The Criterion Collection

[rkish]

Originally Posted by BluLobsta

For you Godard fans out there, of which I must be one since my budding Criterion (Godard?) collection consists solely of Godard so far Fandor has a piece called Godardloop which some of you may be interested in and which looks very cool indeed...

From Fandor:
Editor’s Note: Keyframe presents the online debut of Godardloop, a multi-part video essay on the films of Jean-Luc Godard. Produced by Michael Baute and edited by Bettina Blickwede, this video explores a treasure trove of imagery found in dozens of Godard’s features and shorts, grouping them among several distinct themes. Godardloop is, in my opinion, one of the most elegant and eloquent testaments to the pure cinematic beauty found in the work of this controversial and often confounding artist. 47 films spanning 50 years of filmmaking are channeled into a stream of images that attests to an inimitable talent: an artist who transforms the world simply by how he looks at it through a camera.

Essential Viewing: “Godardloop” Turns 50 Years of Cinema Into A Split-Screen Work of Art

Hmmmm...is our ever vigilant Spidey aware of this Godard Cornucopia?

[shadedpain4]

Originally Posted by Sinthetic

Thanks for the replies guys! Much appreciated.

What about the defective Seventh Seal and Howard's End that you mentioned Abdrewes? Were those isolated issues or widespread?

I had the exact same issue with 7th Seal at the exact same point of the film. I exchanged it at B&N however, and the new copy was fine.

[IronWaffle]

Originally Posted by Sinthetic

What Criterion discs are defective?

Three Colors Blue
Carlos

I've heard talk of Days of Heaven and the other 2 mentioned on this page. Can someone give me a heads up as I don't want to order something to have it defective.

I don't recall what the issue was, but Walkabout also had a replacement (I just finally got around to taking care of getting mine).

I didn't know about Seventh Seal. It's one of my first blus and I still haven't popped it in. Guess I know what I'm watching Monday night

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by joie

What do you think? Isn't The Criterion Collection the place where films go to die?

You mean heaven, or the Elephant's Graveyard?

If the latter, no, that's the Fox Triple Feature.

[retablo]

Originally Posted by colinrgeorge

It's a paper-thin veneer. I simply don't buy that a bunch of twenty-something engineers are going to be the ones to crack time travel. It rings completely false to me on a narrative level, doubly so because it's so painfully obvious the filmmaker was just casting himself and his buds.

Primer is the type of film that gets accolades precisely because people can say, "Did you know Primer was made for $7,000? Isn't that amazing?" while immediately forgiving it its obvious shortcomings.

It's also dense enough and has a smart enough head behind it that fans can ignore the lousy filmmaking and storytelling and focus on the big ideas. Like I said, Primer has some great ones. But I still think it's a clumsy, amateurish film at the end of the day.

If you're comparing it to student films with comparable budgets, sure it's top tier. But that's a pretty low bar.

Yet there are prodigies emerging everyday. So yeah, its certainly possible. A 20-year old invented the helicopter. While that's certainly not time travel, it's something that actually real. So you or anyone can't definitively say who or at what age someone will invent something.

You have much to learn about ow budget filmmaking. You keep coming back to the fact that he cast himself and Dallas-based actors... just because people aren't "famous" doesn't mean they aren't actors. Everyone starts somewhere. Ad when you only have $7,000, you do what you need to do to get the films made (much like John Sayles' Seacaucus Seven or Rodriguez' El Maricahi — both usec "friends" of the director for most of the major roles).

[Shout92]

Originally Posted by Sinthetic

I had something very strange with my "To Catch A Thief" Blu Ray, the sound would cut out in certain points on my player, but not on my PS3. It's so odd how things like that happen, I don't like it. But I prefer having something wrong with my player over my disc (that's weird right?).

I think I know what your talking about. Here at college, my friends and I primarily use a PS3. But for a brief time, and then back home, I've had to use an actual Blu-Ray player. It's on those that the sound cuts out at very brief moments (usually only once or twice per film).

[colinrgeorge]

Originally Posted by retablo

Yet there are prodigies emerging everyday. So yeah, its certainly possible. A 20-year old invented the helicopter. While that's certainly not time travel, it's something that actually real. So you or anyone can't definitively say who or at what age someone will invent something.

You have much to learn about ow budget filmmaking. You keep coming back to the fact that he cast himself and Dallas-based actors... just because people aren't "famous" doesn't mean they aren't actors. Everyone starts somewhere. Ad when you only have $7,000, you do what you need to do to get the films made (much like John Sayles' Seacaucus Seven or Rodriguez' El Maricahi — both usec "friends" of the director for most of the major roles).

Truth is stranger than fiction, etc. It's not impossible, I just don't buy it in the context of the story. What makes it worse is that the director cast himself and his friends for convenience's sake, not because there is a sound narrative or artistic reason for it.

You quote "famous" but I'm not sure I ever said that. My complaint has nothing to do with the fact that there are no celebrities in Primer. I've made low budget films, and seen scores of them running the full spectrum of quality.

I object to the director not hiring age-appropriate actors -- casting himself is especially lazy and says more about his ego than about the story he's trying to tell.

[octagon]

Heh, what's the appropriate age at which to stumble across the secret to time travel?

[colinrgeorge]

Originally Posted by octagon

heh, what's the appropriate age at which to stumble across the secret to time travel?

88.

[TheGoodBadUgly9]

Originally Posted by joie

I wrote something like, "Is The Criterion Collection the place where films go to die?"


Aren't there similarities between the "Criterion Treatment" and the funerary arts?

Preservation : Embalming
Restoration : Restoration
Case, artwork : Casket, makeup and funeral clothes
Booklet and Supplements : Obituary and Eulogy
The Collection : The Crypt
Release Announcements : Funeral Invitations

There are additional similarities: the inevitable familial squabbling over the artwork and cost, for example; The tendency to gloss over the deceased's faults. ...

Haha, I've never looked at it like that. If that's the case then I must be pretty morbid, because I get so much enjoyment from collecting dead things.

[DLizzle]

I'd posit that a young scientist/inventor is more likely to discover time travel than an older one who is more established and probably working on more realistic enterprises. I haven't seen Primer though, so maybe this doesn't apply.

[P@t_Mtl]

Holy wow! Time travel, funeral comparaison! What is going on in here? Cheer up everyone life is great!

[DLizzle]

Originally Posted by joie

I wrote something like, "Is The Criterion Collection the place where films go to die?"


Aren't there similarities between the "Criterion Treatment" and the funerary arts?

Preservation : Embalming
Restoration : Restoration
Case, artwork : Casket, makeup and funeral clothes
Booklet and Supplements : Obituary and Eulogy
The Collection : The Crypt
Release Announcements : Funeral Invitations

There are additional similarities: the inevitable familial squabbling over the artwork and cost, for example; The tendency to gloss over the deceased's faults. ...

The funerary arts are for the exclusive purpose of preparing something that has transferred into a new state (death) for its final presentation before being stashed away or destroyed forever. Since film's in the CC are generally transferred to a new state (format) on purpose, after being made prettier, and before being mass produced and shipped out to the public, I don't know if your analogy quite works.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by P@t_Mtl

Holy wow! Time travel, funeral comparaison! What is going on in here? Cheer up everyone life is great!

Sounds like somebody's wife really liked Titanic.

[octagon]

Originally Posted by DLizzle

I'd posit that a young scientist/inventor is more likely to discover time travel than an older one who is more established and probably working on more realistic enterprises. I haven't seen Primer though, so maybe this doesn't apply.

It applies. They basically stumbled over it while doing other 'proof of concept' research. Is that wildly implausible? I dunno, I didn't have any trouble with it.

Following the story was another matter entirely but that's not necessarily a bad thing.

[P@t_Mtl]

Originally Posted by octagon

Sounds like somebody's wife really liked Titanic.

Ok let me change the subjet and talk about prices. All three releases I want for June are all price at $40+ here in Canada. I think being so close to July and the possible sale at B&N I won't place the pre-orders and just wait for the sale

[Antonmassacre1]

Originally Posted by colinrgeorge

88.

Nice call McFly!

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by octagon

Heh, what's the appropriate age at which to stumble across the secret to time travel?

I want to do a sequel to Baby's Day Out and this time he goes back in time by crawling into a time machine that is owned by a mad scientist that will be played by Jean-Luc Godard. Back in time, the Baby meets his young grandfather, played wonderfully by Channing Tatum. Tatum and the Baby must stop Godard before his evil plans unfold. Hollywood, hit me up, I'll do it in 3D.

[Yami]

Originally Posted by SpiderBaby

I want to do a sequel to Baby's Day Out and this time he goes back in time by crawling into a time machine that is owned by a mad scientist that will be played by Jean-Luc Godard. Back in time, the Baby meets his young grandfather, played wonderfully by Channing Tatum. Tatum and the Baby must stop Godard before his evil plans unfold. Hollywood, hit me up, I'll do it in 3D.

Baby's Time Out?

[SpiderBaby]

Originally Posted by Yami

Baby's Time Out?

good title.