81:19 Nielsen/VideoScan Weekly Sales Numbers

[cakefoo]

85:15 = 5.7:1

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[Papi4baby]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Not necesseraly. Math does'nt work that way. If more movies were sold during the 2nd week then the 1st week, then the YTD numbers will be more then 75% for Blu-Ray... and the reverse is also true. It depends on the volume for both individual weeks. You cannot simply add the percentages and divide by 2.

Love the sig =)

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

Not necesseraly. Math does'nt work that way. If more movies were sold during the 2nd week then the 1st week, then the YTD numbers will be more then 75% for Blu-Ray... and the reverse is also true. It depends on the volume for both individual weeks. You cannot simply add the percentages and divide by 2.

Excellent post, and I like your sig, but I prefer Pulp Muppets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvJwUFI_es

[blindcat87]

Yeah, but stay away from that red toast. It tastes really nasty. Plus, I am suspicious of any form of toast that is supposed to improve with boiling.

Gotta say I am surprised. I certainly expected a definite win, but I also expected HD DVD deals and desperate attempts to shore up the numbers by a certain element of the red community to at least keep them above 30% or at least 25% What that proves is that, while they may be loud and obnoxious, that segment of HD DVD fans are not actually all that numerous.

Chris

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Hey Crack, nice to see you're over here as well.

HD-DVD is toast...

I prefer peanut butter on my toast.

Logan

[richard lichtenfelt]

I predicted 81 to 19 and thought that maybe I was being overly optimistic.

85 to 15 is even more lopsided than I predicted, and constitutes an absolute pummeling.

[darinp2]

Originally Posted by cakefoo

85:15 = 5.7:1

Discuss

Yep. 65:35 to 85:15 looks like a big change, but 1.86:1 to 5.67:1 really shows how big the ratio got. I don't think people should expect this every week since Blu-ray had the BOGO for the 2nd week (HD DVD had it the first for super saver shipping), but still nice to see.

Is this the biggest number yet for Blu-ray? I thought Casino Royale week last March was probably the biggest before, but seems like that was low 80s.

Also, I believe the rule is that the number above 50 gets truncated (this keeps it from ever getting to 100:0 if the lower one sold anything). So, 85:15 is really anywhere from 85.00:15.00 to basically 85.99:14.01 (if going to 2 digits after the decimal point). So, 5.67:1 all the way up to 6.14:1 is the possible ratio for 85:15.

Because of the Amazon sale and 3:10 to Yuma, I think there is a good chance that the YTD will be a little over 75:25 for Blu-ray.

--Darin

[darkpoet25]

I still can't believe that Graffeo keeps touting how the Toshiba players are getting cheaper spurring the sales. That crack he's smoking must be some premium stuff. According to him they will announce new titles including American Gangster soon. That may be the only major title they will have too.

[blindcat87]

What has me really curious is, considering that the WB announcement had this effect here in the US, where Blu was pretty consistently in the over 60% and under 75% range, what will the effect be in other parts of the world where BD had a much larger lead already? Because of the larger numbers, I expect that the shift won't be quite as dramatic, but I am still curious to see the outcome.

Chris

Originally Posted by cakefoo

85:15 = 5.7:1

Discuss

[Shin-Ra]

Originally Posted by Shin-Ra

Next week 10 Blu-ray's in the top 10?

The product announcements come in a week when the top 10 high-definition disc sellers are all Blu-ray Disc releases, according to an analysis of Nielsen VideoScan First Alert sales numbers by Home Media Magazine's market research department.

Net HD DVD sales, according to Nielsen, constituted only 15% of hi-def disc sales last week. And the top HD DVD seller, "The Kingdom," sold just 10% as many copies as the top Blu-ray Disc release, "3:10 to Yuma."

Love it.

[blueblood]

This is for the week of CES, meanig the 9th. We had alot of things going for us, BOGOS, Amazon HP delay, WB exclu. and others. I hope these are the correct #s, but lets wait to see the real #s before we clown DUD. And the price cuts for DUD players were this week, so it probably will go down a bit next week. Lovin the #s though!!!!!!!!!!!!

[jadedeath]

Originally Posted by blindcat87

Yeah, but stay away from that red toast. It tastes really nasty. Plus, I am suspicious of any form of toast that is supposed to improve with boiling.

I'm suspicious of anything that improves with boiling...

Damn dirty EGGS!

Gotta say I am surprised. I certainly expected a definite win, but I also expected HD DVD deals and desperate attempts to shore up the numbers by a certain element of the red community to at least keep them above 30% or at least 25% What that proves is that, while they may be loud and obnoxious, that segment of HD DVD fans are not actually all that numerous.

Chris

Or, since there are less titles on HD-DVD as opposed to Blu-Ray maybe they just ran out of titles to buy.

I was expecting a win, but I was also expecting maybe 6 months before we'd start getting numbers like this.

Logan

[Joon]

I want to see how Paramount and Universal are going to look over this weeks numbers. A good week for HD DVD now will be a 75:25 in favor of BD from here on out.

[LynxFX]

Originally Posted by unreal1080p

85:15 is a great win but you know the Duders are going to argue some kind of lunacy to spin this in their favor.

[HD DVD Spin]With all those PS3's, BD should have done better.[/HD DVD Spin]

Universal should be looking at these numbers very closely.

The Kingdom
Released sept 07
Box Office, $47m

3:10 to Yuma
Released sept 07
Box Office, $53m

Kingdom HD DVD sales are already at 10% of new release, Yuma. Watch how well Yuma sells over the same 3 week period.

[Fozziwig]

Originally Posted by Fozziwig

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So, all things considered we should be seeing a massive boost to Blu-ray movie sales and a market share of 80% is quite likely. But if it's in the high 70's I won't be too sad.

85% for Blu-ray? That makes me happy.



Can't wait for the details. BTW I don't believe this is a freak result. I expect to see 80+ from now on. Until Universal & P/DW cave in to the inevitable and the ratio goes into the 90's!

[Uxi]

[HD DVD Spin]With all those PS3's, BD should have done better.[/HD DVD Spin]

[/QUOTE]

Heh, I do expect to see that BS but will laugh even louder when I do.

[BillCable]

The article stated these are the "First Alert" numbers, which don't always exactly match the final numbers. They're the same numbers Paramount used to estimate their bogus Transformers totals.

[cakefoo]

Originally Posted by BillCable

The article stated these are the "First Alert" numbers, which don't always exactly match the final numbers. They're the same numbers Paramount used to estimate their bogus Transformers totals.

Well aren't the First Alert numbers the same Dave Vaughn gets his predictions from? and he's never been wrong, that I'm aware of

[dakota81]

We all declared HD DVD dead. 15% is not dead. Thus this week is clearly a victory for the red side.

Side note, I went back to the last HMM to make sure all my dates were correct. Anyways, anyone catch Disney's ad that says "Disney Continues To Dominate The Preschool Category"? Someone bragging about dominating preschool made me laugh.

[Fozziwig]

Originally Posted by BillCable

The article stated these are the "First Alert" numbers, which don't always exactly match the final numbers. They're the same numbers Paramount used to estimate their bogus Transformers totals.

Even with final numbers the ratio will not change.

Let's say First Alert takes numbers from 60% of Nielsen retailers. That's such a massive sample that the market share will not change when the other 40% deliver their reports. In fact Nielsen did not adjust any of their First Alert market share numbers when they reported monthly shares throughout 2007.

What does change is the volume. But studios will know what stores are reporting in First Alert and can estimate the volume for the total market (including the part of the market Nielsen do not report). This is why we saw studios touting numbers for '300', 'Transformers', 'Spider-man 3' etc.

Granted the Transformers number was way out. Who knows what magic counter they used to come up with that number.

[unreal1080p]

Originally Posted by jadedeath

Excellent post, and I like your sig, but I prefer Pulp Muppets. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSvJwUFI_es

Originally Posted by Papi4baby

Love the sig =)

Thanks guys

I allready have my next sig all figured out for when HD DUD "officialy" kicks the bucket

Think along the lines of that demotivational placque Mr. Burns gave Homer when he begged for his Job back at the Nuclear Power Plant after having quit earlier and used Mr. Burns's head as a bongo

P.S. It's time to put those Lame "HD DUD" Ducks out of their misery: