The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[threefiftyrocket]

Originally Posted by chip75

It was only the UK DVD (which came with the Triple Play or LE) that was affected (and a certain batch number at that), Warner Bros. were excellent about the situation, an email to let them know you had the faulty disc and a less than a week later the replacement turned up.

More info here.

I had my replacement Matrix Revolutions in less than a week when I bought that set, many say they had their replacement Blade Runner very quickly too! (I wouldn't know, my Blade Runner 5 disc set was the corrected one). Warner has been absolutely awesome with their replacement programs, when offered.

[nightcrawler]

It seems obvious to me that WB won't issue a statement until the actual release date (has passed). For starters it's too close to the street date to recall all copies from the shops/distributors. Notwithstanding the fact that actually getting relacements out will take a while - they still have to rectify the error first, then press new discs (assuming it is an technical error, which I believe it is).

So surely it'll be easier & cheaper for WB to just do a disc replacement program via the post. Remember that a lot of people won't even bother to send their discs in - which will save WB some money. They either won't realise there's an issue with the colour-grading, or simply won't be aware of a replacement program unless they read forums like this, and not everyone does. If WB made a statement now - before the release date - then most people would surely cancel their orders (those that haven't already) - which WB would surely not want.

I believe that if it is a technical error then WB will offer a DRP -after all it's a faulty product. They didn't on the TE's because it wasn't an error on their part, the DNR was intentional.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Karl Murks

The group that's most active at that are clearly the denialists.

I mean, the problem is there, that's an undeniable fact. Whether someone cares enough or not is another matter. However - and here's where it gets tricky - the ones who don't care about the change in color have nothing to lose by this debate, quite unlike those who do care and are bothered by it. We have to hope that some acknowledges the error that was made and issues a replacement. So why do you think, that things get heated if some people are doing their best to undermine such efforts, even though such actions do absolutely nothing for their own good?

You should take off the rose-tinted glasses and go re-read through the last dozen pages or so.

The group making the most noise and currently being the most personal in their 'responses' are those who both object to the color grade change (in general, on principle of a revision to the film) and feel the entire color grade in FotR is a mistake.

At this point claiming anything to be fact, without you yourself being Peter Jackson, Andrew Lesnie, an executive of Warner Brothers or a member of WB's legal department is anything but a fact.

Until we get an official statement as to the color grade in FotR everything is pure speculation and thus an opinion.

[DarthV]

Funny thing about the human brain and eye, they do color correction on their own. If you're a photographer, you'll know what I mean. Use fluro lights and have your camera light correction set to daylight... definitely won't look right, but to your eye when you take the photo, it seems normal.

Watching it live on the tv, I really didn't notice the tint that much at all. Looking at screen caps side by side really shows it off. And honestly, it's not a big deal while watching live. Won't stop me from buying the set!

[PGW]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

Until we get an official statement as to the color grade in FotR everything is pure speculation and thus an opinion.

That's true.

But regardless of ANYONE'S statements, the look of these blu-rays is STILL gonna suck. If you (or anyone else) LIKES the look of these things... well, it's also my opinion that you should invest in having your vision checked.

For God's sake... could they have picked an UGLIER color to tint these things with (well, yes, I guess Pepto Bismol pink... but I guess they're saving that for "The Hobbit" or something...).

Ugh. After this weekend, I never want to see teal again in my life.

[Jumpman]

So, since I haven't been following this thread at all, is the consensus with the Fellowship of the Ring (the only one I care about) that there's a technical error or director's preference?

Because I was seriously considering just buying this set and be done with it but if it's a technical error, then I'll just wait until the extended editions are released individually and get Fellowship that way.

Not to mention, iTunes has the extended editions on pre-order and I'm going to pre-order Fellowship extended just to have a copy of the film where it plays straight through. Stupid thing to do but I really, really want to have a copy of the film without the intermission. I'm just curious to how it plays without the break.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by PGW

That's true.

But regardless of ANYONE'S statements, the look of these blu-rays is STILL gonna suck. If you (or anyone else) LIKES the look of these things... well, it's also my opinion that you should invest in having your vision checked.

For God's sake... could they have picked an UGLIER color to tint these things with (well, yes, I guess Pepto Bismol pink... but I guess they're saving that for "The Hobbit" or something...).

Ugh. After this weekend, I never want to see teal again in my life.

Calm down, William Shatner.

[Blu-Benny]

looks like i s/h/b following this thread more closely.....the new set has problems as well??

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

So, since I haven't been following this thread at all, is the consensus with the Fellowship of the Ring (the only one I care about) that there's a technical error or director's preference?

We have no clue yet, everything is just opinions with nothing to completely back it up.

Sadly, I doubt we find out until after the 28th if it's director's choice or technical error.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by PGW

That's true.

But regardless of ANYONE'S statements, the look of these blu-rays is STILL gonna suck. If you (or anyone else) LIKES the look of these things... well, it's also my opinion that you should invest in having your vision checked.

For God's sake... could they have picked an UGLIER color to tint these things with (well, yes, I guess Pepto Bismol pink... but I guess they're saving that for "The Hobbit" or something...).

Ugh. After this weekend, I never want to see teal again in my life.

PGW, when you look at these screenshots (form Ken's Review) do you really think the entire film is going to suck.

Disclaimer: Not all of the pics in that screenshot are from FotR.

[Thunderhead]

Insert:>>>> Cell phones, social networks, video games and other such addictions must be altering human brain cells.
As a kid, when I saw "War Of The Worlds" in 1953 or "The Magnificent Seven" in 1960, or stumbled out of the theater after the trauma of "Jaws" the first time viewing.......My biggest dream was that someday I could own these films and watch them any time I wanted.
Today, the dream is here, I can see my favorite films in amazing Blu-ray with stunning HD sound.
But what's this......my fellow movie fans want to storm the homes of people who give us these movies and the ones who write about them and kill their first born because they (HEARD something was CHANGED on a disc they HAVE NOT SEEN).
I continue to be thrilled when an old favorite film is released on Blu-ray.
Some get their thrill from trashing them.

[Karl Murks]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

You should take off the rose-tinted glasses and go re-read through the last dozen pages or so.

The group making the most noise and currently being the most personal in their 'responses' are those who both object to the color grade change (in general, on principle of a revision to the film) and feel the entire color grade in FotR is a mistake.

And why do you think that's the case? Right. Because for us this is a serious defect.

Originally Posted by Velmeran

At this point claiming anything to be fact, without you yourself being Peter Jackson, Andrew Lesnie, an executive of Warner Brothers or a member of WB's legal department is anything but a fact.

It is a fact that this version of the film is heavily tinted green. Nothing more, nothing less. Do you want to deny that? Whether this was by accident or by intent is not relevant. The green is there in every single frame of the movie, even in the white title text.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

So, since I haven't been following this thread at all, is the consensus with the Fellowship of the Ring (the only one I care about) that there's a technical error or director's preference?

Because I was seriously considering just buying this set and be done with it but if it's a technical error, then I'll just wait until the extended editions are released individually and get Fellowship that way.

Not to mention, iTunes has the extended editions on pre-order and I'm going to pre-order Fellowship extended just to have a copy of the film where it plays straight through. Stupid thing to do but I really, really want to have a copy of the film without the intermission. I'm just curious to how it plays without the break.

Here is the truth:
Fellowship has been given a new color palette that gives the film a greenish tint. This was supposedly director approved.

However, certain people (who haven't even seen the disc themselves no less!!) believe that this was done in such an extreme way that it clearly must be an error and that there is no way that PJ could have approved of it.

However, MOST reviews that have actually seen the discs say that its not near as bad as the screenshots are making it out to be.

I can understand after reading this thread that you would be inclined to think
that Warner is sending out a defective disc because its the same damn people who have whining ALL weekend just won't shut up and wait for an official statement.

The reality is that this disc is likely what Peter Jackson intended. Could there have been a technical error? Sure, but if there is I am confident that a replacement disc will be made. I still say its unlikely that an error was made.

If PJ DOES come out and say the disc does look as he intended then you can expect those who are shouting now to keep shouting and swear that PJ was bought off by Warner Brothers.

IMO, if you love the films its a safe buy.

[PowellPressburger]

Anyone know if Best Buy will be doing an midnite store opens for the Release?

[Strevlac]

Originally Posted by Velmeran

The group making the most noise and currently being the most personal in their 'responses' are those who both object to the color grade change (in general, on principle of a revision to the film) and feel the entire color grade in FotR is a mistake.

This is clearly, clearly not the case. The people who are upset about the changes are making noise about the release. Several people who are not upset about the release are making noise about other members. How can people not see this? It's clear as day.

I mean c'mon, the examples are endless. Just now:

Originally Posted by merrick97

I can understand after reading this thread that you would be inclined to think that Warner is sending out a defective disc because its the same damn people who have whining ALL weekend just won't shut up and wait for an official statement.

I mean really, that is acceptable?

[Jumpman]

Thanks, merrick.

Honestly, I just think I'm going to hold off until the individual release of Fellowship Extended comes out.

Of them all, that's the one I truly love.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Karl Murks

And why do you think that's the case? Right. Because for us this is a serious defect.


It is a fact that this version of the film is heavily tinted green. Nothing more, nothing less. Do you want to deny that? Whether this was by accident or by intent is not relevant. The green is there in every single frame of the movie, even in the white title text.

In general, it can't be denied that there is an overall cyan/teal tint to the entire film, but the level of that tint is very subjective and in no way can it be a fact that it's heavily tinted.

How does one define Heavily green tinted? Heavily in this case is ambiguous. The impact of the green tint in truly in the eye of the beholder. Heavily can in no way be validated, and thus cannot be considered a fact.

I really suggest clicking the links and reading the definition of what a fact is, and what an opinion is.

Originally Posted by PowellPressburger

Anyone know if Best Buy will be doing an midnite store opens for the Release?

I know at least one store in my area is, but I think it'll probably be a pretty YMMV thing.

[MerrickG]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Thanks, merrick.

Honestly, I just think I'm going to hold off until the individual release of Fellowship Extended comes out.

Of them all, that's the one I truly love.

You may be waiting a long while, but do what you must.

I do agree that this IS an expensive set at $83 which contains old dvds packed in for extras.

I fully expect that when I actually SEE the video quality that I will be quite pleased and will just laugh at those who SWEAR this must be an error.

[Velmeran]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

This is clearly, clearly not the case. The people who are upset about the changes are making noise about the release. Several people who are not upset about the release are making noise about other members. How can people not see this? It's clear as day.

I mean c'mon, the examples are endless. Just now:

I mean really, that is acceptable?

Not really, there are much better and less inflammatory ways to pretty much say that same exact statement.


Though if that's what your going to consider an example I could go back the last 2 nights and find at least 10 examples (though a couple of them have since been deleted, by either mods or the posters themselves) which are far more personal and far more vicious.

[AreaUnderTheCurve]

Originally Posted by Strevlac

This is clearly, clearly not the case. The people who are upset about the changes are making noise about the release. Several people who are not upset about the release are making noise about other members. How can people not see this? It's clear as day.

I mean c'mon, the examples are endless. Just now:

I mean really, that is acceptable?

Absolutely. Why? Because the thread has turned into a cesspool overrun by the same posts being made over and over and over again. Want to take the thread in a new direction by talking about something else? It will be over shadowed by the current outrage. There's no way to placate it. This is why I suggested the moderators close the thread until the BDs are released, or at least until an official statement is made, if that ever happens.