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Old 11-05-2011, 08:51 PM   #4741
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I'm glad to see us responding in a big way today. I know it's only Duke, but anytime you put up 300 yards of offense in one half it's a good day. Let's go 'Canes!
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Old 11-05-2011, 09:31 PM   #4742
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http://rivals.yahoo.com/ncaa/footbal...ch-allegations


Grossest thing I've ever read. And if Paterno knew even about one instance
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Grossest thing I've ever read. And if Paterno knew even about one instance
This story certainly makes one wonder how deep this went. How many people inside the program knew about it I wonder?
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:14 PM   #4744
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Grossest thing I've ever read. And if Paterno knew even about one instance
Now we know why they call him Joe "Pa".
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Old 11-05-2011, 10:17 PM   #4745
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Tail gaiting at the UCLA game!
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:00 AM   #4746
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This story certainly makes one wonder how deep this went. How many people inside the program knew about it I wonder?
Well a lot of people did apparently. A graduate assistant and janitor each witnessed Sandusky in the act molesting kids and reported it to the AD who did nothing about it.

Apparently now not only is former defensive coordinator Sandusky under, so is the athletic director and Penn St. VP of Finance. Sounds like Paterno did report what he'd heard immediately, but possibly could have done more.

Does anyone know what the heck this "soap battle" is they mention?

http://espn.go.com/college-football/...rjury-sex-case

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A former defensive coordinator who was integral for decades to Penn State's success in football was accused Saturday of sexually abusing eight boys, and the school's athletic director and an administrator were charged with perjury and failing to report what they knew about the allegations in a case that prosecutors said uncovered a years-long trail of a predator and those who protected him.

Former coach Jerry Sandusky, 67, of State College, was arrested Saturday and released on $100,000 bail after being arraigned on 40 criminal counts, the state attorney general's office said. Athletic director Tim Curley, 57, and Penn State vice president for finance and business Gary Schultz, 62, both of Boalsburg, were expected to turn themselves in Monday in Harrisburg. Schultz's position includes oversight of the university's police department.

Longtime head coach Joe Paterno, who has more victories than any coach in the history of Division I football, was not charged, authorities said, and the grand jury report did not appear to implicate him in wrongdoing. It said that when Paterno first learned of one report of abuse, he immediately reported it to Curley, but Sandusky was no longer coaching at the time and it's not clear whether Paterno followed up with Curley.

Sandusky, closely identified with the school's reputation as a defensive powerhouse and a program that produced top-quality linebackers, retired in 1999 but continued to work with at-risk children through the nonprofit Second Mile organization he founded in 1977. He was charged with multiple counts of involuntary deviate sexual intercourse, corruption of minors, endangering the welfare of a child, indecent assault and unlawful contact with a minor, as well as single counts of aggravated indecent assault and attempted indecent assault. A preliminary hearing for Sandusky is scheduled for Wednesday, but his lawyer told reporters it would likely be delayed.

"He's shaky, as you can expect," defense attorney Joe Amendola told WJAC-TV outside the arraignment hearing. "Being 67 years old, never having faced criminal charges in his life, and having the distinguished career that he's had, these are very serious allegations."

Amendola said Sandusky has been aware of the accusations for about three years and has maintained his innocence.

The allegations range from sexual touching to oral and anal sex, and victims testified they were in their early teens when some of the abuse occurred.

Attorney General Linda Kelly called Sandusky "a sexual predator who used his position within the university and community to repeatedly prey on young boys."

The grand jury said eight boys who were targets of sexual advances or assaults by Sandusky from 1994 to 2009. None were named, and in at least one case, the jury said the child's identity remains unknown to authorities.

One accuser, now 27, testified that Sandusky initiated contact with a "soap battle" in the shower that led to multiple instances of involuntary sexual intercourse and indecent assault at Sandusky's hands, the grand jury report said.

Victim 4, as he was identified in the jury report, said he traveled to charity functions and Penn State games with Sandusky, even being listed as a member of Sandusky's family's party for the 1998 Outback Bowl and 1999 Alamo Bowl.

"Sandusky did threaten to send him home from the Alamo Bowl in Texas when Victim 4 resisted his advances," the report said, and Sandusky gave him clothes, shoes, a snowboard, golf clubs, hockey gear and football jerseys.

"Sandusky even guaranteed Victim 4 that he could be a walk-on player at Penn State," and the boy appeared with Sandusky in a photo in Sports Illustrated, the jury said. He testified that Sandusky once gave him $50 to buy marijuana, drove him to purchase it, and then drove him home as the boy smoked the drug, according to the report.

"This was when Victim 4 was trying to distance himself from Sandusky because he wanted no more sexual contact with him," the jurors said.

Another child, Victim 8, as jurors named him, is known only as a boy, about 11 to 13, who was seen pinned against a wall, by a janitor who observed Sandusky performing oral sex on him in fall 2000, the jury said.

No one answered a knock at the door Saturday at Sandusky's modest, two-story brick home at the end of a dead-end road in State College. A man who answered the door at The Second Mile office in State College who declined to give his name said the organization had no comment.

The report accuses Curley and Schultz of knowing some details of accusations of sex abuse against Sandusky but failing to tell authorities what they knew.

"It is also a case about high-ranking university officials who allegedly failed to report the sexual assault of a young boy after the information was brought to their attention, and later made false statements to a grand jury," Kelly said.

Lawyers for both men issued statements saying they were innocent of all charges.

Prosecutors said all of the young men first encountered Sandusky through Second Mile.

The first to come to light was a boy who met Sandusky when he was 11 or 12, the grand jury said. The boy received expensive gifts and trips to sports events from Sandusky, and physical contact began during his overnight stays at Sandusky's home, jurors said. Eventually, the boy's mother reported the allegations of sexual assault to his high school, and Sandusky was banned from the child's school district in Clinton County in 2009. That triggered the state investigation that culminated in charges Saturday.

The report also alleges much earlier instances of abuse, and efforts by some who knew of it to stop it, to no avail.

Kelly said that in 2002, a graduate assistant saw Sandusky sexually assault a naked boy, estimated to be about 10 years old, in the locker room of the Lasch Football Building on campus. The grad student and his father reported what he saw to Paterno, who immediately told Curley, prosecutors said.

Curley and Schultz met with the graduate assistant about a week and a half later, Kelly said. Nothing happened.

"Despite a powerful eyewitness statement about the sexual assault of a child, this incident was not reported to any law enforcement or child protective agency, as required by Pennsylvania law," Kelly said.

There's no indication that anyone at school attempted to find the boy, or follow up with the witness, she said.

Curley denied that the assistant had reported anything of a sexual nature, calling it "merely `horsing around," the 23-page grand jury report said.

But the jury said Curley was lying, Kelly said, adding that it also deemed portions of Schultz's testimony not to be credible.

Curley testified that he barred Sandusky from bringing children onto campus and that he advised Penn State president Graham Spanier of the matter.

Schultz told the jurors he also knew of a 1998 investigation involving sexually inappropriate behavior by Sandusky with a boy in the showers the football team used. But despite his job overseeing campus police, he never reported the 2002 allegations to any authorities, "never sought or received a police report on the 1998 incident and never attempted to learn the identity of the child in the show in 2002," the jurors wrote.

"No one from the university did so."

In response to a request for comment from Paterno, a spokesman for the athletic department said all such questions would be referred to university representatives, who released a statement from Spanier calling the allegations against Sandusky "troubling" and adding Curley and Schultz had his unconditional support.
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Old 11-06-2011, 12:35 AM   #4747
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Well here's the Pennsylvania Grand Jury indictment for the Penn St. Sandusky case. I only read the first few pages and it's completely disgusting. Even worse than the story reported so far by the media.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:22 AM   #4748
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Well here's the Pennsylvania Grand Jury indictment for the Penn St. Sandusky case. I only read the first few pages and it's completely disgusting. Even worse than the story reported so far by the media.

http://www.attorneygeneral.gov/uploa...resentment.pdf
Don't think I want to start reading then.


If Joe Pa knew of one he should have been gone after that. And the media should have been informed when it happened.

LSU/BAMA game is living up to the hype.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:43 AM   #4749
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Alabama's FG unit is terrible. They should have a solid lead, but thanks to the misses it's 3-3 at halftime.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:48 AM   #4750
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Alabama's FG unit is terrible. They should have a solid lead, but thanks to the misses it's 3-3 at halftime.
And pair that with LSU's history of winning games they have no business winning. If Alabama can't knock out LSU, it wouldn't surprise me to see them sneak out the win in the end.
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Old 11-06-2011, 01:58 AM   #4751
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Umm... that looked like a reception for Alabama, not a pick.

EDIT - Never mind, on second look I do think he ripped it away before being down. Amazing defense. Might have saved this game for LSU.

I love this game. Old school low-scoring, defense dominant SEC matchup. Wow, that was a 72 yard punt by LSU!

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Old 11-06-2011, 02:13 AM   #4752
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Wow, Kansas St. might actually win this one. They lead undefeated Oklahoma St. 38-37 with 5 min left.
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What a dirty a$$ play by lsu.
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What a dirty a$$ play by lsu.
I had no idea you were a Bills fan, go LSU, I guess. Heck of a game so far, quite a run by the LSU QB!
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Another huge stop by Alabama's defense.
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52 seconds left, this sucker may go into like quadruple OT.
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:24 AM   #4757
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Wild night. Alabama-LSU is 6-6 going into OT while undefeated Oklahoma St. is clinging to a 45-38 lead in a shootout.
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Bad drive by Alabama will probably cost them this game with their horrific kicker.
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Old 11-06-2011, 02:30 AM   #4759
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Alabama really blew it. Disaster of an OT possession, with a missed FG. All LSU needs is a FG to win it.
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LSU did it. Great defensive 9-6 win. LSU still has a tough game against Arkansas to win later in the year in order to make the title game.

Oklahoma St. barely survived K-State, winning 52-45 to stay undefeated.

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