Twilight Time Discussion Thread

[dsman71]

Im passing on all of these which means Im free from buying any TT titles for the rest of the year !
Well maybe NOTLD 1990 but ...who knows

[rkolinski]

Instead of "The Rains of Ranchipur" they should have released "Prince of Players," a Richard Burton film I would love to see on BD. Thrilled about owning "Bonjour Tristesse" on BD; "Beloved Infidel" I'll have to think about owning that one. The other two releases; no thank you!

[HyperRealist]

The cheapest place to buy Eureka BDs was direct from them. I think they still have free international shipping. I bought like 15 BDs from there once. Still haven't watched PV.
http://eurekavideo.co.uk/offers/BD.html

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

The Blue Lagoon (1980) BLU-RAY - Dec 11th - It probably will look lovely, but as a movie, I can't say anything about it has become so seared into my consciousness that I'm compelled to watch it again.

I'd thought this was on Sony's list of back-catalog "once-hit" favorites that we were sure to see from the studio, but...guess I was wrong.
(It's still pretty silly, even if you haven't already seen the parody from the Zuckers' "Top Secret".)

Lost Horizon (1973) BLU-RAY - Dec 11th - One of those curiosities that cuts two ways...on the one hand, I'm glad to finally see it (I ignored it theatrically, which wasn't hard because it came and went so fast), but it doesn't have the most glowing rep either. Like others here, I wish TT had done the Capra version instead.

The Capra version's got the Fancy TCM-style Studio Restoration, so we're more likely to see that from the studio.

The 70's version isn't really as silly as the Golden Turkeys make it out to be--More just the kind of annoying you'd picture if I said "Burt Bachrach musical".
Couldn't hold out, and dug it up on YouTube before the Archives got their hands on it: More amiable and forgettable, but nice to see it rescued from the Warner/Sony MOD Dog Pound.

Lost Horizon - The things i will not miss - YouTube

(I can't help it, I have an affectionate historical fondness for disastrously overbudgeted post-"Sound of Music" spectaculars from the late-60's to mid-70's....Even if "The Wiz" did kill them off.)

[Blu Titan]

Ill get NOTLD along with Those Magnificent Men...nothing else announced for the rest of the year interest me. Blue Lagoon for $30? How about releasing a classic action or war movie?

[Dubstar]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Ill get NOTLD along with Those Magnificent Men...nothing else announced for the rest of the year interest me. Blue Lagoon for $30? How about releasing a classic action or war movie?

or another Sony musical - say like 'Oliver!'

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by Seymour

That's interesting that TT is releasing two Sony blu-rays in December. Pity that neither of them look very good. I mean, what's the deal with The Blue Lagoon? I read that Brooke Shields was only 14 when she filmed it, and any nude scenes were body doubles. But isn't it kind of pervy, regardless? Why couldn't they cast somebody that was at least 18, so the pervs (like me ) wouldn't feel so gross watching it?

Can't speak for WHY they made it... (Apart from being able to get away with a topless prepubescent Brooke in "Pretty Baby" two years earlier.)
But Columbia was selling the "tween romance" angle at the time, and tried to get around the 1980 R rating by taking out ads selling parents that taking their kids under the rating was showing them a tasteful film about puberty.
As Roger Ebert commented on the campaign, "If I was twelve, I would have killed to have seen this movie... "

[Seymour]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Can't speak for WHY they made it... (Apart from being able to get away with a topless prepubescent Brooke in "Pretty Baby" two years earlier.)
But Columbia was selling the "tween romance" angle at the time, and tried to get around the 1980 R rating by taking out ads selling parents that taking their kids under the rating was showing them a tasteful film about puberty.
As Roger Ebert commented on the campaign, "If I was twelve, I would have killed to have seen this movie... "

Yeah, I just don't see the appeal. A 14 year old girl stranded on an island, who finds her sexual awakening with some other fruitcake kid? This seems like the kind of movie that would only appeal to weirdos. Only in the '80s...

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by EricJ

As Roger Ebert commented on the campaign, "If I was twelve, I would have killed to have seen this movie... "

(Although, by the end, it does come off like one of those movies Bart and Milhouse would've sneaked into...)

Originally Posted by Seymour

Yeah, I just don't see the appeal. A 14 year old girl stranded on an island, who finds her sexual awakening with some other fruitcake kid? This seems like the kind of movie that would only appeal to weirdos. Only in the '80s...

Well, in '80--It was still the end of the 70's, you know.
Randall Kleiser had just come off of "Grease", and was considered the reigning god of Teen Romance Box-Office...Until "Summer Lovers" sent him over the cliff two years later, of course.

Nowadays, Blue Lagoon is remembered more for winning its lawsuit against "Paradise" than anything else.
(And what, you didn't see the '91 sequel with Milla Jovavich in the Brooke role?)

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by EricJ

I'd thought this was on Sony's list of back-catalog "once-hit" favorites that we were sure to see from the studio, but...guess I was wrong.
(It's still pretty silly, even if you haven't already seen the parody from the Zuckers' "Top Secret".)

Here's another As Good As It Gets, Fright Night, or Steel Magnolias...a not so 'vintage' release, formerly a home video staple, which is sure to result in one of those threads...

To me, The Blue Lagoon is merely a mundane choice, not worth the loss of a TT release slot...even in a month with three.

Originally Posted by EricJ

The Capra version's got the Fancy TCM-style Studio Restoration, so we're more likely to see that from the studio.

Sony must be sitting on the fence with Capra's Lost Horizon, as well as the Capra films in general EricJ. But with only a couple of vintage catalogue titles on their schedule for the rest of the year, one of them being Lawrence of Arabia, and the other being Annie, they aren't exactly busting loose with catalogue product... So who knows anymore?

Originally Posted by EricJ

The 70's version isn't really as silly as the Golden Turkeys make it out to be--More just the kind of annoying you'd picture if I said "Burt Bachrach musical".
Couldn't hold out, and dug it up on YouTube before the Archives got their hands on it: More amiable and forgettable, but nice to see it rescued from the Warner/Sony MOD Dog Pound.

[Show spoiler]Lost Horizon - The things i will not miss - YouTube

(I can't help it, I have an affectionate historical fondness for disastrously overbudgeted post-"Sound of Music" spectaculars from the late-60's to mid-70's....Even if "The Wiz" did kill them off.)

But as previously mentioned, why not Oliver! or 1776 from Sony, or Star!, Dr. Doolittle or Hello Dolly from Fox? Are these studios really holding onto such titles for Blu-ray releases themselves? Not much evidence of interest so far*...

I have to admit though, the clip you posted from Lost Horizon intrigued me...although not in a 100% wholesome way. Actually, I'd forgot how wonky the casting was in that thing! Quick show of hands, "How many here would immediately think of Sally Kellerman, Olivia Hussey, Liv Ullman, or Peter Finch for a 'musical comedy'???" I have a hard enough time picturing them on the same planet, much less the same movie set.

How bizzare. I might be 'entertained' by this disc after all!

* Other than Fox springing for 8k Fotokem scans of all three titles.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by rkolinski

Instead of "The Rains of Ranchipur" they should have released "Prince of Players," a Richard Burton film I would love to see on BD. Thrilled about owning "Bonjour Tristesse" on BD; "Beloved Infidel" I'll have to think about owning that one. The other two releases; no thank you!

I still think we'll see Prince of Players sometime next year rkolinski (assuming good elements still exist), especially since it features a Bernard Herrmann score.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by Banned User

I guess I'm in the minority. I didn't mind The Wayward Bus one bit.

Me either Banned User. In fact, I watched it twice, the second time just to enjoy the candid and interesting background commentary.

[CinemaScope]

Originally Posted by ROclockCK

The Rains of Ranchipur (1955) BLU-RAY - Nov 13th - Well, speak of the Devil! Glad to see that idle wish finally come true.

Ha, you didn't have to wait long! This film is a very guilty pleasure of mine (very guilty), I'll wait & see how this & the German release stack up, but I might well end up buying the TT. I buy so few Blu's these days that a few extra pounds is neither here nor there.

[DetroitSportsFan]

Originally Posted by Blu Titan

Ill get NOTLD along with Those Magnificent Men...nothing else announced for the rest of the year interest me.

Have you seen Enemy Mine? I think you would enjoy it. I'll be ordering it along with NOTLD.

[ROclockCK]

Originally Posted by CinemaScope

Ha, you didn't have to wait long! This film is a very guilty pleasure of mine (very guilty), I'll wait & see how this & the German release stack up, but I might well end up buying the TT. I buy so few Blu's these days that a few extra pounds is neither here nor there.

With the German Fox release arriving so close to TT's, it will be interesting to see how closely they match in terms of source elements and production quality CinemaScope. I suspect it's the same master, but with Fox titles, you just never know...

[JMK]

There's actually quite a bit to like in the Bacharach-David LOST HORIZON, which is not to say there isn't quite a bit that's jaw droppingly awful as well. I posted here when the DVD-MOD was released, as I was gobsmacked to have that (which looked fantastic, by the way--the Blu-ray should be magnificent). I have a message into Nick Redman to see if the supplements on that release will be on the BD.

[Blu Titan]

Originally Posted by DetroitSportsFan

Have you seen Enemy Mine? I think you would enjoy it. I'll be ordering it along with NOTLD.

I might consider that one. I watched it a very long time ago and remember thinking that it was a very good movie. Mostly just the two characters until the very end, but a nice story.

[whitesheik]

Originally Posted by EricJ

(Although, by the end, it does come off like one of those movies Bart and Milhouse would've sneaked into...)



Well, in '80--It was still the end of the 70's, you know.
Randall Kleiser had just come off of "Grease", and was considered the reigning god of Teen Romance Box-Office...Until "Summer Lovers" sent him over the cliff two years later, of course.

Nowadays, Blue Lagoon is remembered more for winning its lawsuit against "Paradise" than anything else.
(And what, you didn't see the '91 sequel with Milla Jovavich in the Brooke role?)

The Blue Lagoon was based on a book written in 1908. Hardly a new story that had much to do with the 70s or 80s - in fact, it had been filmed twice before. And exactly what is perverted about two young people finding their sexuality. Or is the perv part people watching that?

[Cinemave]

I've been very pleased with TT releases, although I'm too cheap to buy any beyond The Egyptian and Magnificent Men. I'm keeping an eye out for any additional 70mm epics they may release.

[Blu Titan]

Please do not come to this thread to troll. Thank you.