The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Farid

Ugh, that green tint on Saruman is just disgusting to look at!

Thanks to Ken Brown! I wish the community had more vocal people like him in this matter. Unlike Bill Hunt who'd normally be writing column up and down about the green tint. Thanks Ken, you rock!

Just because he didn't see an issue doesn't mean he isn't vocal or that he's in cahoots with the studio. He was plenty vocal about Gladiator was he not? How easy we forget things. That's pretty messed up to question someone's integrity like that.

[punisher]

Originally Posted by mredman

But IF it is intentional which i think it is IMO. Why do you think they would alter the colors again just to make a small vocal bunch happy. Bottom line if it is intentional they will not alter the color again.
Because lets face it the majority of the people who buy this will not even notice this tint issue.

Would also makes me believe it is intentional is that the trailer they show at the official site for the blu ray set and theatrical release of the EE does also include this tint.

Yes in some scenes this tint in the screenshots do look bad especially the second breakfast scene. But if it was changed for intentional purpose who are we to judge. This is Peter Jackson's movies and he will do what he wants with these movies its his choice and if he thinks it needed more green tint. we can't do anything about it.

yes we can..***** and complain....but the best action is no action,meaning don't buy it period!

[Brightstar]

can someone tell me is the green tint only effecting FOTR ?

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

I sampled the fade to color off TE DVD, EE DVD and TE BD. All three fade to the same tint which averages to 240/224/218. Not all pixels have the exact same RGB values of course, but the variance is meaningless. This explains why your regrade has looked a bit "off" to my eyes. I'm afraid you need to start over

I suppose its lucky that its my eyes that matter then, not yours. I like my fade to whites white and my snow white. Feel free to regrade to that average tint if you wish though I must warn you, it'll take a while so make sure you're happy with having that tint throughout.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by joliefan

can someone tell me is the green tint only effecting FOTR ?

Yes because it was the only one that Peter Jackson remastered for this blu ray release

[Todd Smith]

Originally Posted by Farid

Ugh, that green tint on Saruman is just disgusting to look at!

Thanks to Ken Brown! I wish the community had more vocal people like him in this matter. Unlike Bill Hunt who'd normally be writing column up and down about the green tint. Thanks Ken, you rock!

Agreed!

Saruman the............green? What happened?

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by joliefan

can someone tell me is the green tint only effecting FOTR ?

From all the screencaps i've seen, the other two films have no consistant green tint running through them so you have nothing to worry about. They look great, both in terms of sharpness/detail and in terms of colour (both look very similar to their theatrical blu-ray counterparts colourwise).

[BleedingEdge]

Regarding the tinted titles and "fade to white" being discussed:

Generally, at least in my editing workflow, color grading is done on a rough edit, meaning before transitions and text overlays are added. In almost all digital editing workflows, a fade to white is just a disolve to white blank object (a single digitally generated white frame that can be stretched over any period of time). There have been circumstances when I've had to go back and regrade old materials, in which case either the original elements were no longer available or I just didn't have the time to re-edit the entire movie from the original elements. In those cases, I've just recolored a final edit. When that is done, things such as text (title) overlays, fades to white, cross disolves, additive disolves etc. inherit the color grading being done. You can't seperate blended video elements. It is entirely possible that what Jackson received to regrade was a post final edit render, that these titles, credits, and fades were all part of the image he was grading. Obviously, some parts of this film were rescanned and conformed to the DI, but I imagine the parts being examined were probably already rendered in some form or another.

To reiterate: I'm not saying that the green tint is supposed to be there. I'm just saying that the appearance of a "fade to green" is not somehow confirmation that an error was made. It only makes it a possibility.

[Romansh]

Originally Posted by kingkong650

I get where you're coming from. Here is how the fade to white looks on my regraded version:

TBH, this looks nothing like white on my display. More like somewhat light gray.

Now my display isn't calibrated; but even then it looks weird. It's still noticeably darker than the forums's text editor - or that the background of the quote box, for that matter.

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by Romansh

TBH, this looks nothing like white on my display. More like somewhat light gray.

Now my display isn't calibrated; but even then it looks weird. It's still noticeably darker than the forums's text editor - or that the background of the quote box, for that matter.

It's grey for me too.

[crazyBLUE]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

It's grey for me too.

I see the same gray as well

[Ispoke]

Originally Posted by kingkong650

From all the screencaps i've seen, the other two films have no consistant green tint running through them so you have nothing to worry about. They look great, both in terms of sharpness/detail and in terms of colour (both look very similar to their theatrical blu-ray counterparts colourwise).

Can you please confirm if your regrade is from the actual BD's or from the 720p blu-ray rip floating around? Just interested as you mention earlier that you started the process over a week ago when the Bd's would of not been avaialble.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by crazyBLUE

I see the same gray as well

yep grey here for me as well.
The theatrical blu ray release was pure white. Just seen it 3 days ago. and what i heard of the reviewers in the EE Blu rays its also white with a hint of dark white as said by Robert Harris and some other who have seen the discs themselves. Of what i heard

[Petri Teittinen]

Originally Posted by mredman

The theatrical blu ray release was pure white.

It was nowhere near pure white. Everyone needs to stop spreading inaccurate information and subjective interpretations. The measured RGB value of the fade to color was 240/224/218 which is a reddish tone. Pure white would be 255/255/255 on the 0-255 scale.

[amoergosum]

Originally Posted by Romansh

TBH, this looks nothing like white on my display. More like somewhat light gray.

It is grey...I guess it's grey because he didn't correct the underexposure during his regrade.

[mredman]

Originally Posted by Petri Teittinen

It was nowhere near pure white. Everyone needs to stop spreading inaccurate information and subjective interpretations. The measured RGB value of the fade to color was 240/224/218 which is a reddish tone. Pure white would be 255/255/255 on the 0-255 scale.

maybe you are right with the hint of red tone but it definitely looked very white

[PGW]

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

I think some of us need to cool off about the green tint stuff. I've been looking through the thread the last few days and its nothing but insults and screenshot comparisons. There's a whole universe to The Lord of the Rings, but the only things that people seem to find worth discussing is a shade of color.

The whole friggin' disc is tinted PUKE GREEN! It's UNWATCHABLE. So what DIFFERENCE does ANYTHING else make? Is it sharper? Sure! Who cares? IT'S PUKE GREEN!!!!

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by mredman

yep grey here for me as well.
The theatrical blu ray release was pure white. Just seen it 3 days ago. and what i heard of the reviewers in the EE Blu rays its also white with a hint of dark white as said by Robert Harris and some other who have seen the discs themselves. Of what i heard

No, i think it just looks like that because its not as bright as the theatrical blu-ray/fotr ee dvd. The extended edition fotr blu-ray is significantly darker than the previous versions that have been released. I actually boosted luminance and gamma slightly because of this.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

While we're on the subject, I've just checked a "fade to white" in the beginning of the remastered 'Gangs of New York' disc and it most definitely has a green tint. I suspected this earlier in the thread, but only now checked on it. I also suspect it's not just these two catalog titles. Which begs the question, why has it taken so long for somebody to pick up on this phenomenon?

[kingkong650]

Originally Posted by amoergosum

It is grey...I guess it's grey because he didn't correct the underexposure during his regrade.

Of course that occured to me but brightning it to theatrical blu-ray/hdtv levels detrimentaly affects a lot of scenes (makes them look far too bright IMHO) so I just brightened it a little. From what I can see, I think PJ/Andrew Lesnie had a good reason for making the transfer as dark as it is. I can't see any good reason for that constant green tint though.