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[EricJ]

Originally Posted by yumny

^ Here's the thing; when recommending a set of 10-15 movies to someone who hasn't seen them before, allow them to form their own opinion.

Well, yeah, but if he deliberately avoided them because he was symbolically "punishing" them for the post-Pocahontas years, it helps to have a few real-world details.
Like Planet, or Herc, or Robinsons--and please tell me he wasn't scared off by that first Tangled teaser--one can occasionally read the wrong headlines if they're not open-minded enough to investigate everything.

All he said he wanted was nudge in the right direction:
"Wait, somebody said they liked Home on the Range, and Princess&Frog wasn't that bad?...Okay, this I gotta find out. "
(I mean, what if he only rented Atlantis and said "See, I was right!"? Can't have that, not on the Internet.)

[NeoMaximuz]

Originally Posted by EricJ

Well, yeah, but if he deliberately avoided them because he was symbolically "punishing" them for the post-Pocahontas years, it helps to have a few real-world details.
Like Planet, or Herc, or Robinsons--and please tell me he wasn't scared off by that first Tangled teaser--one can occasionally read the wrong headlines if they're not open-minded enough to investigate everything.

All he said he wanted was nudge in the right direction:
"Wait, somebody said they liked Home on the Range, and Princess&Frog wasn't that bad?...Okay, this I gotta find out. "
(I mean, what if he only rented Atlantis and said "See, I was right!"? Can't have that, not on the Internet.)

If you mean me, I wasn't really punishing Disney, I guess I just kind of lost interest once I got a little older. The early '90s Disney cartoons I liked because I was still a kid, and the older ones I liked for the nostalgic appeal, I still do.

Then the late '90s brought Pixar, and IMHO they stole Disney's thunder after that.

But... Tangled interested me from the first teaser I saw. I just haven't gotten around to watch it.

I have always been a fan of Golden Age animation, but lost interest in animation after the Renaissance of the early '90s. But I may give all those that you guys were mentioning (thanks btw for the highly detailed lists!), but it will take time. It's hard to buy the time to sit down and watch a movie nowadays.

[PuppyJonathan]

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

[Bluballs31]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

[NeoMaximuz]

Originally Posted by Bluballs31

That's the only DTV sequel that I like; probably the only one I've seen.

Actually, I LOVE this DTV sequel!

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

Definitely Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas, but Aladdin and the King of Thieves has always been another favorite.

[zoodermin]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

I'll have to say both Lion King sequels. Not that I will but them but at least I can stand them. They don't have horrible animation and are passable entertainment.

[mister serious]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

Definitely "Kronk's New Groove"

[EricJ]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

Atlantis II: the TV Series, aka "Gargoyles: the Next Generation".
Mulan II: She's a Role Model Now
Brother Bear 2: Same Thing, Now With Girls Included
Lilo & Stitch 2: The TV Series Hasn't Happened Yet, For Those Who Liked the Sister/Family Stuff
Cinderella III: the Apology
Little Mermaid III: the Even Bigger Apology AND Excuse to Use an Old Archive Concept Design
Enchanted Tales: Follow Your Dreams (aka "Sure, another Aladdin TV episode's easy, but you didn't think we could do a Sleeping Beauty spinoff too, did you?")

[The Mad Kiwi]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

The only DTV sequel I can truly say I love is Pooh's Grand Adventure: The Search for Christopher Robin. True, it kind of steals its story structure from The Wizard of Oz, but it's still well-told. Its tone has more in common with The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh series (where a playful sense of adventure was the order of the day) than the original Many Adventures (which was more about gentle wit and whimsy). As such, I consider the new canon Winnie the Pooh to be the direct sequel to Many Adventures whereas this one to me is more the series finale to New Adventures.

And while I do prefer the new Pooh feature, I think Grand Adventure has one advantage over it: it has more substance. At the end of Many Adventures, you feel like a lot's happened even though there really hasn't. The new Winnie the Pooh leaves you wanting more, something Pooh's Grand Adventure doesn't. Plus, there's no scene in the new film that really grabs your heastrings the way "Wherever You Are" does. So while I do prefer the canon sequel for being in-tune to Milne's universe and the presentation of Many Adventures, both it and Pooh's Grand Adventure come rather close to each other. Had the new film been 10 minutes longer and featured an emotional Pooh/Christopher Robin sequence the way Many Adventures had the "We Say Goodbye" finale and Grand Adventure had "Wherever You Are," it would've been perfect. I hope we get a Blu-ray release of this at some point.

[DisneyBlu]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

DTV films I like the most:

The Return of Jafar
Pooh's Grand Adventure
Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas
The Lion King II: Simba's Pride [One of the best sequels to me]
Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas
Lady and the Tramp II
The Lion King 1 1/2
Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketeers
Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas
Bambi II
Cinderella III: A Twist in Time
The Little Mermaid III: Ariel's Beginning
Lilo & Stitch 2

It's not DTV, but Return to Neverland is one of my favorite Disney sequels.

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by DisneyBlu

DTV films I like the most:

The Return of Jafar
Pooh's Grand Adventure
Beauty and the Beast: The Enchanted Christmas
The Lion King II: Simba's Pride [One of the best sequels to me]
Mickey's Once Upon a Christmas
Lady and the Tramp II
The Lion King 1 1/2
Mickey, Donald, Goofy: The Three Musketeers
Mickey's Twice Upon a Christmas
Bambi II
Cinderella III: A Twist in Time
The Little Mermaid III: Ariel's Beginning
Lilo & Stitch 2

It's not DTV, but Return to Neverland is one of my favorite Disney sequels.

Return to Neverland is a DTV, it was given a theatrical release in some countries (not the US) but it was intended as a DTV.

[PeterTHX]

Originally Posted by disneyfreak

Return to Neverland is a DTV, it was given a theatrical release in some countries (not the US) but it was intended as a DTV.

It did get a US theatrical release, so did Jungle Book 2.

[disneyfreak]

Originally Posted by PeterTHX

It did get a US theatrical release, so did Jungle Book 2.

Wow. I'm not remembering either of these getting a US release. I thought i read somewhere that they didn't get a theatrical release here. Thanks for the info

[yumny]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

Don't kill me, but Bambi II is the only one I could actually tolerate. It had good music, nice animation and a nice little story with character development and an action sequence.

It's not because I never had nostalgia for the sequels; I own most of the 92-2002 sequels on VHS and as a kid I still hated them.

[pap64]

Originally Posted by PuppyJonathan

Since I'm curious, I wanted to know: What's everyone's favorite DTV sequel (if they even have one). I'll admit I'm not so big of a fan of them (I don't even watch them) but I will pick out a favorite after all the riots this post makes

For me, it's Cinderella III. I love Cinderella, it is on my list of top five animated Disney classics. But I abhorred Cinderella II. It was one of the most atrocious things Disney has ever done. So when I heard that a second sequel movie was being made, I shuddered at the idea. But I was genuinely interested in the idea of the movie being about how Lady Tremaine ruined the original story.

I watched it, and much to my surprise, I loved it. Yeah it still doesn't beat the beauty and romance of the original, but for what it is, it is great. I love how the movie is, in a way, how this generation of Disney fans view Cinderella, especially the Disney Princesses. In the original, Cinderella was very passive and reactive. In this one, she is definitely more active in her story. She KNEW she found true love, she REALIZES that her happiness is in jeopardy, and realizes that only SHE has the power to stop it.

I also love that they expanded upon the role of Anastasia. Once again, I get that the idea is that Cinderella has TWO evil stepsisters that make her life a living hell. But I do believe in redemption, and I do believe that people can change, so I loved that they made Anastasia very likable and very human, and not just a clone of her sister.

In that regard, I like that Prince Charming is given more to do in the story than in the original. Even if he is still far from an ideal leading hero, he too understands that he needs to fight for his happy ending as well.

I know that as a Disney fan, I am breaking some holy rule about sequels etc., but Cinderella III proved to me that DisneyToon Studios had more than enough talent to do their own thing, and should have been a genuine part of the Disney company, not just an animation studio that pumps out mediocre to solid sequels to the animated classics.

The other sequel that I truly, genuinely LOVED is The Lion King 1 1/2. For some odd reason, fans have claimed that this "ruins" the original movie. Yeah, it takes a satirical approach to the first movie while telling its own story. But it's not THAT bad. I actually love that it doesn't take an ultra serious approach to the story, but still manages to tell a solid story, one that both celebrates and pokes fun at the success of the original movie.

[Ernest Rister]

If you guys had your own cheapquel thread, I wouldn't comment in it, because I abhor bringing the slightest bit of attention to those movies. They tend to make me vomit though my corneas.

[zoodermin]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

If you guys had your own cheapquel thread, I wouldn't comment in it, because I abhor bringing the slightest bit of attention to those movies. They tend to make me vomit though my corneas.

I don't think that will be a good discussion thead. Most people are aware that the cheapquels are really low quality entertainment. Some people may have some affection to some of them but I don't think anyone can say they are superior to the original film.

In my opinion, the cheapquels go from "absolute trash" (Belle's Magical World, among others) to "harmless and forgettable" (The Lion King sequels, among others) but I cannot in good conscience say that one of them is good. They can have some saving elements but overall they are always a subpar product.

[Ernest Rister]

I think I was trying to say "take the cheapquel discussion someplace else" in as genteel a way as I could,