Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002) No 3D Blu-ray - Blu-ray Forum

mseeley · 08-26-2012, 06:53 AM

From what I've skimmed so far, this sounds amazing! I really cannot wait to see this now. I'm relly happy to hear that they are trying to improve the 3d over phantom menace( i need to see it in 3d a second time, but the 3d felt very subtle for that movie, though whether that is good or bad to me, still has yet to be decided)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/...tage-impresses

EricJ · 08-26-2012, 09:01 AM

I sort of suspected we'd get Episode 2 so that George could "do-over" Episode 1--
SW:E1 was greenlit back during the honeymoon when every studio and director read the headline that the technology had been invented....Okay, it's the morning after, now we know that conversions aren't so great after all, and they don't just happen by pressing a button.

(At least I was right in holding off my purchase of the entire Prequel trilogy until the 3D's came out. I just had to hold out faith that there would be more than one.

)

Gae · 08-26-2012, 09:26 AM

You'd think George Lucas would have enough money to do a decent 3D conversion wouldn't you? Or is it all being done "in house" (i.e. at ILM) and they are still getting to grips with their 3D conversion tools?

Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the recent trilogy. They had overblown special effects, too much political meandering and some awfully wooden acting...Hayden Christensen being the worst offender. I just didn't enjoy his performances at all and he often delivered his lines with no conviction or the wrong intonation.... You "WILL" try!!

Of course, the original trilogy are all classics but they were done at a time when the Star Wars movies seemed to get the balance right between, storyline, character development, dialogue and special effects. It also helps if all of your cast have screen presence and a chemistry between them, which in the original trilogy they did...in bundles.

Gae

BleedOrange11 · 08-26-2012, 02:44 PM

Here's an old interview with John Knoll about the Star Wars Ep. I conversion.

http://media.fxguide.com/fxguidetv/fxguidetv-ep136.mp4

He seems very knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to optimizing 3D. It sounds like he got the exact look that he wanted in Ep. I, and George Lucas approved.

However, my guess is that they were so worried about not creating eye strain and hyperstereo that they forgot to make the 3D engaging and worthwhile for audiences that have to pay extra and wear glasses at the theater to see it. The reported use of stronger depth and higher convergence is likely a reaction to the general public's distaste for Ep. I's ultra-conservative 3D.

Hopefully, they have learned more about what makes a good 3D experience for audiences. I'm glad that they started with the worst Star Wars film first.

mseeley · 08-26-2012, 08:16 PM

Just got this exciting piece of news from the official FB page for Star Wars!!!!!!!!

Breaking news from #StarWarsCVI: Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith to be theatrically released in 3D back-to-back, September 20, 2013 and October 11, 2013 respectively.

This is FANTASTIC!!!! I CAN'T FREAKING WAIT!!!

SethRex · 08-26-2012, 08:23 PM

Oh good. I was worried about this, cause I didn't think Ep I's re-release did all that well. Now I can see Ep II in theaters again

I'm hoping to see all 6 in theaters.

Zivouhr · 08-26-2012, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by mseeley

From what I've skimmed so far, this sounds amazing! I really cannot wait to see this now. I'm relly happy to hear that they are trying to improve the 3d over phantom menace( i need to see it in 3d a second time, but the 3d felt very subtle for that movie, though whether that is good or bad to me, still has yet to be decided)

http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/...tage-impresses

Thanks for posting this hopeful news. I enjoy the Star Wars movies even with their flaws in the newer ones, but felt the 3D was as weak in Episode I overall. Great to hear they're rethinking things a bit for stronger 3D that's worth putting on 3D glasses for...

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Originally Posted by therainberg

No amount of extra money or rotoscoping talent would have changed the results as long as they were aiming for such a low stereo budget.

Good point. I think Lucas wanted as low a budget as possible for the 3D in part I.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BleedOrange11

Here's an old interview with John Knoll about the Star Wars Ep. I conversion.

http://media.fxguide.com/fxguidetv/fxguidetv-ep136.mp4

He seems very knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to optimizing 3D. It sounds like he got the exact look that he wanted in Ep. I, and George Lucas approved.

However, my guess is that they were so worried about not creating eye strain and hyperstereo that they forgot to make the 3D engaging and worthwhile for audiences that have to pay extra and wear glasses at the theater to see it. The reported use of stronger depth and higher convergence is likely a reaction to the general public's distaste for Ep. I's ultra-conservative 3D.

Hopefully, they have learned more about what makes a good 3D experience for audiences. I'm glad that they started with the worst Star Wars film first.

Agreed.
I think Lucas, when he approved the weak 3D for Episode I 3D, forgot what Avatar 3D looked like, which was one of his inspiration for converting the films.

Doombear · 08-26-2012, 08:39 PM

Hopefully they can re-tool the 3D in Episode I before it hits Blu-ray.

BellesBiggestFan · 08-26-2012, 08:44 PM

Sounds like they might be stepping up production on these then - could potentially mean we get the entire original trilogy in 2014.

Carboooon · 08-26-2012, 09:10 PM

I'm not quite sure where you got that idea from. They are doing one a year, which is what they set out to do at the start. If anything, the old films could require more work, which might result in a delay.

Zivouhr · 08-26-2012, 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Doombear

Hopefully they can re-tool the 3D in Episode I before it hits Blu-ray.

That would be welcome, but they're probably going to keep moving ahead since Lucas approved of ep I.

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Originally Posted by Carboooon

I'm not quite sure where you got that idea from. They are doing one a year, which is what they set out to do at the start. If anything, the old films could require more work, which might result in a delay.

That's true, with the new ones, they can probably take original render files and play with those files a bit, but with a flat, 2D image on the originals, they only have the film strip to work with, now digital of course.

Carboooon · 08-26-2012, 11:25 PM

Well, those dates certainly took me by surprise. I guess we really will see A New Hope in 2014

DavidGQ · 08-26-2012, 11:42 PM

I am glad I wasn't the only one that feel a big let down on the 3D in EP 1. As a SW fan, I expect a lot more from ILM. Originally, they're supposed to do it in house. EP 1 could be awesome but they missed the mark. I hope they will do better for the next one.

Ryan0503 · 08-26-2012, 11:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DavidGQ

I am glad I wasn't the only one that feel a big let down on the 3D in EP 1. As a SW fan, I expect a lot more from ILM. Originally, they're supposed to do it in house. EP 1 could be awesome but they missed the mark. I hope they will do better for the next one.

I saw the footage of EP II in 3D ... you wont be disappointed

(And Prime Focus is the company doing the conversion)

nycomet · 08-27-2012, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Doombear

Hopefully they can re-tool the 3D in Episode I before it hits Blu-ray.

Retool? What does that mean?

StoogeFan1118 · 08-27-2012, 01:43 AM

I didnt get to see the 3D re release of Episode 1 in theaters but I would not mind picking it up on blu-ray any ideas if they are releasing the blus individually or waiting until the whole prequel trilogy has been released in theaters first?

mseeley · 08-27-2012, 06:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SethRex

Oh good. I was worried about this, cause I didn't think Ep I's re-release did all that well. Now I can see Ep II in theaters again

I'm hoping to see all 6 in theaters.

I was too, after hearing Peter Jackson mentioning it during a question posed to him about converting LOTR into 3d, at the Comic Con 2012 panel on the Hobbit.

mseeley · 08-27-2012, 06:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Doombear

Hopefully they can re-tool the 3D in Episode I before it hits Blu-ray.

That'd be awesome, but I'm thinking it would cost them alot more, therefore it doesn't sound as likely

mseeley · 08-27-2012, 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ryan0503

i saw the footage of ep ii in 3d ... You wont be disappointed

(and prime focus is the company doing the conversion)

GAH!!!!! Lucky!!!!

DavidGQ · 08-27-2012, 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by StoogeFan1118

I didnt get to see the 3D re release of Episode 1 in theaters but I would not mind picking it up on blu-ray any ideas if they are releasing the blus individually or waiting until the whole prequel trilogy has been released in theaters first?

Last I heard it will be exclusive , similar to Avatar. But knowing Lucas, he likes to take his time(how long it took for DVD and Bluray?) So don't hold your breath.

08-26-2012, 06:53 AM	#1
mseeley Special Member Member since:Jun 2010 Location:CA Blu-ray collection:262	Star Wars Episode II: Attack of the Clones (2002) No 3D Blu-ray From what I've skimmed so far, this sounds amazing! I really cannot wait to see this now. I'm relly happy to hear that they are trying to improve the 3d over phantom menace( i need to see it in 3d a second time, but the 3d felt very subtle for that movie, though whether that is good or bad to me, still has yet to be decided) http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/08/...tage-impresses Last edited by mseeley; 08-26-2012 at 08:17 PM.

08-26-2012, 09:26 AM	#3
Gae Active Member Member since:Mar 2012	You'd think George Lucas would have enough money to do a decent 3D conversion wouldn't you? Or is it all being done "in house" (i.e. at ILM) and they are still getting to grips with their 3D conversion tools? Personally, I'm not a huge fan of the recent trilogy. They had overblown special effects, too much political meandering and some awfully wooden acting...Hayden Christensen being the worst offender. I just didn't enjoy his performances at all and he often delivered his lines with no conviction or the wrong intonation.... You "WILL" try!! Of course, the original trilogy are all classics but they were done at a time when the Star Wars movies seemed to get the balance right between, storyline, character development, dialogue and special effects. It also helps if all of your cast have screen presence and a chemistry between them, which in the original trilogy they did...in bundles. Gae Last edited by Gae; 08-26-2012 at 09:33 AM.

08-26-2012, 09:01 AM	#2
EricJ Banned Member since:Jul 2007 Location:The Paradise of New England Blu-ray collection:6	I sort of suspected we'd get Episode 2 so that George could "do-over" Episode 1-- SW:E1 was greenlit back during the honeymoon when every studio and director read the headline that the technology had been invented....Okay, it's the morning after, now we know that conversions aren't so great after all, and they don't just happen by pressing a button. (At least I was right in holding off my purchase of the entire Prequel trilogy until the 3D's came out. I just had to hold out faith that there would be more than one. )

08-26-2012, 02:44 PM	#4
BleedOrange11 Blu-ray Samurai Top contributor Member since:Sep 2011 4K collection:20 Blu-ray collection:986 DVD collection:62 Blu-ray reviews: 44 Trading Score:4	Here's an old interview with John Knoll about the Star Wars Ep. I conversion. http://media.fxguide.com/fxguidetv/fxguidetv-ep136.mp4 He seems very knowledgeable and experienced when it comes to optimizing 3D. It sounds like he got the exact look that he wanted in Ep. I, and George Lucas approved. However, my guess is that they were so worried about not creating eye strain and hyperstereo that they forgot to make the 3D engaging and worthwhile for audiences that have to pay extra and wear glasses at the theater to see it. The reported use of stronger depth and higher convergence is likely a reaction to the general public's distaste for Ep. I's ultra-conservative 3D. Hopefully, they have learned more about what makes a good 3D experience for audiences. I'm glad that they started with the worst Star Wars film first.

08-26-2012, 08:16 PM	#5
mseeley Special Member Member since:Jun 2010 Location:CA Blu-ray collection:262	Just got this exciting piece of news from the official FB page for Star Wars!!!!!!!! Breaking news from #StarWarsCVI: Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith to be theatrically released in 3D back-to-back, September 20, 2013 and October 11, 2013 respectively. This is FANTASTIC!!!! I CAN'T FREAKING WAIT!!!

08-26-2012, 08:23 PM	#6
SethRex Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Jan 2009 4K collection:6 Blu-ray collection:7 Digital collection:1 Blu-ray reviews: 6 Trading Score:127	Oh good. I was worried about this, cause I didn't think Ep I's re-release did all that well. Now I can see Ep II in theaters again I'm hoping to see all 6 in theaters.

08-26-2012, 08:39 PM	#8
Doombear Senior Member Top contributor Member since:Apr 2012 Location:Calgary, Alberta Canada 4K collection:24 Blu-ray collection:2285 DVD collection:1727 Digital collection:2 Trading Score:13	Hopefully they can re-tool the 3D in Episode I before it hits Blu-ray.

08-26-2012, 08:44 PM	#9
BellesBiggestFan Active Member Member since:Nov 2011 Trading Score:4	Sounds like they might be stepping up production on these then - could potentially mean we get the entire original trilogy in 2014.

08-26-2012, 09:10 PM	#10
Carboooon Junior Member Member since:Jul 2012	I'm not quite sure where you got that idea from. They are doing one a year, which is what they set out to do at the start. If anything, the old films could require more work, which might result in a delay.

08-26-2012, 11:25 PM	#12
Carboooon Junior Member Member since:Jul 2012	Well, those dates certainly took me by surprise. I guess we really will see A New Hope in 2014

08-26-2012, 11:42 PM	#13
DavidGQ Senior Member Member since:Dec 2011 Location:Vienna, VA 4K collection:208 Blu-ray collection:1184 Blu-ray reviews:5 Trading Score:72	I am glad I wasn't the only one that feel a big let down on the 3D in EP 1. As a SW fan, I expect a lot more from ILM. Originally, they're supposed to do it in house. EP 1 could be awesome but they missed the mark. I hope they will do better for the next one.

08-27-2012, 01:43 AM	#16
StoogeFan1118 Blu-ray Guru Member since:Jan 2007 Trading Score:2	I didnt get to see the 3D re release of Episode 1 in theaters but I would not mind picking it up on blu-ray any ideas if they are releasing the blus individually or waiting until the whole prequel trilogy has been released in theaters first?

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