4K Blu-ray content on the horizon?

[bkbluray]

4K is a nice idea, but for me, I can't see upgrading to that anytime in the next 5-10 years. I've invested too much into my TV and 1080p Blu-rays to make that worth it in the least. Not to mention, I don't have the space for a very large projector.

I'm not complaining though, if you guys build a 4K theater I will be the first one over

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by bkbluray

4K is a nice idea, but for me, I can't see upgrading to that anytime in the next 5-10 years. I've invested too much into my TV and 1080p Blu-rays to make that worth it in the least...

I appreciate your sentiments, I really do, as they exemplify what I meant by a “pocket shocker” here…
https://forum.blu-ray.com/blu-ray-te...ml#post5390265

or, to put it into more visual terms –

Best Buy® Buy Back Program: Outdated World - YouTube

[Flatnate]

I'll admit that I'm more keen to a 4k resolution computer monitor than anything else at this point. A 4k projector probably comes in second, but 4k for a reasonable living room television at normal viewing distances.... psh.

[J.Seb]

Well, I think 4k sounds very promising for projectors.

Previously, with my old 47" lcd, seating almost 4 m away, I couldn't really tell the difference between 720p and 1080p.

Now, having a 128" screen and sitting at only 2,5 m away, when I read a text from a website for instance, you can see the pixels and ideally I don't think you should be able to tell they are there – I suppose everyone here must be looking for a "pixel seamless" experience.

Even 1080p upscaled content will greatly benefit, because projectors with 1 pixel of resolution for 1 pixel of content kind of struggles…

It's just like comparing the screen of an iPhone 4 to an older iPhone. At first you were blown away by the screen of the first iPhones, but after the retina display came out there is no turning back… Even actual iPads look bad compared to the latest iPhones.

[4styler]

Even before we get to consumer 4k, I would like to see the bitrate on IPTV increase seeing that online downloads are forever increasing and for digital TV broadcasters to up their bitrate.

Here in Australia, there are only two 1080i channels and the bitrate isn't even close to 25mb/s! They would only be averaging about 6-8mb/s, if that!

I applaud Sony getting on the 4k train, but this technology is still good 8 years away from being affordable for everyday consumers! I think glasses-less 3d tv will be next in 2-3 years and THEN 4K 2d... then much later 4K 3d

On the whole 4K note, Canon will be releasing the 4K HDSLR (which will be less than $10,000AUD rumors say) next year and THAT may push this whole 4K revolution... who knows All I know is I'm ready to pre-order mine!

[smackjack22]

To all the people saying we don't need 4k what exactly is your point? It's for sure at least some point in the future we will start seeing 4 k movies being released and than eventually after that 8 k.The sooner 4 k comes out the sooner everything will be affordable.The only thing is your gonna need probably need at least a 100 inch tv to notice the big difference.

We will have to rely on projectors that show 4 k i guess until a 100 inch 4 k tv will be 10 k or less at least for me heh

[42041]

Originally Posted by smackjack22

To all the people saying we don't need 4k what exactly is your point? It's for sure at least some point in the future we will start seeing 4 k movies being released and than eventually after that 8 k.The sooner 4 k comes out the sooner everything will be affordable.The only thing is your gonna need probably need at least a 100 inch tv to notice the big difference.

We will have to rely on projectors that show 4 k i guess until a 100 inch 4 k tv will be 10 k or less at least for me heh

Why do people always ignore the viewing distance part of the equation? How close do you sit to the screen in a movie theater? I doubt you're going right for the front rows; movies are not framed in a way that makes for comfortable viewing there. Most people do not sit close enough to their TVs to resolve 1080p's worth of resolution, let alone 4K.

[lobosrul]

Originally Posted by 4styler

Even before we get to consumer 4k, I would like to see the bitrate on IPTV increase seeing that online downloads are forever increasing and for digital TV broadcasters to up their bitrate.

Here in Australia, there are only two 1080i channels and the bitrate isn't even close to 25mb/s! They would only be averaging about 6-8mb/s, if that!

Things are worse in the states for the most part.

Our cable systems still use MPEG-2. Dish Network (my provider) crams 8 or 9 HDTV channels into each of their 40Mbps transponders (4.5 to 5 Mbps) regardless if its 1080i or 720p. That's an encode on top of the feed getting it to Dish which in many cases its already a pretty low bitrate (AMC HBO and Showtime are no more than 5Mbps). Picture quality is quite soft to put it mildly. I bring this up on forums (satguys) dedicated to satellite TV and I'm told by several members its fine, and obviously my TV is setup wrong (I should crank my sharpness up apparently). Even though somehow other sources look fine (over the air) to awesome (bluray).

And I've seen DirecTV, they seem to prioritize sports channels, but the rest is as bad if not worse than Dish.

Not many people seem to care about picture quality. To the TV providers its all about quantity over quality. Force as many channels as possible on to your customers to justify increasingly higher monthly rates.

Its infuriating to me.

4K HDTV? How about fixing currently existing HDTV.

[Steedeel]

Originally Posted by lobosrul

Things are worse in the states for the most part.

Our cable systems still use MPEG-2. Dish Network (my provider) crams 8 or 9 HDTV channels into each of their 40Mbps transponders (4.5 to 5 Mbps) regardless if its 1080i or 720p. That's an encode on top of the feed getting it to Dish which in many cases its already a pretty low bitrate (AMC HBO and Showtime are no more than 5Mbps). Picture quality is quite soft to put it mildly. I bring this up on forums (satguys) dedicated to satellite TV and I'm told by several members its fine, and obviously my TV is setup wrong (I should crank my sharpness up apparently). Even though somehow other sources look fine (over the air) to awesome (bluray).

And I've seen DirecTV, they seem to prioritize sports channels, but the rest is as bad if not worse than Dish.

Not many people seem to care about picture quality. To the TV providers its all about quantity over quality. Force as many channels as possible on to your customers to justify increasingly higher monthly rates.

Its infuriating to me.

4K HDTV? How about fixing currently existing HDTV.

Many have tried to convince people 4-5 mbps is enough for HD. It aint! I trust my eyes and know what i see. Sounds like your the same!