New Disney titles for 2012 (Rescuers Aristocats Pocahontas etc.) !

[anthonyb]

Originally Posted by disneyfreak

What I find the most surprising about the release of Hunchback and Hercules is, if Disney does release them in the us all of the Renaissance movies will be released by next year , which are their most popular movies. You would think they would space them out.

Never though of Herc or Hunchback as top-sellers, and I suppose their DVD treatments can attest to that. When did that happen, did sales hike overnight or something?

[zoodermin]

Originally Posted by anthonyb

Never though of Herc or Hunchback as top-sellers, and I suppose their DVD treatments can attest to that. When did that happen, did sales hike overnight or something?

Well, they were pretty successful at the box office:
(Courtesy of Box Office Mojo)

The Hunchback of Notre Dame (Budget: $100 million):

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $100,138,851 30.8%
+ Foreign: $225,200,000 69.2%
= Worldwide: $325,338,851

Hercules (Budget: $85 million):

Total Lifetime Grosses
Domestic: $99,112,101 39.2%
+ Foreign: $153,600,000 60.8%
= Worldwide: $252,712,10

Frankly, I never understood why these two films never got a DVD reissue when many much more obscure and less successful films got them (The Aristocats, The Sword in the Stone, Saludos Amigos/The Three Caballeros, Robin Hood, etc.). True, they weren't as successful as The Lion King but they recouped their budgets, were not box office bombs, have positive responses from the audience and critics and were nominated for awards. I really have waited to upgrade both films and the new BD editions can't come soon enough.

[zafisher94]

So did anyone see the press release for Disney's 3rd quarter earnings? They cited home entertainment as an offset to the studios revenues. I wonder if this is why they've cut back on details (stacking discs, no disc art, no inside cover art, virtual vault, ect.) and why they're releasing so many titles so quickly. I hope they improve for the sake of physical media.

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by anthonyb

Never though of Herc or Hunchback as top-sellers, and I suppose their DVD treatments can attest to that. When did that happen, did sales hike overnight or something?

Neither are by no means top-sellers, but they are part of the most popular Disney period, The Disney Renaissance, which all of the movies in that period are pretty well known. By releasing the two titles all of disney's renaissance movies would be released next year. Just a observation.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by zafisher94

So did anyone see the press release for Disney's 3rd quarter earnings? They cited home entertainment as an offset to the studios revenues. I wonder if this is why they've cut back on details (stacking discs, no disc art, no inside cover art, virtual vault, ect.) and why they're releasing so many titles so quickly. I hope they improve for the sake of physical media.

That kind of makes sense, hopefully they'll pick themselves up after christmas

[Lnds500]

I am watching the Rescuers right now and I think the restoration is great. Not perfect, from the little I'm seen there are some soft sorts and there is a noticeable hiss but overall it's pretty good!

I'm about to check the Rescuers Down Under and might actually do another comparison between the old DVDs and the Blu-ray

[14731779]

In cas anyone wants a "Fox and the Hound: 2 movie collection " DMR code, here it goes:

PL97J38X2TE

[BackQuack]

Originally Posted by 14731779

In cas anyone wants a "Fox and the Hound: 2 movie collection " DMR code, here it goes:

PL97J38X2TE

Used. Thank you, greatly appreciated.

[14731779]

Originally Posted by BackQuack

Used. Thank you, greatly appreciated.

Your welcome

[bookcase]

Originally Posted by zoodermin

Moviemet.com has post a review for Pocahontas/Pocahontas 2:

http://moviemet.com/review/pocahonta...ii-journey-new

I stopped reading when they said it wasn't an A-movie and called it second-teir. I disagree.

[thegoat]

Originally Posted by CB0967

I think it's stupid that the Blu-Ray / DVD combo packs in DVD packaging are $5 more expensive.

I have Bambi, Beauty And The Beast, Lady And The Tramp, Lion King, Pirates Of The Caribbean: On Stranger Tides, and Snow White in the DVD packaging, so I feel obligated to get these new five, on top of Bambi 2, Beauty And The Beast 2, Dumbo, Fox & The Hound, Lion King 1.5, and Lion King 2 in DVD packaging.

Agreed, it makes no sense. But if you can wait, DVD packaging becomes much cheaper after a short while. I'll be getting Pocahontas/Rescuers Day 1 because the coupon price was just too good to pass up, and I love those films. In general though, I wait a little bit and often get the DVD packaging for a huge discount. And I do prefer the silver lining on the Diamond releases.

Cars 1 + 2 and Toy Story 1 + 2 I got for ~$10 each while their Blu-ray packaging counterparts ran for $20+ even used. Bambi, Dumbo, and Lion King for $9 each, Lady and the Tramp for $15 (only a few days after release). All either brand new or mint condition with slipcovers from third party sellers. So some patience can pay off if you want that packaging. I'll be hunting for Cinderella soon...

[Scottie]

I'll probably just end up buying them in the DVD packaging and bring it back to Best Buy to get the price adjustment

[zoodermin]

Originally Posted by bookcase

I stopped reading when they said it wasn't an A-movie and called it second-teir. I disagree.

I disagree with the review too. Pocahontas is wonderful and not at all second-tier and he also says that Pocahontas 2 is not that bad when in fact is horrible. After I read that I just went forward to the technical specs and bonus material. I hope the review from this site is uploaded soon.

[femogan]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

I am watching the Rescuers right now and I think the restoration is great. Not perfect, from the little I'm seen there are some soft sorts and there is a noticeable hiss but overall it's pretty good!

I'm about to check the Rescuers Down Under and might actually do another comparison between the old DVDs and the Blu-ray

Awesome! Is it the US release? If possible, could you post some pictures from the package and confirm what trailers are included in this release? Thanks!

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by bookcase

I stopped reading when they said it wasn't an A-movie and called it second-teir. I disagree.

Well, I wish you luck with trying to change reality with the power of your mind , but Pocahontas wasn't an A-movie in the 90's, neither in critical or box-office terms.
It wasn't considered a flop in theaters--yet--since the other two in the "trilogy" hadn't happened, but was considered a "noble failure" of an attempt at a visually serious movie that was sabotaged by musical-formula tropes, its unmarketability to kids, and studio crossover issues (ie. trying to sell the Virginia park).

So, it never got the Platinum status, and was considered the first "Troubled" film of '95-'05 (breaking the Lion King's string brought heavy punishment), but the character's popularity with the little girls kept it out of 00's exile. And yes, the sequel was pretty foul.

[PuppyJonathan]

Originally Posted by bookcase

I stopped reading when they said it wasn't an A-movie and called it second-teir. I disagree.

Yeah, well everyone has different views. It wasn't a biased review though

[rljnunez]

Originally Posted by thegoat

I'll be getting Pocahontas/Rescuers Day 1 because the coupon price was just too good to pass up

What coupons are you referring to..?

[zoodermin]

Home Theater Forum has post a review for The Aristocats:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/32...blu-ray-review

The reviewer gives the video transfer a 4.5/5 grade so it can't look as bad as previously reported, right?

Also, according to the review, there are not new trailers, just the ones we've already seen before.

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by zoodermin

Home Theater Forum has post a review for The Aristocats:

http://www.hometheaterforum.com/t/32...blu-ray-review

The reviewer gives the video transfer a 4.5/5 grade so it can't look as bad as previously reported, right?

Also, according to the review, there are not new trailers, just the ones we've already seen before.

Nobody said it was terrible. Nobody.

And that site is awful. They gave Home on the Range 5/5 , they never mention any issues apparently, I wonder even if they take the time to actually watch the films they review.


I bet this site will give it from 3,5-4, depending on how forgiving they are willing to b and whether or not they are gonna compare it to The Rescuers restoration

[zoodermin]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

Nobody said it was terrible. Nobody.

And that site is awful. They gave Home on the Range 5/5 , they never mention any issues apparently, I wonder even if they take the time to actually watch the films they review.


I bet this site will give it from 3,5-4, depending on how forgiving they are willing to b and whether or not they are gonna compare it to The Rescuers restoration

From scorpiontail60 in The Aristocats forum:

"Well, Disney blew it. I cannot believe how badly they butchered this title with DNR. Their DNR jobs on their previous classics was well done. This time it was a disaster.

Here's ten comparisons of the Blu-ray with the HDTV broadcast:

http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/900
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/901
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/902
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/903
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/904
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/905
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/906
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/907
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/908
http://imgc.rauch.co.uk/909

You can see all detail has been stripped away. This is easily Disney's worst looking Blu-ray release yet. From The Fox and The Hound, Tarzan, and now this, something has happened at Disney's Blu-ray mastering department and it's not good.

I've canceled my pre-order. This is seriously disappointing that I'm now going to have a gap in my collection of Disney classics."

So here is someone

No seriously, I also don't trust Home Theater Forum but since is the first review that have arrived I think is good we read it to compare it with this site's review when it arrives in the following days.