Not many films to encourage upgrading to BD!

[Tiamat_M]

Originally Posted by Luis_A51

I think in all fairness, yes you are entitled to your opinion. While all the rest of us on here have certainly found atleast a few movies that interest us on BD, maybe you really havent. And maybe you should just wait to get a BD player.

However, it gets EXTREMELY tiresome every single time a NEW MEMBER shows up and complains about the movie selection. If you hate it so much, why even bother posting? No one wants to read needlessly negative threads.

Enjoy your DVDs, and come back when you find a movie you like. We'll welcome you then.

Many thanks for your comments Luis A51. I don't mean to be tiresome or complaining about the movie selection and dumping a lot of negativity! My apologies if I gave that impression. I was merely trying to assess the situation by tapping into the BD cognoscienti, in doing so it confirmed my assessment of where Blu-Ray stands at present.

Many thanks for your comments and support!
Tiamat_M

[Blu-Beard]

How is he a "red mole" when he clearly stated that from a tech point of view, Blu is the way to go. He also implied that he doesn't have an HDTV, so if he's a red camper, how's he watching HD-DVD? Did you think about that?

And he never said there weren't any titles on Blu that he'd like, just not enough to make the final plunge.

To everyone in here that has made a beligerent reply to the OP:
Why are you putting words in this guys mouth? I find it hard to take any of your posts seriously considering they aren't even replies to what he ACTUALLY SAID.

How about being friendly to him and not ostrasizing him just because he's not adopting early? He's pretty much made it clear that when he does finally upgrade it will be to Blu(when they have more titles).

[Minimejer05]

I think with whats out already..should be enough to jump to high def. Die Hard,Spiderman,Pirates... those movies are pretty big.

[GORT]

Originally Posted by rwojtalewicz

Now that's a contradiction if I ever seen one, owning 500 DVD movie titles and not one of those is available on Blu-ray Nonsense! Or, if true, what kind of movies are they? Dare to post those titles for all to see?

As a new member with only 3 posts, you got a lot of chutzpah posting that. Many respectable members on this forum have invested thousands of dollars in their BD collections You are in effect telling them that their films have no quality and value!

Very Well Said

[Eternal Blu]

Originally Posted by ryoohki

Yeah.. like Star Wars was released so fast on DVD.. WRONG.. .TOOK 7 YEARS!
Titles such as star wars, are high quality value movies which by no means looks good on any format. But to say that you would wait for these titles is a little insane(no pun intended), I would have to seriously disagree w/ you about the fact there's no good quality titles that you've seen thus far. !

[bajor27]

I'm still at a loss as to what to make of you.

First you want Star Wars , Matrix, and LOTR on Blu
Then when checking which titles you might want on Blu, you only check Drama?

You mention that you're still buying DVDs
You talk about not wanting to re-buy DVDs on Blu


What type of movies are you interested in? Drama only? if so - why mention Star Wars and Matrix? If not, than why not check out the other genres?


If you don't want to re-buy on Blu becuase you don't see the befefit:cost ratio being great enough I'm very shocked you haven't done what many of us did in anticipation of Blu. Stop buying DVDs

IMO, the benefit of Blu Ray over DVD isn't gettting better as the days go by. It will still be 1080P in a year. It will still be lossless audio in a year. Except if you wait that long, you'll be years behind on Blu purchases and will have missed out on some great stuff.


Also, if things like star wars and the matrix do interest you, how is it you're not interested in titles like I am Legend, Batman, Spider-man, Golden Compass, Simpsons, Independence Day, I, Robot, Harry Potter, and the many others like that.

And I guess what I'm still left wondering is what are you still buying on DVD. Did you buy the newest Harry Potter? Did you buy Spidey 3? Are you planning on buying the titles that are coming to Blu soon like I am Legend and Golden Compass? If so, would you not rather own them in Blu.

Also, how many titles are you wait for and why that amount. Are you planning on buying a player and 100 movies all at once? Why not get in now with the 10-20 titels you might like and then get more as they keep coming?

[Blu-Beard]

Originally Posted by bajor27

I'm still at a loss as to what to make of you.

First you want Star Wars , Matrix, and LOTR on Blu
Then when checking which titles you might want on Blu, you only check Drama?

You mention that you're still buying DVDs
You talk about not wanting to re-buy DVDs on Blu


What type of movies are you interested in? Drama only? if so - why mention Star Wars and Matrix? If not, than why not check out the other genres?


If you don't want to re-buy on Blu becuase you don't see the befefit:cost ratio being great enough I'm very shocked you haven't done what many of us did in anticipation of Blu. Stop buying DVDs

IMO, the benefit of Blu Ray over DVD isn't gettting better as the days go by. It will still be 1080P in a year. It will still be lossless audio in a year. Except if you wait that long, you'll be years behind on Blu purchases and will have missed out on some great stuff.


Also, if things like star wars and the matrix do interest you, how is it you're not interested in titles like I am Legend, Batman, Spider-man, Golden Compass, Simpsons, Independence Day, I, Robot, Harry Potter, and the many others like that.

And I guess what I'm still left wondering is what are you still buying on DVD. Did you buy the newest Harry Potter? Did you buy Spidey 3? Are you planning on buying the titles that are coming to Blu soon like I am Legend and Golden Compass? If so, would you not rather own them in Blu.

Also, how many titles are you wait for and why that amount. Are you planning on buying a player and 100 movies all at once? Why not get in now with the 10-20 titels you might like and then get more as they keep coming?

Very well said. All valid points. Good tact, and didn't put words in his mouth like some of the other posters

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by Tiamat_M

My challenge that I am grappling with is that if I can watch these films once again on DVD, I have difficulty in paying the premium to watch the same films I already own in a higher resolution. To summarise it's a matter of cost versus benefit!

Tiamat_M

then as long as you keep buying DVD's, you will never have a reason to move to the HD format no matter how many are released. Maybe if you stop buy new DVDs you will get to a point where there is enough to invest in Blu-ray.

Personally, I am quite choosy on films I want to own. I have 25 BDs and there are about 5 more I want that just came out or will be out in the net 2 months. This is out of everything released to date, but for me that is enough to invest and enjoy the technology as I believe it will be around and expand. If I was uncertain about that, they maybe I would hesitate.

[scraptor]

Wow, I can't believe the responses here. The OP states in his original post he backs blu and he gets stomped on.

I've been blu for six months and I'm practically addicted to this site because I'm so starved for content.

In 6 months I've only purchased 8 bds because most of my favorite catalogue films are unreleased. I've been a near zealot for the format, showcasing it, arguing with red fans, but the OP echoes a familiar sentiment. I like to phrase it as "the best is yet to come", but when?

Batman begins in q3??!

The blockbusters the OP listed are all good stories, not just eyecandy like ID4. I'd buy all of them in a second, plus fight club, v, english patient, lawrence, zhivago, other classics, donnie darko, gladiator, the west wing, etc.

FYI i've bought rescue dawn, pan's, prestige, planet earth, troy, KOH, assassination of jj, potc.

The OP wrote a very reasonable followup and still is derided. I think we need to remember that red is dead and addressing these concerns is more important than maintaining a bunker mentality.

IMO, slow content offering is a huge danger/missed opportunity, especially when you have a consumer draining recession here. I recognize the constraints involved but surely some central strategic planning would think ahead of the curve.

I've been lurking since i went blu and am only posting bc the hostility in this thread ticked me off. Early adopters, you're going to meet many people like the OP and being discourteous achieves nothing. btw, this is important enough to me that i entered it despite having to use my ps3 controller.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by scraptor

IMO, slow content offering is a huge danger/missed opportunity, especially when you have a consumer draining recession here. I recognize the constraints involved but surely some central strategic planning would think ahead of the curve.

There is such a thing as too few as well as too many released at one time. As the amount of funds spent is not unlimited, spreading those purchases over a large amount of titles will mean smaller return per title, more space needed in retail for less return per foot, etc. The rate of titles release have to go hand in hand with the growth of the format. Too slow, it might hurt people from adopting, too fast it might cause a glut of inventory and losses for all involved.

I don't know if the current rate is too slow or not, but I am sure they consider what is able to be supported given current market adoption. I know it is a bit of a catch 22 but nobody wants to make a loss.

[mr peepers]

you guys are unbelievable.

some of you people that are just slamming this guy make me feel embarrassed to even be a part of this forum.

so dude doesn't think theres enough films out to HIS liking to make the plunge. big deal. everyone on this forum wishes there were more films out on BD and everyone here always asks when "insert film here" comes out and how you cant wait till it does. well guess what, this guy CAN WAIT and he's going to. believe it or not, theres probably a sh*t ton of people that think the exact same way he does that haven't dipped in either hd format yet.

so lay off the guy, my god.

and for the record, all the more power to this guy for waiting. hes probably going to save thousands of dollars on hardware, bd players, receivers, bd movies, and everything else that comes along with hd movies and hd viewing. All just because he wants to wait for more HIS favorite movies to come out on bd.

yeah, this guy really has it bad.

take a break guys. they're just opinions.

[supersix4]

lol seems you just mentioned the only films YOU like other people like other movies that have come out and feel wonderful about them... not everyone will die if lotr, star wars and matrix dont come to blu-ray for a couple years.

[Canada]

I hope you're kidding

[scraptor]

Originally Posted by jdc115

As the amount of funds spent is not unlimited, spreading those purchases over a large amount of titles will mean smaller return per title, more space needed in retail for less return per foot, etc. The rate of titles release have to go hand in hand with the growth of the format. Too slow, it might hurt people from adopting, too fast it might cause a glut of inventory and losses for all involved.

I don't know if the current rate is too slow or not, but I am sure they consider what is able to be supported given current market adoption. I know it is a bit of a catch 22 but nobody wants to make a loss.

Here's the thing: sometimes you need to invest early for later returns. Sony's PS3 investment (losing dough on a more expensive blu-ray-enabled machine) is a classic case--now that adoption is achieved, they are in the black with huge momentum.

The smaller returns per title will be offset by increased volume. Increased volume will lower costs (again, see PS3) which will help to improve returns.

I mean, either you back the format or you don't. I firmly believe if you put the product out there the PQ and SQ will sell itself. I could understand caution while WB was on the fence, but now that the war is essentially over, there needs to be a big push on improving the breadth of content.

Maybe the studios are waiting on the recession, which I believe will be pretty bad. But if they wait too long, who knows what happens in the balance.

[jdc115]

Originally Posted by scraptor

Here's the thing: sometimes you need to invest early for later returns. Sony's PS3 investment (losing dough on a more expensive blu-ray-enabled machine) is a classic case--now that adoption is achieved, they are in the black with huge momentum.

The smaller returns per title will be offset by increased volume. Increased volume will lower costs (again, see PS3) which will help to improve returns.

I mean, either you back the format or you don't. I firmly believe if you put the product out there the PQ and SQ will sell itself. I could understand caution while WB was on the fence, but now that the war is essentially over, there needs to be a big push on improving the breadth of content.

Maybe the studios are waiting on the recession, which I believe will be pretty bad. But if they wait too long, who knows what happens in the balance.

All resources are limited and they wont want to shift too much if demand can not keep up for the supply. I would like to see a lot more titles as well, especially since i don't have an interest in a lot of the blockbuster titles out there but I wouldn't expect a huge surge anytime soon. I think they will try to stay just ahead of the growth of the format. Of course more titles will help attract more adopters but there is a point of diminishing returns and they just can not flood the market if is wont be absorded.

[Stuart_Larkin]

I'm curious why so many people list "The Matrix" as such a heavy hitter? I didn't like the series. However even the fans tend to say that only the first one was good right? So The Matrix isn't a heavy hitter.

[Riverside666]

The matrix is one of those films that you buy with no shame or no real regret. Yeah anyone will say only the first one is really good but at the same time it's not like you're hating watching the the other 2. They may be boring at times but the action value out of them is pretty good. It's just one of those dumb guy flicks where you just watch it for the hell of watching it, similar to die hard.

[BStecke]

Originally Posted by Riverside666

It's just one of those dumb guy flicks where you just watch it for the hell of watching it, similar to die hard.

Hey now, let's give a little more credit to Die Hard

The Matrix was one of the first "show all your friends" titles to come out on DVD, I guess it's kind of stuck. Plus, the first one is still one of the better movies to come out in the last ten years. I didn't watch it for awhile and sat down to watch it a few months ago and came away like "Damn, that's still a great movie." The first Matrix is DEFINITELY a heavy hitter.

[Living Near Shamu]

Maybe the OP works for Toshiba, lol

Seriously, just being in Europe is a disadvantage (if you believe so) but many people here are from the mother country and if they want something, they'll get it. For every $20 you spend on a dvd, you could easily spend the extra $5 and get the blu-ray version.

[scraptor]

Originally Posted by jdc115

All resources are limited and they wont want to shift too much if demand can not keep up for the supply.

I agree with this statement, but I've suffered through countless product shortages over the last six months that suggest to me that demand is keeping up with supply just fine, or in fact is outstripping supply. This is purely anecdotal, and may not be representative of what is really happening.