ParaNorman 3D Blu-ray (2012) [Region Free]

[Gae]

Thanks for the reviews guys.

With regards the 3D, I really wish studios would either do the 3D properly (and get a proper stereographer involved in the shoot) or else just shoot the film in 2D.

Gae

[keb33509]

Look up the process on how they shot ParaNorman. It was a long process. They used Canon DSLRs and they had a mount that would swivel back and forth between each shot to take the left and right eye captures. Stop animation is not easy to work with. I think their 3D in both Coraline and this is extraordinary for the technological boundaries they had to go around.

[joenostalgia23]

I saw it yesterday and I really really liked the film.

As far as the 3D went, it was very subtle. But I think 3D is great for films like this and Coraline because they really help you appreciate the textures and sculpting that goes into the models.
It rarely has things stabbing into your eyes, but it's very natural.

As far as trailers went, Life of Pi had exceptional 3D!
IMO, the trailer for Life of Pi looked better than all of Paranorman and the rest of the trailers. The image was very bright and colorful, the shots and angles were very creative, especially for 3D. There's a lot of depth and dimensionality and a bit of pop-out as well... but none of the shots ever look gimmicky for 3D. I thought the trailer for Life of Pi looked even better than The Hobbit's.
I don't know what sort of theater Ziouhr went to, but I'm surprised that he wasn't impressed. Then again, we've disagreed about 3D in the past(I personally consider Coraline and Tron: Legacy to be two of the best 3D Blu-rays). no offence.

[atomik kinder]

I was watching a short thing about this movie on FearNet, I think it was, and the director was saying they "printed" the characters. Does anyone have any idea of what he was talking about? He was particularly talking about the faces of them. I think they actually used replaceable faces, as in Nightmare before Christmas with Sally and Jack instead of mechanical heads with moveable features like the ones in Corpse Bride. It had something to do with the freckles and features on the faces and how everything was on the faces in the exact same spot on every replacement.
I know this has nothing to do with the 3D discussion, but I find stop motion animation interesting, much more so than CG animation, especially since they have to physically make everything.

[Paul H]

Originally Posted by atomik kinder

I was watching a short thing about this movie on FearNet, I think it was, and the director was saying they "printed" the characters. Does anyone have any idea of what he was talking about? He was particularly talking about the faces of them. I think they actually used replaceable faces, as in Nightmare before Christmas with Sally and Jack instead of mechanical heads with moveable features like the ones in Corpse Bride. It had something to do with the freckles and features on the faces and how everything was on the faces in the exact same spot on every replacement.
I know this has nothing to do with the 3D discussion, but I find stop motion animation interesting, much more so than CG animation, especially since they have to physically make everything.

If and when you see the movie, stay in your seat until the credits are finished and it will show you in a quick segment with time-laps photography how the mechanics are put together. Don't remember seeing replaceable features, but I wasn't looking for it. There was a lot to take in showing interesting pictures about physically making a character.

Paul

[Zivouhr]

For a stop motion animated film, Paranorman has probably the smoothest, most fluid animation I've ever seen in this style. Incredible. Stamped on the faces might refer to when then have a plug in and insert different interchangeable faces for different mouths, instead of having to reposition and move the mouths from scratch, to save a lot of time and hassle.

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Thanks for the reviews, Paul and Zivouhr. I'm probably most disappointed hearing that Life of Pi has a weak 3D trailer. That is one I am really looking forward to. Hopefully, it gets uploaded to YouTube soon.

Originally Posted by Carboooon

I saw a Life of Pi preview a while ago and thought it was pretty good. The 3d seemed relatively strong to me with some nice depth and a fair amount of pop out.

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Good to hear! Thanks. I'll have to see it for myself now.

Yes, always judge it with your own eyes. But if I compare it to Journey to the Center of the Earth's strong 3D, not to be intentionally harsh, but Life of Pi pales in comparison, and the movie looks like a good story about the bond between two enemies forced together.

Originally Posted by Gae

Thanks for the reviews guys.

With regards the 3D, I really wish studios would either do the 3D properly (and get a proper stereographer involved in the shoot) or else just shoot the film in 2D.

Gae

Yeah, I think it likely goes back to 3D storytelling, though in this case, I have no clue why the 3D actually got weaker as the movie became more dramatic. Cinemark has good 3D projects, so I don't know what happened.

Originally Posted by keb33509

Look up the process on how they shot ParaNorman. It was a long process. They used Canon DSLRs and they had a mount that would swivel back and forth between each shot to take the left and right eye captures. Stop animation is not easy to work with. I think their 3D in both Coraline and this is extraordinary for the technological boundaries they had to go around.

Was this filmed in 3D or post 3D converted? I agree, the process is very intricate even with computer animation, let alone the limits of real life figurines. The animation was amazing.

Originally Posted by joenostalgia23

I saw it yesterday and I really really liked the film.

As far as the 3D went, it was very subtle. But I think 3D is great for films like this and Coraline because they really help you appreciate the textures and sculpting that goes into the models.
It rarely has things stabbing into your eyes, but it's very natural.

As far as trailers went, Life of Pi had exceptional 3D!
IMO, the trailer for Life of Pi looked better than all of Paranorman and the rest of the trailers. The image was very bright and colorful, the shots and angles were very creative, especially for 3D. There's a lot of depth and dimensionality and a bit of pop-out as well... but none of the shots ever look gimmicky for 3D. I thought the trailer for Life of Pi looked even better than The Hobbit's.
I don't know what sort of theater Zivouhr went to, but I'm surprised that he wasn't impressed. Then again, we've disagreed about 3D in the past(I personally consider Coraline and Tron: Legacy to be two of the best 3D Blu-rays). no offence.

Life of Pi 3D trailer I've seen twice now, and even though I like the trailer itself, the 3D seems pretty flat to me compared to the strong 3D in Avatar, Hugo, Journey CE, My Bloody Valentine, Drive Angry, etc. I expect it to be as strong as those movies, and when it's not, I'm usually disappointed.

The only defense I can give Life of Pi's 3D is I was also unimpressed with Prometheus' 3D trailers, but really enjoyed the theatrical 3D version when I saw it. (Speaking of which, Ridley Scott's brother Tony Scott (who also helped with Prometheus) was found deceased after he apparently jumped off a bridge this weekend I'm sorry to say... )

I loved the movie Tron Legacy, but was very disappointed in the weak 3D layers through most of it, wishing they went for Hugo's 3D strength instead.

So to each his own preference.

I'm mostly looking at the layers of 3D, and if they stand out from one another without mistake (as in Hugo 3D), I'm all for it in 3D. Otherwise, 3D gets a bad rap because stereographers are playing it safe with subtle 3D.

[joenostalgia23]

Originally Posted by Zivouhr

For a stop motion animated film, Paranorman has probably the smoothest, most fluid animation I've ever seen in this style. Incredible. Stamped on the faces might refer to when then have a plug in and insert different interchangeable faces for different mouths, instead of having to reposition and move the mouths from scratch, to save a lot of time and hassle.







Yes, always judge it with your own eyes. But if I compare it to Journey to the Center of the Earth's strong 3D, not to be intentionally harsh, but Life of Pi pales in comparison, and the movie looks like a good story about the bond between two enemies forced together.



Yeah, I think it likely goes back to 3D storytelling, though in this case, I have no clue why the 3D actually got weaker as the movie became more dramatic. Cinemark has good 3D projects, so I don't know what happened.



Was this filmed in 3D or post 3D converted? I agree, the process is very intricate even with computer animation, let alone the limits of real life figurines. The animation was amazing.



Life of Pi 3D trailer I've seen twice now, and even though I like the trailer itself, the 3D seems pretty flat to me compared to the strong 3D in Avatar, Hugo, Journey CE, My Bloody Valentine, Drive Angry, etc. I expect it to be as strong as those movies, and when it's not, I'm usually disappointed.

The only defense I can give Life of Pi's 3D is I was also unimpressed with Prometheus' 3D trailers, but really enjoyed the theatrical 3D version when I saw it. (Speaking of which, Ridley Scott's brother Tony Scott (who also helped with Prometheus) was found deceased after he apparently jumped off a bridge this weekend I'm sorry to say... )

I loved the movie Tron Legacy, but was very disappointed in the weak 3D layers through most of it, wishing they went for Hugo's 3D strength instead.

So to each his own preference.

I'm mostly looking at the layers of 3D, and if they stand out from one another without mistake (as in Hugo 3D), I'm all for it in 3D. Otherwise, 3D gets a bad rap because stereographers are playing it safe with subtle 3D.

Where did you see Life of Pi's trailer? Sometimes, I think it might be the theaters that make 3D look good or bad.
Like you, I wasn't that impressed with Prometheus in trailers, but the 3D in IMAX was really good. My local theater's 3D for The Amazing Spider-Man was very weak, but I didn't see it in RealD(though I did see it in IMAX and it looked very strong).

I saw Life of Pi in a RealD theater and it was very very impressive and there was a lot of layers and depth, especially the one scene where he throws that bottle/can towards the edge of the screen. I really felt like I was floating in the water and it was right in front of me.
What was weird was that the Despicable Me and The Hobbit trailers weren't nearly as impressive as it was when I saw it at my local theater.

So I think it might be based on the theaters.

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by Paul H

If and when you see the movie, stay in your seat until the credits are finished and it will show you in a quick segment with time-laps photography how the mechanics are put together. Don't remember seeing replaceable features, but I wasn't looking for it. There was a lot to take in showing interesting pictures about physically making a character.

Paul

I saw it yesterday, but didn't stay for the credits. I think I may have already seen this as there are a few clips on Youtube about the movie. There is one where they make a small lamp from the library scene and one were they make and assemble Norman.

I found THIS. I am sure is what they were talking about when they said printed faces. Very cool.

[armandxp]

Originally Posted by atomik kinder

I was watching a short thing about this movie on FearNet, I think it was, and the director was saying they "printed" the characters. Does anyone have any idea of what he was talking about? He was particularly talking about the faces of them. I think they actually used replaceable faces, as in Nightmare before Christmas with Sally and Jack instead of mechanical heads with moveable features like the ones in Corpse Bride. It had something to do with the freckles and features on the faces and how everything was on the faces in the exact same spot on every replacement.
I know this has nothing to do with the 3D discussion, but I find stop motion animation interesting, much more so than CG animation, especially since they have to physically make everything.

I believe he was talking about using a 3d printer to make all the faces which made things a lot easier. With 3d printers it can be rendered on a computer and not hand sculpted. So, you can have lots of different faces for one character and not have to adjust the same one or two...Something like that

[atomik kinder]

Originally Posted by armandxp

I believe he was talking about using a 3d printer to make all the faces which made things a lot easier. With 3d printers it can be rendered on a computer and not hand sculpted. So, you can have lots of different faces for one character and not have to adjust the same one or two...Something like that

Exactly. See my post above. It was a color 3D printer too.