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Old 09-25-2011, 08:36 PM   #1
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Are you sure? The screencaps don't look stretched and IMDb says it is 1.85.
I saw it in the theater at 1.85 as well. It may very well have been shot 1.66, but was intended to be matted when shown.
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Old 09-26-2011, 08:07 AM   #2
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I saw it in the theater at 1.85 as well. It may very well have been shot 1.66, but was intended to be matted when shown.
It was shot in full frame, I believe. The difference between 1.66:1 and 1.78:1 wouldn't have been so big, if they had just matted it properly for the Blu-ray.
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Old 09-26-2011, 10:07 AM   #3
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Weir might prefer 1.66:1 and it might've been shown that way in Europe and some other places, but it was surely 1.85:1 in most if not all North American cinemas -- most of them can't handle 1.66:1, so Weir would've had to at least protect for that ratio. That said, I'd say it still belongs on the list, since Paramount botched the transfer.

As for 1.85:1 films altered to 1.78:1, I'll save everyone some time: every 1.85:1 film released by Warner Bros. is opened up to 1.78:1. This was true in the DVD era and it's true now. If they've ever released a disc at 1.85:1, it's a fluke, probably something like 1 out of 100.
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:42 PM   #4
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Despite what it says on the packaging, Twin Dragons is 2.35:1. A user review on this very site confirms this: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Super...7/#UserReviews

I also just popped in my Supercop/Twin Dragons disc and TD is indeed 2.35:1. I even chapter skipped through the whole movie and the AR never changes that I can tell.

There are probably very few, if any, theaters in the US that can show 1.66:1. Truman Show played in 1.85:1. 1.66:1 was probably the camera negative ratio. Therefore both ratios are correct: one presents it as filmed and the other as screened in theaters.
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Old 09-26-2011, 04:53 PM   #5
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Despite what it says on the packaging, Twin Dragons is 2.35:1. A user review on this very site confirms this: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Super...7/#UserReviews

I also just popped in my Supercop/Twin Dragons disc and TD is indeed 2.35:1. I even chapter skipped through the whole movie and the AR never changes that I can tell.

There are probably very few, if any, theaters in the US that can show 1.66:1. Truman Show played in 1.85:1. 1.66:1 was probably the camera negative ratio. Therefore both ratios are correct: one presents it as filmed and the other as screened in theaters.
I took those two off. I suppose I'll leave The Truman Show in the list even though the difference in 1.66:1/1.85:1 to 1.78:1 is negligible.
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Old 09-26-2011, 05:14 PM   #6
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I took those two off. I suppose I'll leave The Truman Show in the list even though the difference in 1.66:1/1.85:1 to 1.78:1 is negligible.
I suppose the reason you pulled Supercop off was because of that particular version of it, but the Echo Bridge version of Supercop is chopped. (Per the original poster's indication about it.) You should add it back to the list.

Oh and thanks for the list, I'll have to watch for some of these. (It doesn't bother me much 1.78 vs 1.85 (maybe since my TV overscans them anyway), but I recall some dvds that should have been 1.66 that just looked odd when changed to 1.78 (and overscanned some more on top of that).)
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I suppose the reason you pulled Supercop off was because of that particular version of it, but the Echo Bridge version of Supercop is chopped. (Per the original poster's indication about it.) You should add it back to the list.

Oh and thanks for the list, I'll have to watch for some of these. (It doesn't bother me much 1.78 vs 1.85 (maybe since my TV overscans them anyway), but I recall some dvds that should have been 1.66 that just looked odd when changed to 1.78 (and overscanned some more on top of that).)
I added it back with an EB note.

Thanks very much. I know 1.85:1 to 1.78:1 doesn't bother most people, but I'd personally have the OAR no matter what.
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Old 09-26-2011, 07:00 PM   #8
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I took those two off. I suppose I'll leave The Truman Show in the list even though the difference in 1.66:1/1.85:1 to 1.78:1 is negligible.
It might be worth adding a note against the Truman Show entry to say that the ratio change was achieved by stretching the image rather than matting/zooming. If nothing else, it could save some people from spending money on a botched transfer.
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Outcasts: Season One is 1.78:1 from its intended 2.39:1.

http://www.dvdcompare.net/review.php?rid=2538
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:07 PM   #10
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I took those two off. I suppose I'll leave The Truman Show in the list even though the difference in 1.66:1/1.85:1 to 1.78:1 is negligible.
Well, I will say this: watching Excalibur is mildly torturous with all the top of the heads just barely clipped off from the 1:66 to 1:78 change it it annoys me no end...why the couldn't clip more of the bottom is beyond me if they're going to move into butchery. At least then it might not be so noticeable...
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Baaria: IAR 2.39:1 to 1.78:1
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Old 10-14-2011, 06:27 PM   #12
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Baaria: IAR 2.39:1 to 1.78:1
Done.
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Sorry for the bump ... and I know this was briefly discussed ... but any way you should separate the 1.85 -> 1.78 entries out? It's tough to scour through all of those to find the real offenders of 2.40 -> 1.78 (or worse).
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