Prometheus Review Thread (Spoilers)

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

And then that is right when David say to him-

[Show spoiler]"Enjoy your trip."

Correct?

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First he agrees with

[Show spoiler]Weyland's statement with a "yes sir," then tells him to have a good journey (or something to that effect).

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

There still seems to be debate whether

[Show spoiler]the Trilobite is also the offspring of Shaw and contains her chromosomes as well. When Shaw removed the Trilobite from her abdomen, it had an amniotic sac and an umbilical cord meaning Shaw's body not only recognized it as a pregnancy but a viable pregnancy (most severely deformed fetuses result in miscarriage).

Surrogate mothers contribute nothing to the DNA of the child that they carry. But yes, all of this is still debatable and may or may not be answered in the follow-up (if there is one).

[csdot]

something to look for in an extended cut/deleted scene:

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[besi]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

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I have a question if someone could answer please.

In their last trip into the alien base, Shaw warns them not to take their helmets off as that could have been the reason for

[Show spoiler]Holloway's infection

. David then replys that in fact it was not. Shaw then asks David HOW HE KNOWS THAT?

I failed to catch David's response to that question back to Shaw.

Could someone tell me what it was?



Thanks

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only Weyland responds to that ,i think he said "smells fine to me" and gives David a "look".

[BouCoupDinkyDau]

Originally Posted by csdot

something to look for in an extended cut/deleted scene:

[Show spoiler]

I still say it looks like he's got a gun in that dude's back.
"You'll drink it and you'll like it!"

[besi]

trilobite,deacon concept

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[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Surrogate mothers contribute nothing to the DNA of the child that they carry. But yes, all of this is still debatable and may or may not be answered in the follow-up (if there is one).

I know that. But an embryo, or fertilized egg, still has to be implanted in the surrogate mother

[Show spoiler]which if we are to believe that Shaw isn't the biological mother, means that it wasn't Holloway's mutated s-p-e-r-m but rather a fully formed embryo he implanted in her when they had sex.

Either way, it's fun discussing and hearing the different speculations.

[besi]

fx shots

Prometheus fx shots - YouTube

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by BouCoupDinkyDau

Surrogate mothers contribute nothing to the DNA of the child that they carry. But yes, all of this is still debatable and may or may not be answered in the follow-up (if there is one).

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I know that. But an embryo, or fertilized egg, still has to be implanted in the surrogate mother

[Show spoiler]which if we are to believe that Shaw isn't the biological mother, means that it wasn't Holloway's mutated s-p-e-r-m but rather a fully formed embryo he implanted in her when they had sex.

Either way, it's fun discussing and hearing the different speculations.

Isn't this similar to what happened in the beginning of ALIEN RES?

Sorry to bring that one up.

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[Petra_Kalbrain]

It was good, but lacked gravitas. I just didn't feel satiated at the end. Too many questions left unanswered.

But man... was it pretty to look at!

3/5

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by besi

fx shots


Prometheus fx shots - YouTube

Thanks for posting that.

Which reminds me...the very next shot right after that showing another angle of the collision was really impressive on the big screen.

Sadly never to be duplicated on the much smaller home theater screens. But I guess that's what movie theaters are for.

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[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Duffy12

Isn't this similar to what happened in the beginning of ALIEN RES?

Sorry to bring that one up.

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What is this Alien Resurrection you speak of? Never heard of it.

But in all seriousness, Alien Resurrection makes absolutely no sense. At least with what Prometheus proposes there is some semblance of internal logic and scientific possibility as opposed to the pure fantasy that was Alien Resurrection.

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

There still seems to be debate whether

[Show spoiler]the Trilobite is also the offspring of Shaw and contains her chromosomes as well. When Shaw removed the Trilobite from her abdomen, it had an amniotic sac and an umbilical cord meaning Shaw's body not only recognized it as a pregnancy but a viable pregnancy (most severely deformed fetuses result in miscarriage). We know that Shaw believes she couldn't get pregnant, but without her explaining exactly WHY she believes she can't get pregnant, we don't know for sure. "Miracles" can and do happen especially if Shaw still has her ovaries in tact. The idea of a "miracle" (or in this cased "cursed") baby also plays into the quasireligious theme of the movie. Besides, I thought someone said that elements of Shaw were designed into the Deacon?

[Show spoiler]Kane, being male, was unable to birth a child, however it's theorized and stated that his DNA would of been present in the Xenomorph we see in Alien, so from a logical standpoint, I see no reason to believe Shaw's DNA wouldn't of been found in the Trilobite. Kane's embryo entered his body in a different way than Shaws, and even though the life cycle is different, everything we've been shown without speculation, points to gene splicing. From the original Alien, to the Hammerpedes, to the zombie guy.

[Aragorn the Elfstone]

Went for viewing #3 today (my second 3D viewing). Loving this movie more and more (though it definitely needs an extended cut - especially for the last 30 minutes, in which everything just goes by too fast). This movie, along with Hugo, is making me wish I had a 3D tv. I'm still going to buy the 3D version so that I'm future proofed on this title. The way Ridley shot this film is breathtaking.

[greg_achen]

Originally Posted by Grumpz

[Show spoiler]Kane, being male, was unable to birth a child, however it's theorized and stated that his DNA would of been present in the Xenomorph we see in Alien, so from a logical standpoint, I see no reason to believe Shaw's DNA wouldn't of been found in the Trilobite. Kane's embryo entered his body in a different way than Shaws, and even though the life cycle is different, everything we've been shown without speculation, points to gene splicing. From the original Alien, to the Hammerpedes, to the zombie guy.

I agree with you about the gene splicing however

[Show spoiler]unlike Kane, Shaw's body recognized the Trilobite as a legitimate pregnancy as evidenced by the amniotic sac and umbilical cord whereas Kane wasn't so much pregnant as he was a host for the parasitic xenomorph embryo. In order for Shaw's body to be pregnant in the literal sense, her body had to recognize the embryo as human. It's why you can't implant a dog embryo in a human female and expect it to develop. Her body would recognize it as foreign and subsequently abort it. However, Shaw's body did recognize the Trilobite as "human," at least genetically. The most obvious reason for this, in my mind, is that it was her egg that was fertilized by Holloway's infected s-p-e-r-m but as of right now that's just speculation on my part based on my understanding of the human reproductive system.

[besi]

prometheus vfx 2

Prometheus vfx 2 - YouTube

[besi]

prometheus vfx 3

Prometheus vfx 3 - YouTube

[Grumpz]

Originally Posted by greg_achen

I agree with you about the gene splicing however

[Show spoiler]unlike Kane, Shaw's body recognized the Trilobite as a legitimate pregnancy as evidenced by the amniotic sac and umbilical cord whereas Kane wasn't so much pregnant as he was a host for the parasitic xenomorph embryo. In order for Shaw's body to be pregnant in the literal sense, her body had to recognize the embryo as human. It's why you can't implant a dog embryo in a human female and expect it to develop. Her body would recognize it as foreign and subsequently abort it. However, Shaw's body did recognize the Trilobite as "human," at least genetically. The most obvious reason for this, in my mind, is that it was her egg that was fertilized by Holloway's infected s-p-e-r-m but as of right now that's just speculation on my part based on my understanding of the human reproductive system.

[Show spoiler]Yes and I agree, but all I was saying is no matter how it got their, the Trilobite would have Shaw's DNA.

[besi]

disintegration

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[besi]

placenta

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