Star Wars: The Complete Saga (1977-2005) - Page 53 - Blu-ray Forum

Vashetti · 08-31-2011, 03:14 PM

Vader's "Nooo" is great in ROTJ.

Don't see the problem at all. Tantrum-ing over nothing.

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Vashetti

Vader's "Nooo" is great in ROTJ.

Don't see the problem at all. Tantrum-ing over nothing.

I don't think anyone has really tantrumed over the changes in this thread, all thats going on in the US thread. It's pretty mellow in here

Vashetti · 08-31-2011, 03:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

I don't think anyone has really tantrumed over the changes in this thread, all thats going on in the US thread. It's pretty mellow in here

That's true.

Some real crazies over there

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 03:25 PM

For easy refrence to the original for anyone whos intrested. Skip to 1:25

The new audio does sound really odd

Maybe it only sounds good in DTS-HD MA 6.1 surround sound?

insomniac013 · 08-31-2011, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Foggy

I wish they'd just understand that the films are a product of their time, adding CGI makes it look worse. About almost all films understand this, they don't need updating, people understand that films from 30 years ago are going to look like films from 30 years ago, if you want to modernise them, just remake them, plain and simple. Don't alter the old films half-assedly.

I for one would love a Star Wars reboot, not made by Jorge Lucas of course! Besides, anything's better than a 3D re-release of the prequels, amiright?

Also why did he make the door to Jabba's palace so giant? I mean, i know he's a big worm guy and all, but why THAT big? Unless they make the rest of his place giant too it's going to look really weird...

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by insomniac013

I for one would love a Star Wars reboot, not made by Jorge Lucas of course! Besides, anything's better than a 3D re-release of the prequels, amiright?

Also why did he make the door to Jabba's palace so giant? I mean, i know he's a big worm guy and all, but why THAT big? Unless they make the rest of his place giant too it's going to look really weird...

Because the bigger the better right?

Tech-UK · 08-31-2011, 03:36 PM

I don't know if this has been posted but the price for the The Original Trilogy is now £28.64 on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Blu-ray/dp/B003AQCAZE?SubscriptionId=0AKK26D74VRPDADHKP02&tag =bluraycom-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creative ASIN=B003AQCAZE&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

adamhopelies · 08-31-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

I agree, I laugh each time I see that scene now

I can see why GL wanted the No! in there as it dovetails the scene from Sith. But it sounds terible.

I don't mind it. It also nicely connects Luke's assertion of "No" from Empire too.

insomniac013 · 08-31-2011, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Because the bigger the better right?

I like subtlety, but i guess Jorge doesn't share my love for the little things... Then again he did make the prequels, so it really shouldn't surprise anyone. Practically everything in those movies were big and bombastic!

EDIT: Oh no i'm in Rant-mode again, i'm so sorry...

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by adamhopelies

I don't mind it. It also nicely connects Luke's assertion of "No" from Empire too.

Theres a "No!" in every film except Clones now I think. Nope, it's there, the Saga is now complete

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Originally Posted by insomniac013

I like subtlety, but i guess Jorge doesn't share my love for the little things... Then again he did make the prequels, so it really shouldn't surprise anyone. Practically everything in those movies were big and bombastic!

EDIT: Oh no i'm in Rant-mode again, i'm so sorry...

Haha. I liked the sequals when I saw them in the cinema, and before I really started following the US thread and made aware of things I'd never noticed in the Prequals thanks to the Red Letter Media reviews, which I must say are EPIC and all kinds of funny

nelly_platinum · 08-31-2011, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Skip to 3:28 to see the original scene

Return of the Jedi (Original) HD Part 1 - YouTube

Star Wars Blu-ray: Jabba's Door - YouTube

thanks mav

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by nelly_platinum

thanks mav

No probs

insomniac013 · 08-31-2011, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Mavrick

Haha. I liked the sequals when I saw them in the cinema, and before I really started following the US thread and made aware of things I'd never noticed in the Prequals thanks to the Red Letter Media reviews, which I must say are EPIC and all kinds of funny

Oh yes, the Plinkett reviews! They are very very funny and informative! Before i watched those i used to think "Yeah, the prequels are fine, i like them" but now, after realizing everything they've done wrong and messed up... Yeah i don't like them now, I wish they were done differently and not by Lucas! The man, even though he created it, does not get Star Wars.

OT: i'm really looking forward to Redlettermedia's Indy 4 review because that's another movie that i kind of liked when i saw it but apparently everybody else hates. Should be interesting

tanujdua · 08-31-2011, 04:37 PM

I don't mind any of the changes, I barely remember the films as they were.

insomniac013 · 08-31-2011, 04:51 PM

I care about all these changes because i remember watching these movies all the time when i was a kid on VHS. T'was the original cuts of course, so those are the ones i remember most fondly... Years later i bought the so called "Limited Editions" of the OT on DVD (on top of owning the great 2004 set!) mainly because they included the theatrical cuts! Transfers are in terrible condition of course (Lucas does not give a s**t about them obviously) and it's not much better than watching a worn-down VHS tape, but at least it's included and i don't need a VHS/Laserdisc to watch them.

BRING THE REMASTERED ORIGINAL CUTS TO BLU RAY!

Anth1888 · 08-31-2011, 04:53 PM

Oh. My. God.

Just seen the Noooo! from ROTJ and Lucas has just killed one of the most iconic scenes in SW. I loved the fact that we see Vader looking at his Master and Son and we know exactly what he's thinking without him even saying anything! The first No sounds as if he's answering a question. The scene was perfect

The rest of the staff at LucasFilm must have been

The Noooo! at the end of ROTS completely kills that scene too!

chip75 · 08-31-2011, 04:53 PM

I really don't know what to think about the changes. I guess deep down I knew there would be soom. Some are unnoticeable and go by in the blink of an eye like the Ewok eyes and Jabba's front door (I guess that must be the Rancor's entrance). But the others seem almost bizarre.

Obi-Wan's scream has always bugs me, I never understood why he didn't ignite his lightsaber and frighten the Sandpeople away, I'm sure the legend of the Jedi that came into their camp and murdered half a tribe is still told by those superstitious people. I guess Lucas wanted to wait until later to reveal is lightsaber but the Cantina was the best place for it not Obi-Wan's hut.

The 'No!' makes no sense at all now, it's almost like he wants to detract from David Prowse's performance with that awful bellowing. Vader was almost a silent movie villain in the first place he never needed reams of dialogue and that wasn't a moment that needed any at all. It was all in Prowse's performance. He looked at his son and he looked at the Emperor, he made his mind up and went for it. We can see the emotions buried deep underneath the levels of machinery. It never needed changes. It was perfect.

Mavrick · 08-31-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Anth1888

Oh. My. God.

Just seen the Noooo! from ROTJ and Lucas has just killed one of the most iconic scenes in SW. I loved the fact that we see Vader looking at his Master and Son and we know exactly what he's thinking without him even saying anything! The first No sounds as if he's answering a question. The scene was perfect

The rest of the staff at LucasFilm must have been

The Noooo! at the end of ROTS completely kills that scene too!

But the No! makes the saga complete! There's a No! in every one now!

[Show spoiler]

Anth1888 · 08-31-2011, 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by chip75

The 'No!' makes no sense at all now, it's almost like he wants to detract from David Prowse's performance with that awful bellowing. Vader was almost a silent movie villain in the first place he never needed reams of dialogue and that wasn't a moment that needed any at all. It was all in Prowse's performance. He looked at his son and he looked at the Emperor, he made his mind up and went for it. We can see the emotions buried deep underneath the levels of machinery. It never needed changes. It was perfect.

Completely agree. The other 2004 changes didn't bother me, even Hayden at the end of ROTJ. But the Nooo! Its just bizarre, what the bloody hell was he thinking!

nightcrawler · 08-31-2011, 05:24 PM

Hopefully this time next week HMV should have despatched my complete saga set

08-31-2011, 03:14 PM	#1041
Vashetti Special Member Top contributor Member since:Nov 2010 Location:Wales, United Kingdom 4K collection:132 Blu-ray collection:281 DVD collection:33 Trading Score:10	Vader's "Nooo" is great in ROTJ. Don't see the problem at all. Tantrum-ing over nothing.

08-31-2011, 03:36 PM	#1047
Tech-UK Blu-ray Ninja Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Sep 2010 Location:UK Home Theater Gallery:96 4K collection:216 Blu-ray collection:1170 Blu-ray reviews: 20 Trading Score:23	I don't know if this has been posted but the price for the The Original Trilogy is now £28.64 on Amazon. http://www.amazon.co.uk/Star-Wars-Original-Trilogy-Blu-ray/dp/B003AQCAZE?SubscriptionId=0AKK26D74VRPDADHKP02&tag =bluraycom-21&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creative ASIN=B003AQCAZE&m=A3P5ROKL5A1OLE

08-31-2011, 04:37 PM	#1054
tanujdua Expert Member Member since:Jan 2011 Location:Nottingham/Oxford, UK Blu-ray collection:177 DVD collection:131	I don't mind any of the changes, I barely remember the films as they were.

08-31-2011, 04:51 PM	#1055
insomniac013 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Gravity Falls Blu-ray reviews:1 Trading Score:1	I care about all these changes because i remember watching these movies all the time when i was a kid on VHS. T'was the original cuts of course, so those are the ones i remember most fondly... Years later i bought the so called "Limited Editions" of the OT on DVD (on top of owning the great 2004 set!) mainly because they included the theatrical cuts! Transfers are in terrible condition of course (Lucas does not give a s**t about them obviously) and it's not much better than watching a worn-down VHS tape, but at least it's included and i don't need a VHS/Laserdisc to watch them. BRING THE REMASTERED ORIGINAL CUTS TO BLU RAY!

08-31-2011, 04:53 PM	#1056
Anth1888 Active Member Member since:Feb 2010 Location:Glasgow, Scotland	Oh. My. God. Just seen the Noooo! from ROTJ and Lucas has just killed one of the most iconic scenes in SW. I loved the fact that we see Vader looking at his Master and Son and we know exactly what he's thinking without him even saying anything! The first No sounds as if he's answering a question. The scene was perfect The rest of the staff at LucasFilm must have been The Noooo! at the end of ROTS completely kills that scene too!

08-31-2011, 04:53 PM	#1057
chip75 Blu-ray Grand Duke Top contributor Member since:Oct 2010 Location:Wales 4K collection:304 Blu-ray collection:3102 DVD collection:1783 iTunes collection:231 Trading Score:9	I really don't know what to think about the changes. I guess deep down I knew there would be soom. Some are unnoticeable and go by in the blink of an eye like the Ewok eyes and Jabba's front door (I guess that must be the Rancor's entrance). But the others seem almost bizarre. Obi-Wan's scream has always bugs me, I never understood why he didn't ignite his lightsaber and frighten the Sandpeople away, I'm sure the legend of the Jedi that came into their camp and murdered half a tribe is still told by those superstitious people. I guess Lucas wanted to wait until later to reveal is lightsaber but the Cantina was the best place for it not Obi-Wan's hut. The 'No!' makes no sense at all now, it's almost like he wants to detract from David Prowse's performance with that awful bellowing. Vader was almost a silent movie villain in the first place he never needed reams of dialogue and that wasn't a moment that needed any at all. It was all in Prowse's performance. He looked at his son and he looked at the Emperor, he made his mind up and went for it. We can see the emotions buried deep underneath the levels of machinery. It never needed changes. It was perfect.

08-31-2011, 05:24 PM	#1060
nightcrawler Special Member Member since:Oct 2009 Location:London, UK	Hopefully this time next week HMV should have despatched my complete saga set

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