remember that kind of negativity. The fact that you do this causes even pure facts to be colored by opinion.