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Old 06-22-2011, 05:13 AM   #4901
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PJ's intro was a lot longer this time. Boy, he looked tired.
I noticed it as well. But,. the man has been through a lot. I can't imagine the stress filming the trilogy had on him.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:16 AM   #4902
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Maybe WB already fixed the issue and quietly shipping the new pressing to retailers? Who knows maybe they realized this and started working on it just after they send the review discs?
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:17 AM   #4903
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The shot of Elrond RIGHT before it as well were blown out. Only negatives I saw though. Was a good night.
When I got home, I put in my theatrical cut Blu-ray to compare. Whoa, the difference was even greater than I thought! On the Blu-ray, she almost looks black and white. I remember her looking more colorful at the theater.
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Old 06-22-2011, 05:28 AM   #4904
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Just got back from the Theatrical Presentation of the extended Two Towers in SLC.

First of all... incredible!!

Secondly... Peter Jackson said in the intro that Two Towers & Return of the King HAVE been remastered for this release.

Lastly, however... I swear the last 20-25 minutes of the movie had a very strong discernible green tint to the picture. Haven't seen it in the theaters since it was first released back in 2002, so... maybe it's been there all along. One thing's for sure, it was definitely there tonight.

Just sayin' ...
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:12 AM   #4905
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So where is this UK guy, who said there is no green at all in his disc?
Of course he cannot make any screencaps, can he?
May be WB are really shipping a corrected version, or is this guy a WB's special agent?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:14 AM   #4906
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The green tint doesn't really bother me. To me it looked fine. The movies could be black and white for all I care, i'd still love them.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:20 AM   #4907
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The green tint doesn't really bother me. To me it looked fine. The movies could be black and white for all I care, i'd still love them.
Surely, we can swich off our tv's and enjoy a great sound, we would still love it, wouldn't we?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:22 AM   #4908
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Surely, we can swich off our tv's and enjoy a great sound, we would still love it, wouldn't we?

Yes.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:36 AM   #4909
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I noticed it as well. But,. the man has been through a lot. I can't imagine the stress filming the trilogy had on him.
Thinner though, right? In a good, healthy way? Fit?

Makes me feel bad about busting balls over this release. Dude has a lot on his plate right now, a ton. Puts things in perspective. F ucking genius, though.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:38 AM   #4910
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So I was looking at the comparison shots on the BluBrew review which is where this infamous cap comes from:



And I do think this shot and the snow ones look worse but just about all of the rest of the shots look better and not imposingly green and/or blue.
For example this shot from the theatrical version looks as oppressively orange as the above shot looks oppressively green:



And this time with the new color timing in the Extended Edition it is the one that looks far more natural and better:



So I think people are seeing a few shots that might not look as good and freaking out about them and cancelling pre-orders when as the BluBrew reviewer says "the good here greatly outweighs the bad."
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:43 AM   #4911
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Again, we're fine if the green tint selectively applied for artistic purpose, but it seems they just do it for the whole movie, hence the greenish titles, snow and sky.

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Old 06-22-2011, 06:46 AM   #4912
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For example this shot from the theatrical version looks as oppressively orange as the above shot looks oppressively green:
https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-mo...ml#post4855240

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So where is this UK guy, who said there is no green at all in his disc?
Of course he cannot make any screencaps, can he?
May be WB are really shipping a corrected version, or is this guy a WB's special agent?
Doubt it's shipping multiple versions. Doubt he's lying.

Some people just won't be as sensitive to it as others. Some will complain, some will wonder what the complaints are all about. Remember, so many people did not see the DNR in the TE presentation. It's unique to every pair of eyes.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:48 AM   #4913
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...And the scene in the beginning with Isildur definitely doesn't look warmer.
Well if you compare these shots, the new color grading gives his face a more "yellowish" tint, which makes it seem warmer to my eyes. This is one instance though where I don't really prefer one over the other.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:26 AM   #4914
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Then I will play it on my PC, where I can relatively easily dial out the green without screwing up the rest of the image. My deference to filmmaker intent doesn't stretch quite that far. Pulling up the brightness level a bit wouldn't hurt either, since it also seems pointlessly dim.
and in that case, will be very interested in your "recipe" for achieving a good balance (i use an htpc)
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:30 AM   #4915
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That scene with the hobbits with Bill looks like PJ changed the colors around to make it look like it takes place later in the day..

I'm glad they toned down the orange in Rivendell. I never realized it was so colorful.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:21 AM   #4916
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Also just got back. Theatre seemed even more full than last week. These films really do look great on the big screen again and being with a good crowd of people always helps as well. 2 down and one to go!

Oh yeah, and WBShop sent me an email about my EE set being shipped right before the movie started. Today was a good day

That is awesome that you are enjoying these movies at theater. Also awesome that your movies have shipped. If you get your Blu-ray set before next tuesday are you going to wait until after you see The Return of the King at the theater before you watch these on Blu-ray?
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:32 AM   #4917
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I knew there was supposed to be some type of green hue to the film when the scenes took place in the Matrix and the green was supposed to go away when the scenes were in the real world. Now I will have to go back and watch it to see if it is bad/noticeable. I don't mean to sound off-topic, but this all makes me wonder about what I see in the FOTR screencaps and what I would see on my TV. Thanks for the reply.
Scenes within the Matrix were not originally all green-tinted, and none were severely green-tinted. Not when the film screened theatrically, nor on the original DVD. They added the green push on the Special Edition DVD, and it's carried over to all subsequent iterations. It was done to make the first film look more like the sequels. It was every bit as revisionist as what's been done to Fellowship, but there was never this level of ranting about it.


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Also, the changes to The Matrix helped solidify the look with the later two films in the trilogy. FOTR's changes distance its look from the later two films in the trilogy.

It wasn't a change that I was up in arms about.
What if it turns out Jackson is trying to match Fellowship to his intended look for The Hobbit? Is it then acceptable to change the timing, or is it only acceptable if it's done to match a film to sequels, not prequels?
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:34 AM   #4918
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One of my favorite parts in the story of The Lord of the Rings is when Frodo comes to the city of Minas Morgul. I was not sure if this would be in the movie or not. I was very happy when I saw this in the movie. In the book this happens in The Two Towers and in the movie this happens in The Return of the King.
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Old 06-22-2011, 08:53 AM   #4919
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It was every bit as revisionist as what's been done to Fellowship, but there was never this level of ranting about it.

But they didn't alter the entire movie to look green and the reasoning was clear.

Here that's not the case. Each single shot is tinted green and no official comment yet.

Plus, LOTR is a lot more popular...
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Old 06-22-2011, 09:00 AM   #4920
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Scenes within the Matrix were not originally all green-tinted, and none were severely green-tinted. [...] They added the green push on the Special Edition DVD, and it's carried over to all subsequent iterations. [...] It was every bit as revisionist as what's been done to Fellowship, but there was never this level of ranting about it.
I really don't understand why there wasn't a bigger uproar. I was furious when I saw it. I only became aware of the change when I bought the Blu-ray. It looks just awful. I watched it with a friend that night, and she asked "why is Neo's hair green?"

The original version looked perfect for the story. It gave you the sense that something was not quite right, but it wasn't in your face about it. I only watched the Blu-ray once. I now always watch the DVD.

Why not recolor 2 and 3 to match the first movie?

To be clear, I wasn't upset because it was revisionism. I was upset because it looked terrible.

Perhaps this is some kind of Barrie Osborne curse.

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