The Legend of Korra

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by onyxbfly

Thanks for the heads up I'll deff catch it.

@Damageinc, I've never seen the complete collection listed for sale anywhere. I guess its safe to assume that the site you linked to is for the European market?

I wish they would release the complete collection here in the states....

For this price it most deff has to be a bootleg!!!!http://www.ioffer.com/i/avatar-last-...-dvd-510659664

Well, that's Play.com, but I'm not so sure where that company is based, but yes, probably the UK.
Although, for me, sitting in The Netherlands with my computer, it automatically shows me the price in Euros. So at least it's not limited to the UK.

What you showed there is definitely a bootleg, especially since I don't think there IS a complete collection.
But it's so typical that they show an image like that and not the actual product.

And also, the 3 Season-sets might also be out in the US, but again, I'm not sure.

Originally Posted by Rambaldi47

The show looks amazing on Nick HD. It DEMANDS a blu-ray release! I think the show is so good and is a great sequel series to The Last Airbender (which I wish would come out on blu!) My only criticism is that the plan for the series is to only have 24 episodes! I know it was originally 12, so we're lucky to even get 24, but I wish it could last longer.

Well, the second season is already up to 14 episodes, so it would be at least 26.
But I doubt it will only be two seasons, as they call each season a certain "book", being one book per element.
And as there were 3 done for Aang's series, I doubt it would be less for Korra.
I mean, they seem to follow the same concept quite closely, and 26 fairly short episodes seems a bit insufficient to tell a story of this scale.
I've watched the episodes that are available and I have a hard time seeing them blow through the rest of the story in 17 more episodes.
Especially since with Aang they did it in SIXTY-ONE episodes.

An interesting thing, however, is that the Seasons or "Books" of Aang's series were called 'Water', 'Earth' and 'Fire'.
Then for Korra, the first Season or "Book" is 'Air'. Which of course all has to do with what bending they had to learn.
So... and maybe I should put a spoiler-tag here, actually I better, since they seem to be excluding the other elements,
unless they're doing it in a different order,

[Show spoiler]maybe the next Seasons would be 'Metal' and 'Blood'

?
And I'm exciting myself cause I just basically made this up on the spot. But it's very likely seeing what's going on in the latest episodes.
Would be freaking awesome though, cause that could give a similar effect to when they showed what Aang was capable of.

[nametag]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

Well, the second season is already up to 14 episodes, so it would be at least 26.
But I doubt it will only be two seasons, as they call each season a certain "book", being one book per element.
And as there were 3 done for Aang's series, I doubt it would be less for Korra.
I mean, they seem to follow the same concept quite closely, and 26 fairly short episodes seems a bit insufficient to tell a story of this scale.
I've watched the episodes that are available and I have a hard time seeing them blow through the rest of the story in 17 more episodes.
Especially since with Aang they did it in SIXTY-ONE episodes.

I'm not sure Korra will have more seasons/episodes than the 26 currently slated. I mean, it seems like the writers plan things out quite well and have this set end date to tell their story.

Excited by the new Complete Series set of Avatar though. I think an upscale to HD could look good (like The Simpsons pre-season 20), but I doubt will ever happen. But I much prefer to get complete sets for series which have finished, so I might get it on DVD anyway. My partner has the individual sets but I don't have any myself.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by nametag

I'm not sure Korra will have more seasons/episodes than the 26 currently slated. I mean, it seems like the writers plan things out quite well and have this set end date to tell their story.

Well, I was just thinking that maybe it simply isn't announced yet. Maybe they're not sure if they'll already end it with Season 2.
And, again, it just seems too short to be over by then already. I think it would simplify the story a lot, unless they cram a lot of details into each episode.
The "Aang"-series seemed like a very complex and long journey, and if "Korra" would be even half or two-third of that,
having only a third or not even half the amount of episodes that "Avatar" had just seems too little.

So, that's just how I figure it. It could well be that it ends at Episode 26, but it wouldn't be for the better I'm afraid...
Unless it really is quite a short and simple story, basically building up to a battle and that's that, but I'm hoping there's more to it.

[Wyndam]

Today's episode was amazing! Holy cow I love this show.

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Wyndam

Today's episode was amazing! Holy cow I love this show.

I've just finished watching it. It was a pretty great episode.
The voice of that General at the end was a bit too familiar, no?
It sounded too young compared to the look of the man, but myeah...

I did notice how quickly they go through events and all that though. Like, for example, how Tenzin was already speaking of Amon

[Show spoiler]"starting his end-game"

.
So I fear it might indeed only be 26 Episodes, but it already feels rushed. -_-

Also, I hate that spoiler-infested trailer (about the "season finale"?) they throw into your face right after each episode.
It shows the Aang-statue

[Show spoiler]wearing Amon's mask

for crying out loud!

The expressions on the faces of the characters though, especially this episode. Pema in the kitchen, when she walks away. Meelo in slow-motion.
Frickin' hilarious! XD

[Asuras]

It appears that each season will have a standalone arc/villain. So Amon and the Equalist might be all dealt with in the season finale:

http://www.toonzone.net/news/article...gend-of-korra/

"MICHAEL DIMARTINO: Book 1 was always going to be 12 episodes. When we started writing, we didn't know if we would do more beyond that. Unlike the original series which had a three season arc, we designed "Korra" so that each season had it's own villain and clear resolution, so they are more stand-alone seasons. Although there are definitely arcs that carry over from Book 1 to Book 2."

[Damage Inc.]

Originally Posted by Asuras

It appears that each season will have a standalone arc/villain. So Amon and the Equalist might be all dealt with in the season finale:

http://www.toonzone.net/news/article...gend-of-korra/

Aha! Thanks, that clears things up.
But that's an interesting concept. So I guess the whole series could even be an infinite length
until they run out of ideas for new villains or ways to move to the next. lol

But, having seen yesterday's episode, and the ending, I'm pretty sure I know what element the next book will represent;

[Show spoiler]Fire!

Unlike the

[Show spoiler]Metal and Blood

which I figured at first. Which would've been awesome in a freaky way, but it might still be a possibility.

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by Damage Inc.

So... and maybe I should put a spoiler-tag here, actually I better, since they seem to be excluding the other elements,
unless they're doing it in a different order,

[Show spoiler]maybe the next Seasons would be 'Metal' and 'Blood'

?

[Show spoiler]Katara learned how to capably bloodbend what was presumably the only master bloodbender at the time immediately after learning that such a thing was possible. Devoting an entire season to a technique that Katara seemed to master instantly would be silly. As for metal, Toph discovered it in one episode toward the end of Book 3, easily used it in the next without a second thought, and then apparently mastered it offscreen during the next season such that she was able to metalbend herself a set of armor during the finale in Book 3. If Toph could get that level of mastery so quickly and/or off-screen without any interesting developments, I don't think they could stretch that out to be a full "element" that Korra needs to learn. Metalbending and bloodbending, after all, are really just waterbending and earthbending, two elements she's already considered a master of (even if she's not proficient at specialized forms).

I think it's far more likely that the "Air" Book is going to keep going after the season finale. It's called Air, and although she's been taught the philosophy of airbending, she's never actually done any yet. Very, very strange. Aang firebended the first time he tried, he waterbended quickly, he earthbended after only like one episode of having trouble doing it for the first time. Korra was firebending, waterbending, and earthbending as a toddler. It seems so odd that an Avatar would be so unable to bend one of the elements for so long after trying so hard. But I digress. Point is: she still hasn't airbended AT ALL, so ending the Book called "Air" makes no sense at all. Aang wasn't a master waterbender at the end of his Water Book, but he had at least ACTUALLY DONE IT and was moving on to begin learning the next element. Sure, Korra is already on her final element, but whatever. Point still stands: she's not yet airbended even a little.

Originally Posted by nametag

I'm not sure Korra will have more seasons/episodes than the 26 currently slated. I mean, it seems like the writers plan things out quite well and have this set end date to tell their story.

There's always more story that could be told. Aang's journey to stop the Firelord was relatively well-planned out, but they've gone on to tell more stories with Aang, both in this show and in the inter-quel comic series The Promise. If Nick wanted to order more episodes with Korra, I bet they could come up with new stories for her. I also wouldn't be surprised to see them jump to stories with another Avatar though or maybe another story set in the same universe that doesn't actually have the Avatar as the star of the show.

Re: Amon's bending removal:

[Show spoiler]In the era before the Avatar, people bent the spirit energy inside their own body. There was no elemental bending. It stands to reason that people are still capable of the feat even though no one knows how to do it. The technique that Aang used in the finale of The Last Airbender was this energybending, and the way Amon removes bending is remarkably similar. There is, however, a difference. Aang touches the forehead and the heart, Amon touches the forehead and the back of the neck. Aang touches a pressure point representing compassion and humanity, Amon touches a deadly pressure point in the back of the neck that, in the real world, is called "Amon".

I'm not sure how he learned to do it, but it is my opinion that Amon is energybending somehow. We know that the knowledge can be manually imparted THROUGH energybending as this is how Aang learned it. Perhaps Amon learned it from Aang? Or someone that Aang taught it to? And Tenzin just didn't know that Aang had taught people how to do it and had assumed that it was an Avatar skill exclusively even though it is known that the people in the era before the Avatar did it.

Wait. Idea. Yakone learned energybending accidentally when Aang de-bended him. Yakone spent the rest of his days hating benders because they could do something he could no longer do. So he started using his accidental gift to take away abilities. This makes sense to me, because the flashbacks to Yakone on trial APPEARED to be relevant to the season-long arc, but then it appeared that they tied up the loose ends when Tarlok was de-bended by Amon. But I think it's possible they're still relevant to the season-long arc. And that's the only way I can figure that they're connected: Amon is ALSO connected to Yakone.

[kimonoko]

Indeed, the seasons are pretty standalone - it's a result of their initial plotline getting extended because Nick wanted more episodes

On the bright side, that means next season may not be the lest since they have no particular finale to the series in mind.

Anyway, this is hands-down the best animated franchise I've ever had the pleasure of watching; ever since Book 1: Water, from A:TLA to A:TLOK, I've been obsessed.

And being a Blu-ray.com frequenter, I'm addicted to Blu-ray. That there hasn't been a properly transferred Blu-ray release for the most intricate animated show ever made is stunning to me - but perhaps with Korra likely getting a release since it's airing in HD, it'll spur Nick/Viacom into taking the plunge for a Blu-ray complete set of A:TLA.

Nothing would make me happier.

[s1m0n]

unfortunately avatar the last airbender : legend of aang , was not created for hd viewing and even a upscale version would not give you any benefit and would only be in 4:3 .

Saying that the DVD version are excellent and well worth the purchase.

Ive been watching the current season on itunes in HD which is very nice Korra kicks a$$ and i hope a bluray version comes out very soon

Does anyone know when book two will be showing ?

[kimonoko]

I know it was created in 1.33:1 in SD, and I don't mind that at all... Plenty of older shows were aired in the same way and have made it to Blu-ray in more or less good shape (FLCL, for example). I know it'd take some effort on their part, but I'd be eternally grateful.

And as for the DVDs, I hear they have a lot of issues with DNR and interlacing.

[s1m0n]

Originally Posted by kimonoko

I know it was created in 1.33:1 in SD, and I don't mind that at all... Plenty of older shows were aired in the same way and have made it to Blu-ray in more or less good shape (FLCL, for example). I know it'd take some effort on their part, but I'd be eternally grateful.

And as for the DVDs, I hear they have a lot of issues with DNR and interlacing.

First season can be bad depending on your blu-ray player but the rest are fine , well I have not had any problems only season 1 hadnoticble interlacing.

If the company had the original cells etc, they could digitise and let the computer do its job and re create the animation at a higher resolution thrn maybe its possible but I remember my friend who went to comicon and managed to ask the question and from what i gather there was no plans, I hope my friend was wrong as I would love them on bluray as they would go nice with my collection

[Afrobean]

Originally Posted by s1m0n

If the company had the original cells etc, they could digitise and let the computer do its job and re create the animation at a higher resolution

It's not that simple.

Some animation software works with vectors. But, unless I'm mistaken, most high-end animation uses raster images.

Read:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
Read: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raster_graphics

There's also 3D animation. Like vector graphics, the software can re-render the 3D frame in potentially higher resolutions. This is how Toy Story was released in a higher resolution after the original render was less than HD. This is how the staff behind South Park could go back to the old episodes and update them to HD. Yeah, South Park counts as "3D animation" because of the software they use to simulate the construction paper cutouts.

For "flat" animation, "2-D" stuff, however, it's not that simple. Some shows are animated using programs like Adobe Flash. Yes. Adobe Flash. The same thing Homestar Runner runs on. It uses vectors generally and it can be re-rendered at higher resolutions. For example, Harvey Birdman Attorney at Law on Adult Swim was animated in Flash. In fact, much of Adult Swim's original material is like this. If they wanted to invest the resources, they could pull up the digital files and re-render it at 1080p.

But most modern traditional animation that's known for quality isn't like that. Although SOME quality animation software supports vectors, it's not widely used. Generally, the hand-drawn images are saved in the computer as raster graphics. While vectors can be upscaled and the lines still look smooth, zooming in on the raster art would result in visible pixels and lines that previously looked smooth will then appear as stairs. This can be mitigated with good upscaling technique (FLCL and the first half of Season 20 of The Simpsons are examples), but it never looks as good as if the lines had just been drawn at that resolution in the first place and complex textures just never look anywhere near as good.

There's also the case of cel animation. Cels are basically no longer used since it's all digital inside the computer, but older animation was shot on cels and recorded to film. For a new HD version of that material, they just need to collect the film masters and rescan them. This has happened with plenty of Disney movies, obviously, but it's also happened with the entire series of Dragon Ball Z, so the possibility is there for TV material as well. I know people are itching to see the 90s Batman and Superman cartoons on BD. They don't need to still have the cels, and in fact, studios don't even save the cels. I believe that they're generally destroyed, sold, or given away after completion of the animation. A few might be saved for archives, but they couldn't go into the archives and recompile an episode from the cels they happen to have lying around. When an old animation is remastered, they don't "go back to the cels". The cels simply don't exist anymore. They take up too much space and the studios have no reason to hold on to every single cel. Of course, this last paragraph has nothing to do with The Last Airbender OR Legend of Korra as both were animated completely digitally, but whatever, I felt like I should say something about it.

Anyway, a BD of The Last Airbender would deliver a better picture by virtue of the fact that the DVDs are pretty bad. The show wasn't mixed in 5.1 or anything as far as I know, so we probably wouldn't get surround mix or discrete LFE, but a 2.0 lossless audio track could be nice. They could also take the opportunity to pack in extras, like the pop-up facts that sometimes aired on Nickelodeon during episodes or maybe a preview of Legend of Korra.