Blu-ray discs with UltraViolet technology!

[Underworld54]

Originally Posted by csdot

its lame but who cares? why avoid the disc altogether? just dont use the feature...

Not everyone has their player connected to the internet and they shouldn't be forced to either.

[csdot]

Originally Posted by Underworld54

Not everyone has their player connected to the internet and they shouldn't be forced to either.

nobodys forcing anyone to do anything...
it doesnt say that you have use Ultraviolet to play the disc. im sure when you put it in you can opt to not make a Ultraviolet account and just watch the movie.

[HyperRealist]

Originally Posted by csdot

nobodys forcing anyone to do anything...
it doesnt say that you have use Ultraviolet to play the disc. im sure when you put it in you can opt to not make a Ultraviolet account and just watch the movie.

Sure sounds like you are forced to me.

To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key — and if you’re not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won’t start.

[csdot]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

Sure sounds like you are forced to me.

if you chose to use Ultraviolet those things are true, it never says that one MUST register with Ultraviolet to watch the disc.

[HyperRealist]

Originally Posted by csdot

if you chose to use Ultraviolet those things are true, it never says that one MUST register with Ultraviolet to watch the disc.

To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key — and if you’re not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won’t start.

[csdot]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

To play UV Blu-ray and DVD discs, you need to access your digital library to download your license key — and if you’re not connected to the internet, the TV show or movie simply won’t start.

yes, IF YOU USE ULTRAVIOLET. show me where it says you HAVE TO USE ULTRAVIOLET. read what im saying for gods sake.

[UUUUGGGGHHHH]

Originally Posted by csdot

yes, IF YOU USE ULTRAVIOLET. show me where it says you HAVE TO USE ULTRAVIOLET. read what im saying for gods sake.

The article is calling them A UV BLU-RAY OR DVD DISC! Meaning any disc that has that technology on it!

[madlost1]

Originally Posted by csdot

yes, IF YOU USE ULTRAVIOLET. show me where it says you HAVE TO USE ULTRAVIOLET. read what im saying for gods sake.

Where it says to play the disc you have to connect and get a key to play the disc. The disc itself will be DRM protected and you will not be able to unlock the disc to watch it without first being connected to the internet and getting an unlock key.

[UUUUGGGGHHHH]

Originally Posted by csdot

if you chose to use Ultraviolet those things are true, it never says that one MUST register with Ultraviolet to watch the disc.

Your reading comprehension skills are TERRIBLE.

[hawaii sun]

My first train of thought here was the UV would be available on-line and won't affect the physical media itself. With this article it seems that it's actually imbedded on the disc and will be rendered useless unless you register on-line. So why buy the physical media?

[Uniquely]

Originally Posted by UUUUGGGGHHHH

Your reading comprehension skills are TERRIBLE.

No, his reading comprehension is fine. The article says that when you first put in a UV disc you will be ASKED to create a UV account. It does not say you MUST create a UV account. IF you create the account, you will have access to all of the extra benefits AND you will have to be connected from then on out to watch that disc. If you do NOT create the account, you will not get any of the extra benefits, but you will also NOT have to be connected to the internet to watch it.

[Bishop_99]

It would have been ridiculous if UV Blu-ray discs would require a person to be connected to the net just to view the movie. Since it's not, I'm sure UV will be a good feature to those that what to use it. I personally have no interest in using a glorified digital copy, especially since it's not even in HD.

[Dynamo of Eternia]

Originally Posted by robinandtami

No, his reading comprehension is fine. The article says that when you first put in a UV disc you will be ASKED to create a UV account. It does not say you MUST create a UV account. IF you create the account, you will have access to all of the extra benefits AND you will have to be connected from then on out to watch that disc. If you do NOT create the account, you will not get any of the extra benefits, but you will also NOT have to be connected to the internet to watch it.

I'm pretty sure that article has been completely debunked at this point as being completely wrong, and you don't need to log online at all just to watch the disc, regardless of whether or not you create a UV account.


And what you are suggesting here makes no sense at all. The disc wouldn't work one way before signing up for UV and then work a different way afterwards. The only way this could work with current technology (and even then it's still questionable) is if it was all or nothing.... either you HAVE to sign up for UV just to watch the disc at all ever, or you can always watch the disc, itself, whenever you want, regardless of whether or not you signed up for a UV account.

What you are suggesting would pretty much be impossible. In order for this change to occur... for the disc to go from "play the disc anytime you want w" and suddenly become a "you HAVE to sign in to watch the disc after you create a UV account", that means the data on the disc, itself, would have to be altered in some way after accessing the internet. The disc would have to go from being able to play anytime like any other BD or DVD to working more like a disc-based digital copy, in which when you put the disc into your player, it would just go to some screen requiring a password/account sign-in to play. But that would mean that the data on the disc has changed in some way. But how would that happen? Standard pressed movies that we buy in stores do not come on BD-Rs (let alone BD-RWs) or any other kind of changable/rewritable media. And most Blu-Ray players out there aren't recorders. So even if the disc were some kind of BD-RW, or some hypathetical new type of BD disc on which data can somehow be rewritten, it would still require a player with the ability to rewrite that information once the disc is taken online and a UV account is set up.

I doubt that this would be able to work by downloading data to the player, itself (which is the only other way I could see it working if it does not work by changing the data on the actual disc), to prevent you from just watching the BD disc upon associating it with a UV account. For one thing, that data would have to be compatible with ALL internet-capable Blu-Ray players out there. Somehow I doubt that would be possible. And what happens each time you get a new disc? Would it have to store more data for each disc you buy. Some players don't have THAT much storage space, so once you emass a big collection of discs with this UV feature/option, that could fill up quickly. And even IF player compatibility and data space weren't issues at all, the BIG loophole here would be that it would really only prevent the disc from playing offline on the player you initially access the UV data on (and any other players that may have been used for the same purpose). Any time you put that disc into a different player, it would still work offline if the disc data itself doesn't change. So, that wouldn't work or make any sense to even bother making such a restriction in the first place.

So, the idea that the disc starts out as being playable in pretty much any BD player with no restrictions to suddenly being unplayable without going online after it is assigned to a UV account is just absurd.

[dancinde]

Yeah, I'm fine if I don't have to connect to the internet when I try to watch a movie. My current player can't connect and although I plan to upgrade my player to a PS3, it doesn't seem fair. Also, discs often have a lengthy load time, should we be adding things to possibly slow them down more?

[HyperRealist]

Will you be able to sell or trade your UV discs? The license key is connected to your account so probably not.

[Mr. Cinema]

That article is wrong from what I've read. You don't HAVE to use the UV system. If you buy a BD that contains a UV file, you can still watch the BD just like any other, without an internet connection. That sounds like a huge amount of BS.

I don't see how UV is a bad thing. If you buy a BD that contains a UV file, you can put that UV version on up to 12 DEVICES. That's great portability. And you still have the BD to use whenever you want.

From the UV website:

Shared, Controlled Access

Your UltraViolet account can include up to six people you define as your household. You may have kids away at school, or other relatives living with you or elsewhere. As long as they’re registered as your Household Account members, they can access your UltraViolet collection.

Household Harmony

Imagine the calm and convenience that will prevail when your UltraViolet account lets you access all your shows and movies from any of up to 12 registered UltraViolet devices, and also via streaming to other devices. No more fighting over the main TV when Dad wants to watch football at the same time the kids want to watch cartoons! Generally, if it has Internet access and a screen, it can stream content from your UltraViolet collection. If it’s an UltraViolet device, it can download copies to play without remaining network connected.

If something happens to your UV file, you can redownload it for free from your UV acct, or stream it.

[madlost1]

Ok before everyone starts boycotting releases lets wait and see how this thing turns out to work. The second article I found says it's only to watch the UV file which means it will be an option and not required. If it is required to have internet access to watch the disc then I will start boycotting these titles and either buying from overseas or not at all. Again lets let cooler heads prevail here and see what happens when the first of these sics comes out in Green Lantern. Until then we can speculate all we want but we will just have to see what happens.

[sukraj]

This sounds so lame.

[amason]

I didn't read the entire thread on this but I did read the article that was post. So if you look up Green Lantern, there is one with Blu-ray + DVD + Digital Copy + UV Copy. So to me that's a Blu-ray disc and a disc for UV. It doesn't look like your forced to activate using the internet for the Blu-ray disc because its listing the UV as a seperate item. Just thought I would point that out if no one else has and if someone did, sorry.

[Canada]

I love the year of my birth "1984" but I hate "Big Brother" and this is exactly what it sounds like.