Star Wars in 1080p! - Page 3 - Blu-ray Forum

Blu-Beard · 02-20-2008, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by GSX600F

wow the differents are so tiny, its definitely NOT worth to updrage the DVD, if the upcomming BD will look like this! and YES i clicked on the image!

Do you realize you had to hover the cursor over the pic to see the HD?

Wreck · 02-20-2008, 12:04 PM

its easier if you double click the pic, then hover. Incase your having trouble seeing it, like me.

SteveOne · 02-20-2008, 01:10 PM

Cant see Fox or Lucas holding back now that Blu-Ray has secured victory in the battle of good and evil...

I wouldn't be suprised if they were out for christmas 2008

MATTYBLU2 · 02-20-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by SteveOne

Cant see Fox or Lucas holding back now that Blu-Ray has secured victory in the battle of good and evil...

I wouldn't be suprised if they were out for christmas 2008

we can only hope!!!

cant even imagine what it will look like on blu

wafi · 02-20-2008, 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by The Don

it is 1080i and better than an up-convert....

I have one burned to a DVD9 for the record and it looks good enough until the Blu version drops...

I'm not advocating this, just confirming that it looks way better than up-converted DVD...

also the broadcast on HBO HD looked spectacular and that's where I think it was pulled from...

How did you burn it on a DVD9? Ive been trying for ages! Does it play on your BD player?

tilallr1 · 02-20-2008, 01:35 PM

Yes definitely NOT 1080p. Maybe 720p or 1080i, but to be honest it merely looks like an good upconvert. Too fuzzy and colors are off or washed out, typical side effects up an upconvert. Therefore no where near as AWESOME a quality as it could be once Lucas puts out these bad boys of 50GB blu-ray discs. I am also hoping for 7.1 LPCM Audio. Lucas always believed half the experience was in the sound.

I think I just wet myself thinking about it.

Brian Cash · 02-20-2008, 02:21 PM

They play them on HBO hd all the time but its only broadcasted in 720p....well thats what I heard

Entertainment72 · 02-20-2008, 02:45 PM

Wasn't impressed.. looks like my sony $130 dvd player with 1080i upconvert did that.. meh. Hope it doesnt even come close to looking like that on BD or I'd have to give a coal tier PQ level.

Johk · 02-20-2008, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Hollywood81

The 1080p Sky feed.

Sky HD supports 720p and 1080i, not 1080p...

But yeah many dvd come from high definition transfers.

In an article published in sept 2004, they mention that the movies (IV, V, VI) were mastered in high definition from the celluloid...

"Beyond a stellar DVD, Lucasfilm now has a high-definition master stored in its vaults that won't degrade as celluloid does. The master can be used to make new film prints and high-definition DVDs."
http://www.usatoday.com/tech/news/te...tar-wars_x.htm

The fact that they have the masters does not imply that they will release it to HD media anytime soon...

Kirsty_Mc · 02-20-2008, 03:19 PM

I saw these on Sky Movies HD, and the new (prequels) looked truly excellent... Pity about the plotlines!!!. The older ones did not look so good... to be honest they didn't look much better than a DVD. I thought that IV, V & VI were upconverts when they were on... Not really impressive at all.

The Don · 02-20-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by wafi

How did you burn it on a DVD9? Ive been trying for ages! Does it play on your BD player?

I haven't tried...I've only tried it in my Samsung up-conversion player....this one plays almost anything and up-converts real well...(it's the Samsung 2nd generation of the up-converts)

it looks the same as it does on my comp...and it's an .mkv file..

The Don · 02-20-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tilallr1

Yes definitely NOT 1080p. Maybe 720p or 1080i, but to be honest it merely looks like an good upconvert. Too fuzzy and colors are off or washed out, typical side effects up an upconvert. Therefore no where near as AWESOME a quality as it could be once Lucas puts out these bad boys of 50GB blu-ray discs. I am also hoping for 7.1 LPCM Audio. Lucas always believed half the experience was in the sound.

I think I just wet myself thinking about it.

the pics in this thread look like crap whether you hover the cursor over it or not...

The Don · 02-20-2008, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Entertainment72

Wasn't impressed.. looks like my sony $130 dvd player with 1080i upconvert did that.. meh. Hope it doesnt even come close to looking like that on BD or I'd have to give a coal tier PQ level.

trust me...if HBO HD version looks better...then the BD version will look 10x better..

Quad · 02-20-2008, 03:41 PM

Ive seen the Star Wars movies on HBO HD a bunch of times, especially when I first got my big screen. I can wait a few years for them in blu. Would rather see the Planet of the Apes films or the Alien series first in blu.

rodgerse · 02-20-2008, 03:59 PM

do ppl expect bluray will have that much higher bitrates/quality?.broadcasts were fairly high, it may be marginally higher on BD, unless its mpeg2 and unless really higher bitrate it'll be worse, but broadcasts seem completelty adequete.

andyn1080 · 02-20-2008, 04:06 PM

i recorded all 6 on my comcast dvr box but i couldnt figure out how to get them off the box and on my HDD. i asked around here but no one had an answer. btw those screen dont really inpress me, just looks like they cranked up the sharpness and contrast.

Johk · 02-20-2008, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by rodgerse

do ppl expect bluray will have that much higher bitrates/quality?.broadcasts were fairly high, it may be marginally higher on BD, unless its mpeg2 and unless really higher bitrate it'll be worse, but broadcasts seem completelty adequete.

I think we should expect 1080p, better compression (i.e. less compression artifacts) and lossless audio!

I watch movies in HD on cable (Movie Network in Canada) and you can see tons of compression artifacts and many of them aren't even broadcast in 5.1 DD (just plain stereo). So I definitely expect a better presentation on Blu-ray. I remember reading in WSR (Issue 126) about the quality of HD broadcast which was what they called HD-lite!

Rheologuy · 02-20-2008, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by turboedguy

+1
saw them on HBO HD, way better than DVD!!!!!

Absolutely. They looked really good on HBOHD, even at 1080i. Sometimes, though, images in HDTV broadcast movies can become very pixilated when the motion speeds up. It varies from broadcast to broadcast for the same movie on the same channel. King Kong, for example no HBOHD can be really good or terrible that way. Often wondered why. Have cable, not satellite.

The Don · 02-20-2008, 04:10 PM

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Originally Posted by rodgerse

do ppl expect bluray will have that much higher bitrates/quality?.broadcasts were fairly high, it may be marginally higher on BD, unless its mpeg2 and unless really higher bitrate it'll be worse, but broadcasts seem completelty adequete.

broadcasts are in 1080i and watered down because of the feed...

I expect Lucas to put little grain, if any because of how he wants his movies viewed.....sort of like 2001: A Space Odyssey having no grain...because it was supposed to be of the future...

Star Wars is supposed to be more advanced ....or whatever....Lucas will try to make the older movies look like they just came out and his previous modifications only support that...

The Don · 02-20-2008, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Johk

I think we should expect 1080p, better compression (i.e. less compression artifacts) and lossless audio!

I watch movies in HD on cable (Movie Network in Canada) and you can see tons of compression artifacts and many of them aren't even broadcast in 5.1 DD (just plain stereo). So I definitely expect a better presentation on Blu-ray. I remember reading in WSR (Issue 126) about the quality of HD broadcast which was what they called HD-lite!

yuup...I didn't even mention lossless audio...

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02-20-2008, 12:04 PM	#42
Wreck Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2008 Location:H-town To Indy PSNetwork: HERETOWRECK Trophy Level: (12) Blu-ray collection:249 Blu-ray reviews:7 Trading Score:58	its easier if you double click the pic, then hover. Incase your having trouble seeing it, like me.

02-20-2008, 01:10 PM	#43
SteveOne Member Member since:Nov 2007 Location:UK	Cant see Fox or Lucas holding back now that Blu-Ray has secured victory in the battle of good and evil... I wouldn't be suprised if they were out for christmas 2008

02-20-2008, 01:35 PM	#46
tilallr1 Blu-ray Samurai Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Great White North Home Theater Gallery:410 4K collection:78 Blu-ray collection:2009 DVD collection:2598 Blu-ray reviews: 33 Trading Score:248	Yes definitely NOT 1080p. Maybe 720p or 1080i, but to be honest it merely looks like an good upconvert. Too fuzzy and colors are off or washed out, typical side effects up an upconvert. Therefore no where near as AWESOME a quality as it could be once Lucas puts out these bad boys of 50GB blu-ray discs. I am also hoping for 7.1 LPCM Audio. Lucas always believed half the experience was in the sound. I think I just wet myself thinking about it.

02-20-2008, 02:21 PM	#47
Brian Cash Special Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Chicago Blu-ray collection:13 Blu-ray reviews:2 Trading Score:3	They play them on HBO hd all the time but its only broadcasted in 720p....well thats what I heard

02-20-2008, 02:45 PM	#48
Entertainment72 Special Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Fort Myers, FL Blu-ray collection:44 Blu-ray reviews:1	Wasn't impressed.. looks like my sony $130 dvd player with 1080i upconvert did that.. meh. Hope it doesnt even come close to looking like that on BD or I'd have to give a coal tier PQ level.

02-20-2008, 03:19 PM	#50
Kirsty_Mc Power Member Top contributor Member since:Oct 2007 Location:UK Blu-ray collection:536 Blu-ray reviews: 21	I saw these on Sky Movies HD, and the new (prequels) looked truly excellent... Pity about the plotlines!!!. The older ones did not look so good... to be honest they didn't look much better than a DVD. I thought that IV, V & VI were upconverts when they were on... Not really impressive at all.

02-20-2008, 03:41 PM	#54
Quad Expert Member Member since:Oct 2007	Ive seen the Star Wars movies on HBO HD a bunch of times, especially when I first got my big screen. I can wait a few years for them in blu. Would rather see the Planet of the Apes films or the Alien series first in blu.

02-20-2008, 03:59 PM	#55
rodgerse Active Member Member since:Oct 2007	do ppl expect bluray will have that much higher bitrates/quality?.broadcasts were fairly high, it may be marginally higher on BD, unless its mpeg2 and unless really higher bitrate it'll be worse, but broadcasts seem completelty adequete.

02-20-2008, 04:06 PM	#56
andyn1080 Active Member Member since:Feb 2007 Blu-ray collection:910 Blu-ray reviews:2	i recorded all 6 on my comcast dvr box but i couldnt figure out how to get them off the box and on my HDD. i asked around here but no one had an answer. btw those screen dont really inpress me, just looks like they cranked up the sharpness and contrast.

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