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BStecke · 02-10-2008, 12:18 AM

The cable company is actually the one screwing with you . . . while you are correct in saying that it's not a stretched image, what actually happens is they zoom in on the frame until it's 16:9 and that's how they broadcast it. Garbage.

chrisshea · 02-10-2008, 10:06 AM

i should of took picture
u could clearly seen more of the image

Blu-Beard · 02-10-2008, 10:13 AM

I'm with BStecke on this one.

Xerious · 02-10-2008, 11:30 AM

all the harry potters i own are OAR... thus i have black bars... everyone else is right... i wouldn't take the cable company's version as defacto.

Moefiz · 02-10-2008, 12:14 PM

I have to agree with almost everyone on this.I hate to look at a movie on cable or regulars broadcast because they always edit stuff to fit the time allowed.
They trim it to make sure the commercials get one, change the language when you know the F word is coming you get hell or some crap at that.

As for the HP movies all as the Black Bars on the to and bottom on the screen.One of them was on HBO HD the other night and it took up the whole screen can't say that it looked good.

Stick with the BD.

Skillz5 · 02-10-2008, 12:59 PM

This happens in many Pan and Scan films too...but here is what you get...

When the film is recorded, there is a very large amount filmed outside the aspect ratio. Remember the film is framed in a certain aspect ration the director chooses. There is more film above, below, and left and right of the actual ratio. When you have a cropped image on TV, they may add some of the outside image which did not make it into the aspect ratio. Sometimes, for fans, this can be great! Other times, it can show you things you were not meant to see such as boom mics and behind the scenes junk.

Watch Back to the Future part 2 and during the DeLorean scene where Marty uses the hoverboard to sneak up on Biff in his car to get the Almanac. In the Pan and Scan version, you can see all the tricks and behind the scenes stuff you do not see in the 1:85 aspect ratio. Jurassic Park also does this same thing throughout the Pan and Scan film.

It seems that 1:85 aspect ratio exposes alot of extra footage because there is not much to crop for 4:3. Otherwise we would feel like we are in the 80's when cropping was not easy and the alternative was to squish the screen and make slim tall people which looked really funny. See Jaws 3-D and Short Circuit in Pan and Scan sometime!!!

pokerface · 02-10-2008, 01:47 PM

Switch your TV to "full" picture mode if you don't like the bars. For the record they a supposed to be there.

Razzy · 02-10-2008, 05:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BStecke

The cable company is actually the one screwing with you . . . while you are correct in saying that it's not a stretched image, what actually happens is they zoom in on the frame until it's 16:9 and that's how they broadcast it. Garbage.

Yup, just like when I was watching the Matrix the other day on cable. Originally filmed in the 2.35:1 aspect ratio, the Showcase HD channel's broadcast was zoomed up to fit my 16x9 screen. It looked horrible. Can't wait for the Blu ray version.

chrisshea · 02-10-2008, 06:30 PM

not actuayl complaining against black bars
was just hoping there was something not right in my settings and i should be gething more

but films on bd with 16:9 looks nice

Amel · 02-10-2008, 06:34 PM

see if there is a option for "full scan" or "full screen"

my LCD has one and its shows more picture than 16:9

02-10-2008, 12:18 AM	#1
BStecke Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jun 2007 4K collection:182 Blu-ray collection:567 DVD collection:1 Digital collection:1 iTunes collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 1 Trading Score:6	The cable company is actually the one screwing with you . . . while you are correct in saying that it's not a stretched image, what actually happens is they zoom in on the frame until it's 16:9 and that's how they broadcast it. Garbage.

02-10-2008, 10:06 AM	#2
chrisshea Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	i should of took picture u could clearly seen more of the image

02-10-2008, 10:13 AM	#3
Blu-Beard Banned Member since:Jan 2008	I'm with BStecke on this one.

02-10-2008, 11:30 AM	#4
Xerious Special Member Member since:Mar 2007 Location:Washington, DC Blu-ray collection:238 Blu-ray reviews:4	all the harry potters i own are OAR... thus i have black bars... everyone else is right... i wouldn't take the cable company's version as defacto.

02-10-2008, 12:14 PM	#5
Moefiz Blu-ray Knight Member since:Jul 2007 Blu-ray collection:288 DVD collection:20 Blu-ray reviews: 15 Trading Score:70	I have to agree with almost everyone on this.I hate to look at a movie on cable or regulars broadcast because they always edit stuff to fit the time allowed. They trim it to make sure the commercials get one, change the language when you know the F word is coming you get hell or some crap at that. As for the HP movies all as the Black Bars on the to and bottom on the screen.One of them was on HBO HD the other night and it took up the whole screen can't say that it looked good. Stick with the BD.

02-10-2008, 12:59 PM	#6
Skillz5 Active Member Member since:Oct 2007 Location:Uptown Whittier, CA 4K collection:138 Blu-ray collection:568 DVD collection:1 iTunes collection:51	This happens in many Pan and Scan films too...but here is what you get... When the film is recorded, there is a very large amount filmed outside the aspect ratio. Remember the film is framed in a certain aspect ration the director chooses. There is more film above, below, and left and right of the actual ratio. When you have a cropped image on TV, they may add some of the outside image which did not make it into the aspect ratio. Sometimes, for fans, this can be great! Other times, it can show you things you were not meant to see such as boom mics and behind the scenes junk. Watch Back to the Future part 2 and during the DeLorean scene where Marty uses the hoverboard to sneak up on Biff in his car to get the Almanac. In the Pan and Scan version, you can see all the tricks and behind the scenes stuff you do not see in the 1:85 aspect ratio. Jurassic Park also does this same thing throughout the Pan and Scan film. It seems that 1:85 aspect ratio exposes alot of extra footage because there is not much to crop for 4:3. Otherwise we would feel like we are in the 80's when cropping was not easy and the alternative was to squish the screen and make slim tall people which looked really funny. See Jaws 3-D and Short Circuit in Pan and Scan sometime!!!

02-10-2008, 01:47 PM	#7
pokerface Active Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:Delaware Blu-ray collection:360	Switch your TV to "full" picture mode if you don't like the bars. For the record they a supposed to be there.

02-10-2008, 06:30 PM	#9
chrisshea Active Member Member since:Mar 2007 Blu-ray reviews:3	not actuayl complaining against black bars was just hoping there was something not right in my settings and i should be gething more but films on bd with 16:9 looks nice

02-10-2008, 06:34 PM	#10
Amel Special Member Member since:Jun 2007 Location:Clearwater FL Blu-ray collection:91 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:2	see if there is a option for "full scan" or "full screen" my LCD has one and its shows more picture than 16:9

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