The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

So I guess what he said before the FotR EE presentation with the new master doesn't count.

I didn't see your edit. On the 28 I'll be able to tell you if the BD matches what I saw on the big screen. If it does, he gave his approval.

Memory is not as good as you think when it comes to A/V. Unless you could do a side by side with the theatrical version and your blu ray, your conclusions will be questionable at best. There is VERY little weight we could put into the type of comparison you speak of IMO.

[Red Pill 101]

Originally Posted by JLTucker

On the 28 I'll be able to tell you if the BD matches what I saw on the big screen. If it does, he gave his approval.

If I miss your response to this I may have to PM you

I'm trying to follow this the best I can. My job keeps getting in the way.

[Todd Smith]

Interesting comments by a fellow AVSer who apparently viewed the BD tonight.........

Saw this tonight on a 120 inch screen. It is ugly. Green green green. They are in the fricking Matrix. This is not what the films looked like. We compared this BD to a 35mm trailer. Yes, an actual 35mm trailer projected on the same screen.

Hollywood has gone insane with this teal and green garbage. It's like they HAVE to alter their work after the fact. Greedo didn't shoot first.

So no more DNR. No more filtering. But contrast boosted and so green that the snow isn't white and skies are no blue.

And for some reason, TTT and RotK do not suffer such revisionism.

Why oh why did the first film have to be the one they screwed up? My favorite of the three, easily. This is just depressing. The disappointments never end with Blu-Ray.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Interesting comments by a fellow AVSer who apparently viewed the BD tonight.........

Saw this tonight on a 120 inch screen. It is ugly. Green green green. They are in the fricking Matrix. This is not what the films looked like. We compared this BD to a 35mm trailer. Yes, an actual 35mm trailer projected on the same screen.

Hollywood has gone insane with this teal and green garbage. It's like they HAVE to alter their work after the fact. Greedo didn't shoot first.

So no more DNR. No more filtering. But contrast boosted and so green that the snow isn't white and skies are no blue.

And for some reason, TTT and RotK do not suffer such revisionism.

Why oh why did the first film have to be the one they screwed up? My favorite of the three, easily. This is just depressing. The disappointments never end with Blu-Ray.

There have been plenty of positive comments and it figures that you pick the most negative one to latch onto.

Here is my advice to you:

Don't buy the set. Just don't. At this point you know you no longer want it. The movie is ruined.

Seriously, just don't buy it.

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by merrick97

There have been plenty of positive comments and it figures that you pick the most negative one to latch onto.

Here is my advice to you:

Don't buy the set. Just don't. At this point you know you no longer want it. The movie is ruined.

Seriously, just don't buy it.

Just passing on info from another person who has actually watched the blu ray.......considering how little info we have from actual viewers of the disc at this point, I figured people who are not following that thread (at least some) would appreciate it. should we ONLY include the positive reviews/impressions? This only reinforces what many of us are seeing in these shots as well and some people will appreciate the info even if you dont.

I may or may not buy the blu ray.........I am undecided at this point.

[Sith]

I wonder what these may go for on Black Friday? I can wait for this box.

[frozenhamster]

Who the heck has a 35mm projector set up on a 120" screen?

[hidef al]

My local Fry's has it out early but wouldn't sell it to me.

BTW, it was $89.99

[Mandalorian]

This thread should get a poll for members to vote on whether or not they approve of the new color overlay that the Director and DP approved.

[radagast]

Originally Posted by wormraper

Bill Hunt has ALWAYS been biased..... lets put it that way... any of us who went through the format war saw that right off the bat

Just because Bill Hunt preferred the better format has nothing to do with the quality of his reviews or his ability to tell if the PQ of a release is good or not.

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by radagast

Just because Bill Hunt preferred the better format has nothing to do with the quality of his reviews or his ability to tell if the PQ of a release is good or not.

lets just say he was good at "twisting" the truth... I have a hard time trusting him anymore if it suits his "bias"

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by merrick97

There have been plenty of positive comments and it figures that you pick the most negative one to latch onto.

Here is my advice to you:

Don't buy the set. Just don't. At this point you know you no longer want it. The movie is ruined.

Seriously, just don't buy it.

No,

if there's a real and legitimate problem with the transfer, we should know about it and talk about it and let the studio know we care.

We can still buy the blu-ray even with problems, but that doesn't preclude wishing it had been better if a mistake has been made.

This isn't the last time these extended cuts will come to blu-ray disc, and so our feedback with this edition will affect Warner's work with the next release.

Had folks not been "picky" and complained about DNR in Patton, we never would have gotten a new release with a proper transfer for that (which is coming). Same with Gladiator. This isn't being picky, it's wanting films presented properly on blu-ray Disc.

The Wizard of Oz went through a similar color-shift with the previous DVD release where everything was "yellow". It was horrible, and Warner swore up and down that they had not altered the color and that it was historically correct. Then the blu-ray and most recent DVD edition were released and Warner had *fixed* the color problem that they said didn't exist on the previous release. Thank goodness folks had complained about the previous DVD when they did, because it caused Warner to not make the same mistake twice.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Interesting comments by a fellow AVSer who apparently viewed the BD tonight.........

Saw this tonight on a 120 inch screen. It is ugly. Green green green. They are in the fricking Matrix. This is not what the films looked like. We compared this BD to a 35mm trailer. Yes, an actual 35mm trailer projected on the same screen.

Hollywood has gone insane with this teal and green garbage. It's like they HAVE to alter their work after the fact. Greedo didn't shoot first.

So no more DNR. No more filtering. But contrast boosted and so green that the snow isn't white and skies are no blue.

And for some reason, TTT and RotK do not suffer such revisionism.

Why oh why did the first film have to be the one they screwed up? My favorite of the three, easily. This is just depressing. The disappointments never end with Blu-Ray.

People are still saying it's green. It's not. Green isn't blue or cyan. Also, how do you know this person has the BD set?

This will be the last post I make in the thread about the transfer until I see the BD myself. I will report how TTT and RotK look on the big screen, but I will not comment on the BDs until I get them. It's getting repetitive seeing post after post of the same content worded differently.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

No,

if there's a real and legitimate problem with the transfer, we should know about it and talk about it and let the studio know we care.

We can still buy the blu-ray even with problems, but that doesn't preclude wishing it had been better if a mistake has been made.

This isn't the last time these extended cuts will come to blu-ray disc, and so our feedback with this edition will affect Warner's work with the next release.

Had folks not been "picky" and complained about DNR in Patton, we never would have gotten a new release with a proper transfer for that (which is coming). Same with Gladiator. This isn't being picky, it's wanting films presented properly on blu-ray Disc.

I absolutely agree with you on this. Paramount said there was nothing wrong with Gladiator, yet they finally made a new version and it was glorious in comparison! I'm just hoping that they do an exchange if they do a different printing, instead of doing something sh*tty like Disney did with Gangs of New York and release it with a different cover and say, "Sorry, you suckers have to buy a new one!"

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by wormraper

lets just say he was good at "twisting" the truth... I have a hard time trusting him anymore if it suits his "bias"

Believing that 50 gigs is better than 30 gigs and that higher max/sustained bit-rate is better than lower bit-rate for difficult compression jobs and that the ability to better handle lossless audio is better than having to resort to lossy because of lack of headroom isn't "bias" in a negative sense unless you think it's bad to be "biased" to prefer higher quality transfers and audio reproduction.

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Interesting comments by a fellow AVSer who apparently viewed the BD tonight.........

Saw this tonight on a 120 inch screen. It is ugly. Green green green. They are in the fricking Matrix. This is not what the films looked like. We compared this BD to a 35mm trailer. Yes, an actual 35mm trailer projected on the same screen.

Hollywood has gone insane with this teal and green garbage. It's like they HAVE to alter their work after the fact. Greedo didn't shoot first.

So no more DNR. No more filtering. But contrast boosted and so green that the snow isn't white and skies are no blue.

And for some reason, TTT and RotK do not suffer such revisionism.

Why oh why did the first film have to be the one they screwed up? My favorite of the three, easily. This is just depressing. The disappointments never end with Blu-Ray.

can you post a link?

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by Todd Smith

Just passing on info from another person who has actually watched the blu ray.......considering how little info we have from actual viewers of the disc at this point, I figured people who are not following that thread (at least some) would appreciate it. should we ONLY include the positive reviews/impressions? This only reinforces what many of us are seeing in these shots as well and some people will appreciate the info even if you dont.

I may or may not buy the blu ray.........I am undecided at this point.

His view of it is completely wrong..... I've watched it back-to-back-to-back-to-back since getting it early less than a week ago. Everything is either orange, or red tinted, with a strobe effect for the first and final 30 minutes. I did find the new Justin Bieber musical score very out of place, but it could be me.

Originally Posted by JLTucker

People are still saying it's green. It's not. Green isn't blue or cyan. Also, how do you know this person has the BD set?

Are you suggesting the internet isn't an infallible source of information?

[wormraper]

Originally Posted by DaViD Boulet

Believing that 50 gigs is better than 30 gigs and that higher max/sustained bit-rate is better than lower bit-rate for difficult compression jobs and that the ability to better handle lossless audio is better than having to resort to lossy because of lack of headroom isn't "bias" in a negative sense unless you think it's bad to be "biased" to prefer higher quality transfers and audio reproduction.

*sigh, I'm not trying to start up the war again, lets just say that he was famous for throwing little fits and lying about the competition to everyone in retaliation. He was the Amir of the blu side. long story short, I don't trust him worth crap. end of story.

I gave up on him being a childish baby when hearing him at one of the blu/hd debates whine and cry like a little B***h because Toshiba wasn't providing him with a free player

[Archangel630]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

I absolutely agree with you on this. Paramount said there was nothing wrong with Gladiator, yet they finally made a new version and it was glorious in comparison! I'm just hoping that they do an exchange if they do a different printing, instead of doing something sh*tty like Disney did with Gangs of New York and release it with a different cover and say, "Sorry, you suckers have to buy a new one!"

I was one of those suckers who gave up on a free trade-in program and bought the 'new' release. If a 'new' version of Fellowship is made available I hope Warner doesn't play that bogus card as well.

[DaViD Boulet]

Originally Posted by frozenhamster

Who the heck has a 35mm projector set up on a 120" screen?

Serious videophile/cinephiles who can afford it. And we all benefit from enthusiasts like that who can do real film-to-video comparisions and care enough to take the time and post their impressions.