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Old 11-22-2011, 02:42 AM   #10821
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Finally bought this today at $50. Can't wait to see LOTR on Blu.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:58 AM   #10822
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Green tint or not, I couldn't pass up the current $50 price point. Damn, and I was trying so hard to be good and hold out for the eventual ultimate LOTR box set with both Hobbit films. I'm so weak!
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:06 PM   #10823
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What WTF moment are you guys talking about? It's been a while since I've made it through the entire extended ROTK.
I have mentioned this several times during this thread. At the risk of getting in trouble, I will just say it was the scene in which the Witch-King knocks Gandalf off his horse at the entrance to Minas Tirith. It is COMPLETELY contrary to the story and in variance to Tolkien's legends.
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:09 PM   #10824
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Green tint or not, I couldn't pass up the current $50 price point. Damn, and I was trying so hard to be good and hold out for the eventual ultimate LOTR box set with both Hobbit films. I'm so weak!
Yep I caved, I got the first set at bestbuy dirt cheap the week it came out I think I saved 10 bucks on some promo 40 bucks there. Then this set for 49.99

I just about hit msrp but have both sets (never seen the EE's hopefully people aren't lying and these are where its at )
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Old 11-22-2011, 12:29 PM   #10825
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I really wanted the E.E of Lord of the Rings Trilogy, even at $50, and as much as I like the giftset, I cannot even bring myself to pay $30 because of the green tint issue. At first, I blew it off as just a very minor issue that "some" people will notice, but recently looking at screen shot comparisons, I find this unacceptable. It's a shame that such a great Trilogy is ruined by a poor color palate in the studio, and still no word from Peter Jackson himself if this was intentional or accidental.
I will not watch the Fellowship EE Blu-ray again not only because of the tint, but the overall darker picture; the TE is brighter and is now my preferred version (I just watched it again this past weekend). However, you may find that that The Two Towers and Return of the King EE's are easily worth the $50 that the set is going for this week. I am buying one for my daughter.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:05 PM   #10826
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Just watch the digital copies. Right color palette and you don't have to change discs.

Granted, I'm not that big a Rings fan. Still, I'd buy the Fellowship of the Ring EE by itself if the color was corrected and if it was on one BD....

...for now, the digital copy of Fellowship EE will do me just fine.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:15 PM   #10827
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I will not watch the Fellowship EE Blu-ray again not only because of the tint, but the overall darker picture; the TE is brighter and is now my preferred version (I just watched it again this past weekend). However, you may find that that The Two Towers and Return of the King EE's are easily worth the $50 that the set is going for this week. I am buying one for my daughter.
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I've watched the Fellowship a couple times in EE BD, and the more I watch the less and less I like it... the issue that shall not be named isn't that bad except for a few scenes but the black crush is just aweful and apparent in several scenes that I just can't do. I'll watch my EE DVD's for now, unless this ever gets fixed.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:22 PM   #10828
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I have mentioned this several times during this thread. At the risk of getting in trouble, I will just say it was the scene in which the Witch-King knocks Gandalf off his horse at the entrance to Minas Tirith. It is COMPLETELY contrary to the story and in variance to Tolkien's legends.
How so? I've never read the books, so the films are my only point of reference. I do remember Peter Jackson saying the story was literally unfilmable from a source standpoint, so it makes sense they changed some things.
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Old 11-22-2011, 01:46 PM   #10829
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Right on man!!!
BTW, these green tint issues really shock me and I haven't seen the BDs yet. I'm also in the same boat as those that are surprised that we haven't heard from WB/Jackson on this yet.
Peter Jackson probably won't comment on the issue, if he's too busy doing other things.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:31 PM   #10830
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I'm still on the fence about getting the blu-ray EE set even at $49.99.

A) I own the DVD EE's which means I own 50% of the same exact content on the same number of DVD discs which means I'm throwing money away.

B) I love the packaging and mail-away case that came with the purchase of original DVD EE trilogy set.

C) I'm not too keen on the idea of the green tint change.

If I could buy the 3 EE movies individually without the bonus discs for $30 or less I think I'd buy in. Honestly though, the DVDs look pretty darn good. They need to really give me more of a compelling reason to buy these movies again on BR.

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Old 11-22-2011, 02:40 PM   #10831
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They need to really give me more of a compelling reason to buy these movies again on BR.
The proper abbreviation for Blu-ray is: BD, nor "BR".
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:49 PM   #10832
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I was so excited about the price drop I forgot why I skipped this release in the first place. I can wait a bit longer, I don't want to double dip on the bonus features and get a "bad" FOTR. I still love my EE set.
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Old 11-22-2011, 02:51 PM   #10833
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C) I'm not too keen on the idea of the green tint change.
Again its what YOU can notice. Some people pick up on things MUCH easier then others (you may not be one of those people).
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:05 PM   #10834
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The proper abbreviation for Blu-ray is: BD, nor "BR".
Thanks.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:08 PM   #10835
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Again its what YOU can notice. Some people pick up on things MUCH easier then others (you may not be one of those people).
That's very true. I intentionally listed the tint change last because I think I could likely deal with it to some degree...but seeing the changes on those youtube videos doesn't exactly appease any doubts I have.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:28 PM   #10836
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How so? I've never read the books, so the films are my only point of reference. I do remember Peter Jackson saying the story was literally unfilmable from a source standpoint, so it makes sense they changed some things.
Gandalf was an angelic being from the Undying Lands. Tolkien called his type of being a Maia (plural: Maiar). Sauron was a Maia, as was the Balrog, and the other wizards. The Witch-King was only a man who possessed a ring of power and was controlled by Sauron. The Istari (wizards) were forbidden to match Sauron's power directly, but were sent to assist the people's of Middle Earth in resisting him. So they had great power but kept it hidden most of the time.

As Gandalf the Grey (before he became even more powerful as Gandalf the White) he fought off several Ringwraiths at Weathertop, while he was drawing them away from Aragorn and the Hobbits. Gandalf the Grey also defeated and killed the Balrog in Moria.

As Gandalf the White (when he replaced Saruman as the head of the wizards), he drove off several Ringwraiths who were attacking Faramir as he was retreating to Minas Tirith.

Others here disagree with me, but it is absurd to think that one Ringwraith would defeat Gandalf, even if he was the chief of the Ringwraiths. In the book, the confrontation ended with no fight, because the Witch-King turned and left to fight Rohan which had just arrived. Gandalf was going to go out and fight him but had to save Faramir instead from his insane father.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:35 PM   #10837
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[Show spoiler]Gandalf was an angelic being from the Undying Lands. Tolkien called his type of being a Maia (plural: Maiar). Sauron was a Maia, as was the Balrog, and the other wizards. The Witch-King was only a man who possessed a ring of power and was controlled by Sauron. The Istari (wizards) were forbidden to match Sauron's power directly, but were sent to assist the people's of Middle Earth in resisting him. So they had great power but kept it hidden most of the time.

As Gandalf the Grey (before he became even more powerful as Gandalf the White) he fought off several Ringwraiths at Weathertop, while he was drawing them away from Aragorn and the Hobbits. Gandalf the Grey also defeated and killed the Balrog in Moria.

As Gandalf the White (when he replaced Saruman as the head of the wizards), he drove off several Ringwraiths who were attacking Faramir as he was retreating to Minas Tirith.

Others here disagree with me, but it is absurd to think that one Ringwraith would defeat Gandalf, even if he was the chief of the Ringwraiths. In the book, the confrontation ended with no fight, because the Witch-King turned and left to fight Rohan which had just arrived. Gandalf was going to go out and fight him but had to save Faramir instead from his insane father.
Sorry, I don't mean to be a bastard and nitpick, but wasn't Maiar singular and Maia plural? Don't hurt me...

Edit: You are correct, I was wrong, I guess I always had that backwards

Sorry, don't hurt me... :P
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:42 PM   #10838
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Put the Witch-King being able to defeat Gandalf in the bin of "Doesn't Make Sense" for the LOTR trilogy. It's in there with Gandalf thinking Helm's Deep is a bad idea.

So why exactly is Sauron so powerful? He's under Gandalf, especially when he gets "upgraded" after defeating the Balrog.

Why doesn't Manwar just blow up all the bad guys and establish peace?

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Old 11-22-2011, 03:47 PM   #10839
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I intentionally listed the tint change last because I think I could likely deal with it to some degree...but seeing the changes on those youtube videos doesn't exactly appease any doubts I have.
To resolve the issue, I recommend a simple test you can do that doesn't take too much time. Watch the EE Blu-ray of "Fellowship" near the beginning where Gandalf arrives to where Bilbo leaves Bag End - then watch the same sequence on the theatrical edition. If the tint or darkness of the EE doesn't bother you (or if you don't notice it at all, which I would find incredible), then you are good to go for the rest of the movie.
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Old 11-22-2011, 03:50 PM   #10840
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Gandalf was an angelic being from the Undying Lands. Tolkien called his type of being a Maia (plural: Maiar). Sauron was a Maia, as was the Balrog, and the other wizards. The Witch-King was only a man who possessed a ring of power and was controlled by Sauron. The Istari (wizards) were forbidden to match Sauron's power directly, but were sent to assist the people's of Middle Earth in resisting him. So they had great power but kept it hidden most of the time.

As Gandalf the Grey (before he became even more powerful as Gandalf the White) he fought off several Ringwraiths at Weathertop, while he was drawing them away from Aragorn and the Hobbits. Gandalf the Grey also defeated and killed the Balrog in Moria.

As Gandalf the White (when he replaced Saruman as the head of the wizards), he drove off several Ringwraiths who were attacking Faramir as he was retreating to Minas Tirith.

Others here disagree with me, but it is absurd to think that one Ringwraith would defeat Gandalf, even if he was the chief of the Ringwraiths. In the book, the confrontation ended with no fight, because the Witch-King turned and left to fight Rohan which had just arrived. Gandalf was going to go out and fight him but had to save Faramir instead from his insane father.
Well, I can appreciate your pain. I'm one of those purist-types that has read everything he can get his hands on, including the Christopher Tolkien commentaries, but I have to say: it makes dramatic sense that this one particular Wraith is completely badass and a threat or else, Maiar or no, Gandalf becomes a God, and then the argument becomes if he's so strong, why doesn't HE take them all out permanently or even why doesn't HE just take the ring? It establishes some weakness for dramatic purposes in a narrative that necessarily plays quicker than a book.

For this reason, I didn't get too upset that Frodo and the other Hobbits were younger than they should have been or that they set out immediately with the ring from the Shire to make it seem like a real threat as opposed to hanging around and waiting as in the book. Or that the elves show up at Helm's Deep. I'm sure these have already been mentioned, but the list of discrepancies could go on and on...
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