Does anyone leave their Blu-rays SEALED?

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by nmycon

OMG NOOOO!

Obsolete video formats will never become collectible.

Well, maybe some people will collect the "old tech" of today in 10 years or so, but no one is going to be paying big bucks for 1080p video once 4K video hits.

The only reason records are worth more is because they actually sound better than CDs. 8 tracks, cassettes sound worse and while people do collect them, they aren't paying more than $2-3 for a single cassette

Same with VHS, VCD... Laserdiscs are worth a bit more because of how close the quality comes to DVD and the uncompressed audio...

I agree that there's no point investing a fortune in blurays 1080p but what would you say when 4k hits mainstream? Don't build a collection because 8k is coming soon. I see 4k really being big either late next year or late 2013, since lg has there 4k rolling out this year. I won't stop buying blurays 1080p, I'll just get new release 4k

[hk3cx]

Originally Posted by nickmate

i agree that there's no point investing a fortune in blurays 1080p but what would you say when 4k hits mainstream? Don't build a collection because 8k is coming soon. I see 4k really being big either late next year or late 2013, since lg has there 4k rolling out this year. I won't stop buying blurays 1080p, i'll just get new release 4k:d

so your saying in the near future you can watch old movies like the exorcist in 4k and see better pq

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by hk3cx

so your saying in the near future you can watch old movies like the exorcist in 4k and see better pq

There are only certain films where 4k and 8k will benefit them. Most classic films shot in film have no max resolution, only held back by the quality of the technology and encoding. I can see films like Taxi Driver and Apocalypse now looking amazing in 4k, while films such as Step Brothers and older Disney films won't be as good. The excorcist if I remember was shot in 35mm film so 4k would benefit it in a way only technology can provide.
With 4k tvs hitting the homes this year and mid next year and becoming mainstream around 2013-2014, I don't see 1080p going for a while.

[hk3cx]

Originally Posted by nickmate

There are only certain films where 4k and 8k will benefit them. Most classic films shot in film have no max resolution, only held back by the quality of the technology and encoding. I can see films like Taxi Driver and Apocalypse now looking amazing in 4k, while films such as Step Brothers and older Disney films won't be as good. The excorcist if I remember was shot in 35mm film so 4k would benefit it in a way only technology can provide.
With 4k tvs hitting the homes this year and mid next year and becoming mainstream around 2013-2014, I don't see 1080p going for a while.

as i am only into collecting horror movies especially old ones would 4k benfet any of them also would it be on a blu ray type disk?

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by hk3cx

as i am only into collecting horror movies especially old ones would 4k benfet any of them also would it be on a blu ray type disk?

Bluray at the moment for consumer has a storage space of 128gb. Sony will be releasing a 500gb in 2012 so yes, bluray is here to stay for a while, it will just get bigger and bigger. And no, I don't say what about hologram disks, they rant for distribution media. Soon, films will be over the air and no longer be physical media.

[hk3cx]

Originally Posted by nickmate

Bluray at the moment for consumer has a storage space of 128gb. Sony will be releasing a 500gb in 2012 so yes, bluray is here to stay for a while, it will just get bigger and bigger. And no, I don't say what about hologram disks, they rant for distribution media. Soon, films will be over the air and no longer be physical media.

i really cant see my favourite movies like texas chainsaw massacre and friday the the 13th looking any better from 4k

[Andrewtst]

Nope, I immediate unsealed it once received.

I buy movie for watch, not for putting there collect dusk, or resell.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Does anyone leave their Blu-rays sealed?


More concisely... does anyone buy Blu-rays solely as physical decorative pieces for their living environment?

[MovieFanatic2010]

I open my Blu rays while i am in line paying for them........why.....because i'm a crazy person.

[cyniclaus]

Originally Posted by nickmate

I agree that there's no point investing a fortune in blurays 1080p but what would you say when 4k hits mainstream? Don't build a collection because 8k is coming soon. I see 4k really being big either late next year or late 2013, since lg has there 4k rolling out this year. I won't stop buying blurays 1080p, I'll just get new release 4k

Wow, what an optimist! BDs have been out since 2006 and we still have problems getting decent transfers/remasters of many films. We still haven't transitioned from DVD (95% of U.S. households own a DVD player but Blu-ray is still around 20%...half of which are PS3s). The related problem is display technology since people have just upgraded to flat screen, 720/1080p sets. Most the people I know, even film lovers, have trouble seeing the difference between upscaled DVD and BD on their 42-47" screens. Studios are not going to waste money on expensive 4k masters in the near future just to try and sell them to 2% of the population. At best, we may see a format aimed at the HT crowd that will have very limited penetration much like Laser Disc did, but even that is likely years away, especially in this economy and the risk-adverse environment that comes with it.

Consider that it took 9 years from the introduction of DVD Video for BD Video to be released.

Finally, bear in mind that VOD/streaming is growing at a rate that exceeds BD penetration and it represents a strong trend away from physical media that will certainly not prevent affordable 4k from making its way to HT, but will inevitably delay it if only from the impact on BD sales that will make studios leery of investing in next-gen platforms.

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by cyniclaus

Wow, what an optimist! BDs have been out since 2006 and we still have problems getting decent transfers/remasters of many films. We still haven't transitioned from DVD (95% of U.S. households own a DVD player but Blu-ray is still around 20%...half of which are PS3s). The related problem is display technology since people have just upgraded to flat screen, 720/1080p sets. Most the people I know, even film lovers, have trouble seeing the difference between upscaled DVD and BD on their 42-47" screens. Studios are not going to waste money on expensive 4k masters in the near future just to try and sell them to 2% of the population. At best, we may see a format aimed at the HT crowd that will have very limited penetration much like Laser Disc did, but even that is likely years away, especially in this economy and the risk-adverse environment that comes with it.

Consider that it took 9 years from the introduction of DVD Video for BD Video to be released.

Finally, bear in mind that VOD/streaming is growing at a rate that exceeds BD penetration and it represents a strong trend away from physical media that will certainly not prevent affordable 4k from making its way to HT, but will inevitably delay it if only from the impact on BD sales that will make studios leery of investing in next-gen platforms.

I agree on your point about on demand services such as VOD. currently, as I am aware,VOD provides 1080p video with surround which is apparently very nice, but not bluray quality which I believe in 2-3 years will become the standard for physical media. Say VOD allows videos to be downloaded and streamed with 30mbps video and DTS-hd audio, the us internet infrastructure, in it's present stage cannot handle the bandwidth. First off all, the film would take up 15-20gb to stream, which for some people would take a few hours or so but for others take way too long. And if the country did turn to virtual media, think how cooked the bandwidth on all cable lines would be.
So in order for virtual media to replace physical media, the government or cable companies would need to seriously up the bandwidth and speed and also allow large amounts of data per month (do you guys have true unlimited).
This is just my two cent though

[El_Jay]

Originally Posted by nickmate

I agree that there's no point investing a fortune in blurays 1080p but what would you say when 4k hits mainstream? Don't build a collection because 8k is coming soon. I see 4k really being big either late next year or late 2013, since lg has there 4k rolling out this year. I won't stop buying blurays 1080p, I'll just get new release 4k

Just the thought of 4K makes me angry. Backlisting 150 Blu-rays will not be fun at all.

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by El_Jay

Just the thought of 4K makes me angry. Backlisting 150 Blu-rays will not be fun at all.

150! By the time it comes out when it does, I would have maybe 1000.! It would crazy, but...we went through this between DVD and bluray. We said what's the point, picture won't be better....but it was!

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by nickmate

150! By the time it comes out when it does, I would have maybe 1000.! It would crazy, but...we went through this between DVD and bluray. We said what's the point, picture won't be better....but it was!

There have to be 4K displays first and those probably won't hit the market until around 2017-2020.

[HyperRealist]

4k is for the $30,000 projector crowd.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by HyperRealist

4k is for the $30,000 projector crowd.

That would be the people here that have more than 2000 BDs right now.

[Blu-Benny]

only movies that are still sealed.....which i have 2 right now maybe.....are left that way when i don't get to watch them right away.

[NickMate]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

There have to be 4K displays first and those probably won't hit the market until around 2017-2020.

Well if Toshiba and LG will be releasing a 4k tv this year and next, no don't others will follow soon after with even better technology. But your right it, might be like 2015 until they really hit the household.

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by nickmate

Well if Toshiba and LG will be releasing a 4k tv this year and next, no don't others will follow soon after with even better technology. But your right it, might be like 2015 until they really hit the household.

And at reasonable prices. I've never paid more than $800 for an HD display and I like it that way.

[Scooter1836]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

And at reasonable prices. I've never paid more than $800 for an HD display and I like it that way.

You need to remember it took a few years for a plasma to get under 10 grand.

Now it may not be the same, but the point being. How long will it take to be affordable