Archived: Ask the Insiders: Judgment Day Edition

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by kjack

Would anyone happen to have the graphics that showed the marketshare of all the HD DVD and BD player manufacturers?

This is somewhat rhetorical, but can you believe that Toshiba pulled that out as if it made them look good? They should have been hiding it from anybody who understands that this was the standalone market where splitting at anything even close to 50-50 between HD DVD and Blu-ray would be bad news for Toshiba (since it doesn't include the PS3), included their $99 sale as well as their 10 and 12 free disc deals, and that Toshiba having pretty much the whole HD DVD share was a failing on their part.

If that was the best chart Toshiba could come up with to try to make themselves look good, I wonder how bad the other charts they had at their disposal would have made them look.

--Darin

[Seretur]

Ookie, they're not going to go out without some kind of a fight -- but right now, it seems like the issue is more one of hurt egos on both sides, with Java (in Microsoft's case) and possible massive hardware returns in the 1-month post-Christmas window (in Toshiba's) being the additional reasons.

Although I'd definitely like to know more about the retailer commitment to HD DVD, whatever that may be.

[zipbags]

A month!?! Seriously, unless these studios are stuck in contracts that even prevent them from discussing it. I think waiting a month is a diservice to consumers and retailers. I am really surprised that retailers would be willing to stick with this. Hopefully, this delay is all talk and we will hear something sooner.

Unreal.

[Balian]

Having heard the terms of Universal's contract with Toshiba, Paramount is simply trying squeeze the best deal it can get from the BDA. They are going on the assumption that Universal won't make a decision until their contract with Toshiba ends at the end of January.

What the BDA should do is negotiate with Universal and a get similar time frame deal with Warner. In other words, Universal could sign a contract right now and announce this to the world. However, their Blu-ray exclusivity won't be effective until the end of January ...just like Warner exclusivity won't be effective until the end of May.

When Universal falls in line, Paramount will have no choice in the matter but to opt out of their contract with Toshiba.

In the end, the BDA only has to pay one of the studios ...not both. Use this fact to expedite the negotiation process. The BDA still has all the leverage. I am sure they are using it.

[JohnAlden]

It's like A tag team wrestling betwen Toshiba and Mircosoft vs.Paramount and
Universal. The blu-ray members are beting on Paramount and Universal to win.By days end it is the Wrestlers who gets paid who ever which side wins, all my bets are on blu-ray side.

[blindcat87]

While I think Toshiba is going to be stupid about this, I don't think MS is going to do anything to help them other than to not do anything else to hurt them. Go back to the Digital Bits, there has been another update and it involves more quotes from MS, including Gates himself trumpeting downloads to USA Today. Also included is a quote from someone at MS that the success of HD DVD was not vital to the success of the 360.

Given Toshiba's confident statements about their studio support pre WB announcement, and their obvious ability for dwelling in the land of denial, I wouldn't put too much in their confident stements about retailler support.

Chris

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

I still think that Toshiba and MS are going to make one more attempt at something really stupid in the near future.
The MS backpeddle :

and also Bill Hunt's rather rapid (though minor) back peddle :

are not helping.
Toshiba seriously should be sued all to hell if they keep dragging this thing out.

[thebluemax]

Insiders.......................................... .................??

The bad retail situation has to be rectified i.e. I could not find "Man on Fire" at any retail outlet in the Detroit area! How can one sell BD'S if BB, Circuit City, Target etc. does not order them to sell?

This bad retail situation is the reason I buy all my BD'S from Amazon

[TheRealBob]

Originally Posted by Iceman

Your attachment space has been increased 100x, let us know if you run out

Blu-ray Discs: Low attachment rate.

Blu-ray.com: Low attachment space

(Sorry, it was just too obvious to pass up. I'll duck now.)

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by OokieSpookie

Toshiba seriously should be sued all to hell if they keep dragging this thing out.

Not to worry.
I’ll sic Maya on them as she’s hungry since she hasn’t eaten all week.

[L or S of Perfect?]

Penton-Man, if WildeZc (the logo designer) approves, do you think you could pass these designs or provide contact information on who he can get in touch with to submit these designs?


https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=30919&page=8

[Jeff®]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Not to worry.
I’ll sic Maya on them as she’s hungry since she hasn’t eaten all week.

[LeoneFan]

Well, I feel bad I couldn't join in on the festivities with the rest of you after the Warner anounement since I was given a nice vacation from the forums by the mods. (I guess I deserved it )

Anyways, I would like to thank the BDA and the insiders for coming through where it really matters and securing Warner. I could barely sleep over the weekend from all the excitement following the Warner anounement. Here's to a Blu year!!

[doctorD]

A question to the insiders

How soon do you think it will take all retailers to start making shelf changes with all of the happenings from Warner going Blu to announcements from CES?

I ask this because today I was in a local Best Buy that added a 3rd bay of shelving for Blu ray titles literally over night (I was in this store yesterday and it was setup 2 Blus vs 2 HD DVD shelving. Now it is 3 Blus vs 2 HD DVD. I have also noticed Best Buy commercials only mentioning Blu ray players with no mention of HD DVD players.

Thanks in advance for your replies!

[JasonS]

Originally Posted by stockstar1138

im a little confused by the latest rumors.

earler it sounded like paramount could go blu any day now, now im hearing that it could be upwards to a month? when did this happen and who said it could take a month now (somebody with cred is what im asking)?

Bill Hunt at The Digital Bits posted that today. He said his sources are convinced Paramount and Universal will go Blu, the announcement *could* be a day, a week, or months before they officially swapped sides.

[Dotpattern]

Originally Posted by LeoneFan

Well, I feel bad I couldn't join in on the festivities with the rest of you after the Warner anounement since I was given a nice vacation from the forums by the mods. (I guess I deserved it )

Anyways, I would like to thank the BDA and the insiders for coming through where it really matters and securing Warner. I could barely sleep over the weekend from all the excitement following the Warner anounement. Here's to a Blu year!!

Yeah, honestly, you needed to calm down. But welcome back.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Jeff®

Beautiful.
Quite creative.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by LeoneFan

Well, I feel bad I couldn't join in on the festivities with the rest of you after the Warner anounement since I was given a nice vacation from the forums by the mods. (I guess I deserved it )

Anyways, I would like to thank the BDA and the insiders for coming through where it really matters and securing Warner. I could barely sleep over the weekend from all the excitement following the Warner anounement. Here's to a Blu year!!

I think that you owe everyone here, (esp. the Insider's that post and those that lurk), a big apology for your past indiscretions.

[Penton-Man]

This is what Brian Williams is taking home (after the ad, of course)………………
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3032619/#22576057

^
The above is a plug for Sony Electronics; therefore I expect to see some Sony water bottles for my mountain bike in the mail a.s.a.p.

P.S.
The gadget to close out the NBC National News was not thought of as “impractical” by my wife…………. but rather cute.

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

I think that you owe everyone here, (esp. the Insider's that post and those that lurk), a big apology for your past indiscretions.

Yeah you kinda busted balls...

Just sayin'

[WriteSimply]

paidgeek, SPHE didn't announce the release slate for Q1 & 2 of 2008. Any earth-shattering plans on that front?


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