The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 140 - Blu-ray Forum

Penton-Man · 06-14-2011, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by EclipseSSD

This thread is becoming a frustrating battleground. I am actually at a loss at what to say really. I think both sides have a valid point in terms of whether it's actually worth getting, so I'd have to say it's up to us individually.

"Worth getting" is a subjective individual decision.
If the original screenshots which I saw someone posted pages and pages back are indeed accurate representations, there is another thing to consider -for this, as well as future remastered Blu-rays -

https://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-di...ml#post4842218

mixxed_up · 06-14-2011, 08:21 PM

If you look at the (full screen) video comparison and cover the TE with a piece of paper, you will see, the EE looks normal as well. Without the comparison it looks just amazing.

There's no issue. The issue is in our heads.

kpkelley · 06-14-2011, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Farid

Whoa wait! Did PJ supervise and approve the EE BD? Do we have a source on this?

As posted previously:

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Originally Posted by greg_achen

All right, so I contacted Bill Hunt from The Digital Bits and his source confirmed to him that Peter Jackson and Andrew Lesnie not only approved the transfer but dictated the new color timing. There will be further information in his review of the films in the coming week. In the mean time, read below his reply email:

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This is from a non-studio source directly involved in the films and the BDs: “Peter and Andrew [Lesnie - the cinematographer] were involved in all decisions regarding transfer and color timing on these new BDs. Any alterations and corrections were at their request.”

Not that that's going to satisfy anyone who doesn't LIKE the new color timing, but there it is. It was directly approved by the director and DP.

I throw in the towel. What's done is done and at this point there is no use in complaining if this is how Jackson wants it now.

threefiftyrocket · 06-14-2011, 08:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Penton-Man

"Worth getting" is a subjective individual decision.
If the original screenshots which I saw someone posted pages and pages back are indeed accurate representations, there is another thing to consider -for this, as well as future remastered Blu-rays -

https://forum.blu-ray.com/insider-di...ml#post4842218

That's a bit of shameless self promotion doncha think?

Just kiddin Penton, thanks for the link, a bit of a good read...

Ken Brown · 06-14-2011, 08:24 PM

It will also be interesting to hear from people who attend the AMC showing of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' extended edition this evening. I'm curious if its color timing is the same as that which reportedly graces the upcoming EE Blu-ray release.

threefiftyrocket · 06-14-2011, 08:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown

It would be interesting to hear from people who attend the AMC showing of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' extended edition this evening. I'm curious if its color timing is the same as that which reportedly graces the upcoming EE Blu-ray release.

what would be interesting is if you would get your frickin review done... I don't care if you haven't got your copy yet dangit!!! we need to know!!!

I wish I was going to see these

Ken Brown · 06-14-2011, 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by threefiftyrocket

what would be interesting is if you would get your frickin review done... I don't care if you haven't got your copy yet dangit!!! we need to know!!!

I wish I was going to see these

I've been anxiously listening for the doorbell for days now

Velmeran · 06-14-2011, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown

I've been anxiously listening for the doorbell for days now

Wait... so your not hanging out at the post office and/or the UPS/FedEx hub?

frogmort · 06-14-2011, 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown

I've been anxiously listening for the doorbell for days now

I am anxiously hoping your doorbell rings soon too.

kpkelley · 06-14-2011, 08:37 PM

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...he_rings_3_bd1

Only one which shows any change at all really is #4.

Dotpattern · 06-14-2011, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown

I've been anxiously listening for the doorbell for days now

I am tinted green with envy!

Roy Batty · 06-14-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by mixxed_up

If you look at the (full screen) video comparison and cover the TE with a piece of paper, you will see, the EE looks normal as well. Without the comparison it looks just amazing.

There's no issue. The issue is in our heads.

Yeah, but... why your emoticon looks so... green?

mixxed_up · 06-14-2011, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...he_rings_3_bd1

Only one which shows any change at all really is #4.

Small detail.

Lyle_JP · 06-14-2011, 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Post Prod

First off it's not GREEN it's CYAN.

and those that can't tell the difference between green and cyan, tend to be people I don't go to for judgments on color.

...and even then, caps only help in telling you what a screen cap looks like. You need to see the movie yourself, in motion. You know how they call them MOTION pictures.

There's too much green present to be a true cyan. This is more of a light Viridian/Spring Green/Sea Green. I agree it's not enough blue to rightly be called a teal. And while screen-caps aren't perfect and can't show you how noise and grain really look on a moving image, they show color perfectly. Seeing the colors in motion won't change them.

PRO-630HD · 06-14-2011, 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...he_rings_3_bd1

Only one which shows any change at all really is #4.

Agreed extremely unimpressive. I will wait for the remaster of the latter two films. Neither were near reference quality. The first film is going to greatly overshadow the last two from a detail perspective.

kpkelley · 06-14-2011, 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PRO-630HD

Agreed extremely unimpressive. I will wait for the remaster of the latter two films. Neither were near reference quality. The first film is going to greatly overshadow the last two from a detail perspective.

uh, disagree.

The latter two were pretty good the first time and none of those screencaps show any of the "composite" shots which suffered the most in the TE release.

The colors shifts apparently aren't as apparent in the latter two films as they are in the Fellowship comparisons.

Grand Bob · 06-14-2011, 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Ken Brown

I've been anxiously listening for the doorbell for days now

Same here, except I'm hoping it's Publisher's Clearinghouse.

Post Prod · 06-14-2011, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Lyle_JP

There's too much green present to be a true cyan. This is more of a light Viridian/Spring Green/Sea Green. I agree it's not enough blue to rightly be called a teal. And while screen-caps aren't perfect and can't show you how noise and grain really look on a moving image, they show color perfectly. Seeing the colors in motion won't change them.

Looks cyan over here, sorry. Sea-green is basically cyan anyways. Certainly closer to cyan than green. It's like me saying it's blue not magenta and you saying it's got too much cobalt to be blue.

kpkelley · 06-14-2011, 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Post Prod

Looks cyan over here, sorry. Sea-green is basically cyan anyways. Certainly closer to cyan than green. It's like me saying it's blue not magenta and you saying it's got too much cobalt to be blue.

Come on, we can all tell it's aqua.

[Show spoiler]

Post Prod · 06-14-2011, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by kpkelley

Come on, we can all tell it's aqua.

[Show spoiler]

perfect flamebait for a colorist

06-14-2011, 08:21 PM	#2782
mixxed_up Member Member since:Jun 2011 Location:Germany	If you look at the (full screen) video comparison and cover the TE with a piece of paper, you will see, the EE looks normal as well. Without the comparison it looks just amazing. There's no issue. The issue is in our heads. Last edited by mixxed_up; 06-14-2011 at 08:27 PM.

06-14-2011, 08:24 PM	#2785
Ken Brown Blu-ray Reviewer Top contributor Member since:Oct 2008 4K collection:- Blu-ray collection:- Trading Score:3	It will also be interesting to hear from people who attend the AMC showing of 'The Fellowship of the Ring' extended edition this evening. I'm curious if its color timing is the same as that which reportedly graces the upcoming EE Blu-ray release. Last edited by Ken Brown; 06-14-2011 at 08:28 PM.

06-14-2011, 08:37 PM	#2790
kpkelley Blu-ray Ninja Top contributor Member since:Aug 2007 Location:Framingham, MA 4K collection:385 Blu-ray collection:2478 Digital collection:113 Blu-ray reviews: 152	Return of the King Captures http://www.caps-a-holic.com/hd_vergl...he_rings_3_bd1 Only one which shows any change at all really is #4.

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