The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003) - Page 444 - Blu-ray Forum

BleedingEdge · 07-04-2011, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by HeKS

That's an interesting analysis. Would you mind using that software to check my re-broken image of Aragorn on the mountain and see what you get?

HeKS

I'm sorry it's taking so long. I've got WAY too many projects on my plate at the moment. I'll do that with the latest samples as soon as I can.

Edit: This thread is rather unwieldy, and I'm having a hard time finding the split Aragorn shots. Perhaps they were deleted with the thread close. If you PM me links to the images (seperate files) I can put them through the scopes.

goodluckchuck · 07-04-2011, 01:26 PM

A few months back I would not have believed LOTR would have the same fate as Star Wars. I am even thinking Peter Jackson did this green thing on purpose to create the same controversy that Star Wars creates to this day with all the unnecessary changes. This is very sad because I still remember the first trailer I saw of LOTR in theaters, and how amazing the golden colors were on this film, it looked so special and different from others. To see people play with this things...

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-04-2011, 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by goodluckchuck

A few months back I would not have believed LOTR would have the same fate as Star Wars. I am even thinking Peter Jackson did this green thing on purpose to create the same controversy that Star Wars creates to this day with all the unnecessary changes. This is very sad because I still remember the first trailer I saw of LOTR in theaters, and how amazing the golden colors were on this film, it looked so special and different from others. To see people play with this things...

LOL! This is the best post in the entire thread.

amoergosum · 07-04-2011, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

LOL! This is the best post in the entire thread.

It's a funny one...I agree.

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-04-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by amoergosum

It's a funny one...I agree.

Why would Jackson want to alienate his fanbase as much as Lucas has? He is counting on them to see The Hobbit.

I watched the first disc of RotK last night and it is reference quality. It also looks more detailed than the TE Blu-ray, which is awesome.

PGW · 07-04-2011, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Jumpman

Honestly, I wouldn't have a single complaint at all with the new color timing, if it weren't for the subtitles. To me, that's the smoking gun. The subtitles have a green tint to them.

If they were pure white, as they use to me, I wouldn't complain one bit about the new color timing on the Fellowship EE.

Subtitles?! Do you mean the credits, by any chance?

WorkShed · 07-04-2011, 01:38 PM

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Originally Posted by PGW

Subtitles?! Do you mean the credits, by any chance?

I pretty sure Jumpman means the subtitles that run through the movie whenever someone speaks in Elvish.

goodluckchuck · 07-04-2011, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

Why would Jackson want to alienate his fanbase as much as Lucas has? He is counting on them to see The Hobbit.

I watched the first disc of RotK last night and it is reference quality. It also looks more detailed than the TE Blu-ray, which is awesome.

Isn't Mr Lucas counting on his fanbase to see his 3D conversions?

For some reason this directors dont want people to EVER have complete, definitive and untouched versions of their films, I think its so they can keep releasing them and filling people with hope one day they will do it right.

drichter33 · 07-04-2011, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by WorkShed

That is what I felt too. I had posted earlier that I didn't find FOTR to be as bad as I thought with some color tweaks on my TV (which I shouldn't have really had to do anyway for a single film), but when I saw Two Towers, I knew something was amiss. I truly recommend people watch the beginning of Two Towers right after watching Fellowship.

I'm glad to see civility return to this forum.

Me to on the FOTR tint. I still think there is too much hue / sharpness in the tint in the shire. but that happened on the DVD release I believe. It just seems too bright and my eyes cringe. Personally I dont believe I should have to adjust my tv because of how a BRD is made, so I just deal with it. Because aside from that, the clarity and colors elsewhere were stunning.

Eismagier · 07-04-2011, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by goodluckchuck

For some reason this directors dont want people to EVER have complete, definitive and untouched versions of their films, I think its so they can keep releasing them and filling people with hope one day they will do it right.

And who gets to decide what's "right", if not the people who originally made the movie?

AreaUnderTheCurve · 07-04-2011, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by goodluckchuck

Isn't Mr Lucas counting on his fanbase to see his 3D conversions?

They most likely won't last after TPM. Slashfilm has an article where the the producer is worried about them not performing well.

The problem is that you think Jackson is doing it purposefully, when no evidence suggests such a thing. He has always been excellent to his fans. That can't be said for Lucas to some people. I personally don't have a problem with Lucas because I like his revisions of the OT and I will never see the untouched versions.

Jumpman · 07-04-2011, 02:11 PM

WorkShed,

Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Again, when any one speaks Elvish in Fellowship, the subtitles have a slight green tint to them...in comparison to the Towers and King EE's subtitles where they're pure white.

Again, I like the new look of the Fellowship EE but I don't think Jackson wanted the subtitles to have green tint to them, considering the rest of the Trilogy doesn't.

goodluckchuck · 07-04-2011, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Eismagier

And who gets to decide what's "right", if not the people who originally made the movie?

Because they keep changing their mind on how it is supposed to look. The majority of us have memories. Its curious how they repeateadly only mess with FOTR on both releases. They want continuity in how things look, not acknowledging that the past in itself can be a beauty if properly regarded. I wonder what The Hobbit will look like at this rate.

They should release a regular version and a playground version.

goodluckchuck · 07-04-2011, 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by JLTucker

They most likely won't last after TPM. Slashfilm has an article where the the producer is worried about them not performing well.

The problem is that you think Jackson is doing it purposefully, when no evidence suggests such a thing. He has always been excellent to his fans. That can't be said for Lucas to some people. I personally don't have a problem with Lucas because I like his revisions of the OT and I will never see the untouched versions.

Yes, I feel they are somehow sabotaging the releases messing with FOTR in particular, two times. I think they know people would pick up such a change, and I dont know what is worse, if to change the actual events of a film like the SW Han shot, or if to mess with the memories we have of how the colors looked.

ScarredLungs · 07-04-2011, 02:22 PM

Obiviously this thread is full of people who wanted to see the Extended Editions of Lord of the Rings. It was what we waited for! Then, as of late, there has been much debating and arguing over the quality of FOTR. (I happen to love the new visual take on the movie). I keep seeing posts that people want to hear Peter Jackson thoughts on this and they want him to say it is what he envisioned or wanted. There in lies the irony ... I have heard it said ... "Peter Jackson mentions that the theatrical editions are his Directors Cut of the film and that is how they should be viewed."

Quote "While Jackson considers the theatrical releases of those three films to be a final "director's cut" within the constraints of theatrical exhibition, the extended cuts were produced so that fans of the material could see nearly all of the scenes shot for the script to develop more of J. R. R. Tolkien's world, but which were originally cut for running time, or other reasons. " No, the quoted text is black, with a slight green tint in case you were wondering

radagast · 07-04-2011, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Eismagier

And who gets to decide what's "right", if not the people who originally made the movie?

Do you have any idea how many times someone has already said this in this thread? Does anyone have anything new to say?

Obviously not.

Sagacious Koreo · 07-04-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by radagast

Do you have any idea how many times someone has already said this in this thread? Does anyone have anything new to say?

Obviously not.

I don't think anyone's had anything new to say in the last 447 pages.

goodluckchuck · 07-04-2011, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by sagacious koreo

i don't think anyone's had anything new to say in the last 447 pages.

I had a lot to say

nearjm · 07-04-2011, 02:37 PM

Wow--I hadn't even realized that the subtitles (translating Elvish) show the green tint, but it makes sense...and pretty clearly demonstrates what people have been saying, that a green overlay was (accidentally) placed over the entire film. Furthermore, I know from other postings that the captions for the hearing impaired show up as white, and look especially, glaringly white compared to the rest of the image. I wonder if there are closed captions that appear at the same time as the Elvish-translating subtitles...THAT would be interesting to compare.

Sagacious Koreo · 07-04-2011, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by goodluckchuck

I had a lot to say

Nothing new.

07-04-2011, 02:22 PM	#8875
ScarredLungs Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Utah 4K collection:65 Blu-ray collection:1433 Prime collection:1 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:4	Here is something funny..... Obiviously this thread is full of people who wanted to see the Extended Editions of Lord of the Rings. It was what we waited for! Then, as of late, there has been much debating and arguing over the quality of FOTR. (I happen to love the new visual take on the movie). I keep seeing posts that people want to hear Peter Jackson thoughts on this and they want him to say it is what he envisioned or wanted. There in lies the irony ... I have heard it said ... "Peter Jackson mentions that the theatrical editions are his Directors Cut of the film and that is how they should be viewed." Quote "While Jackson considers the theatrical releases of those three films to be a final "director's cut" within the constraints of theatrical exhibition, the extended cuts were produced so that fans of the material could see nearly all of the scenes shot for the script to develop more of J. R. R. Tolkien's world, but which were originally cut for running time, or other reasons. " No, the quoted text is black, with a slight green tint in case you were wondering

07-04-2011, 01:26 PM	#8862
goodluckchuck Active Member Member since:Jan 2009 Blu-ray collection:15	A few months back I would not have believed LOTR would have the same fate as Star Wars. I am even thinking Peter Jackson did this green thing on purpose to create the same controversy that Star Wars creates to this day with all the unnecessary changes. This is very sad because I still remember the first trailer I saw of LOTR in theaters, and how amazing the golden colors were on this film, it looked so special and different from others. To see people play with this things...

07-04-2011, 02:11 PM	#8872
Jumpman Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Nov 2008 Location:Durham, NC 4K collection:55 Blu-ray collection:110 DVD collection:7 Digital collection:230 iTunes collection:1783 Blu-ray reviews:8 Trading Score:39	WorkShed, Yeah. That's what I'm talking about. Again, when any one speaks Elvish in Fellowship, the subtitles have a slight green tint to them...in comparison to the Towers and King EE's subtitles where they're pure white. Again, I like the new look of the Fellowship EE but I don't think Jackson wanted the subtitles to have green tint to them, considering the rest of the Trilogy doesn't.

07-04-2011, 02:37 PM	#8879
nearjm Member Member since:Jul 2011 Trading Score:2	Wow--I hadn't even realized that the subtitles (translating Elvish) show the green tint, but it makes sense...and pretty clearly demonstrates what people have been saying, that a green overlay was (accidentally) placed over the entire film. Furthermore, I know from other postings that the captions for the hearing impaired show up as white, and look especially, glaringly white compared to the rest of the image. I wonder if there are closed captions that appear at the same time as the Elvish-translating subtitles...THAT would be interesting to compare.

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