2025-2026 College Football Thread

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Josh

! Now, why they couldn't play this way all year, I'll never know.

Beamer ball is predicated around 1 concept lose then win

[emac213]

Originally Posted by supersix4

They're not terrible... They will just play typical ACC ball and lose to the real contenders, you really think Vtech or FSU could go down to Tuscaloosa and get a W (now that would crack me up), or go out to Autzen and play the ducks, shoot I'd bet big money against either winning at USC, or even OSU. But sure a bowl game in the middle of nowhere vs. a top10-20, my bet would change to both being very capable of getting a W. The other problem is as of late (FSU used to play like 3 good out of conference games) both Vtech and FSU play against such weak competition you won't know till a bowl game, and then the fan bases are shocked when a real contender (stanford drops 40 on them)

I think what it is the SEC just has better coaching. If you go by position Alabama roster is not that much better then FSU's' beside's the O line were are they that much better at this season. The biggest problem with the top ACC team's is consistency im really talking about FSU, I would not be surprised if FSU came out and laid an egg against USF. Talent wise we have the player's to compete with the SEC team's.

[The Lizard King]

Originally Posted by emac213

I think what it is the SEC just has better coaching. If you go by position Alabama roster is not that much better then FSU's' beside's the O line were are they that much better at this season. The biggest problem with the top ACC team's is consistency im really talking about FSU, I would not be surprised if FSU came out and laid an egg against USF. Talent wise we have the player's to compete with the SEC team's.

Not game-day or practice coaching IMO. Where the SEC excels is in the practice of oversigning and forced medical retirements. SEC coaches can weed out those who aren't contributing with medical retirements (even though there's nothing medically wrong with the players) and replacing them with the next recruiting class by oversigning well past 25 players.

TLK cool:

[Terjyn]

I often wonder how the SEC teams would fare if they were ever forced to be ready to play in colder/bad weather.

Every other conference has at least one site farther north.

[The Lizard King]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I often wonder how the SEC teams would fare if they were ever forced to be ready to play in colder/bad weather.

Every other conference has at least one site farther north.

They have Missouri in the conference now. It's cold there in November.

TLK

[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I often wonder how the SEC teams would fare if they were ever forced to be ready to play in colder/bad weather.

Every other conference has at least one site farther north.

Well we don't have much in the way of cold weather but we have plenty of bad weather in the southeast. We have thunderstorms almost every day in Florida this time of the year. Games get stopped all the time due to lightning.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Well we don't have much in the way of cold weather but we have plenty of bad weather in the southeast. We have thunderstorms almost every day in Florida this time of the year. Games get stopped all the time due to lightning.

Sure, but that's hardly unique to the SEC.

The unique thing about the SEC is they nearly never have to play in snow/ice. Bowls are in warm locales, and the SEC doesn't have to go to a site like Minnesota, Syracuse, or Oregon.

I'm not saying it matters in the big picture, I'd just like to see SEC speed try to play in a thick snowstorm. I love those games in the NFL.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I'm not saying it matters in the big picture, I'd just like to see SEC speed try to play in a thick snowstorm. I love those games in the NFL.

We saw that in the LSU game when it was pouring rain (psu 2009) they would have won by at least two touchdowns off holiday returns be he either slipped or couldn't gain speed on wide open fields.

Originally Posted by emac213

I think what it is the SEC just has better coaching. If you go by position Alabama roster is not that much better then FSU's' beside's the O line were are they that much better at this season. The biggest problem with the top ACC team's is consistency im really talking about FSU, I would not be surprised if FSU came out and laid an egg against USF. Talent wise we have the player's to compete with the SEC team's.

Its been posted here many times from USAtoday about the talent that comes from LA, MS, AL, GA, SC, and FL far out shines the rest of the country I'd then follow that first class recruiting area, with Big 12 country/Pac-10 then Big10/ACC... If anything FSU should be destroying ACC play even worse given the foothold they could have down there. I will say if NC,MD,VA,PA exc. wasn't having talent poached from other conferences they might have a shot at being considered tier 2 with big12/pac10 but based on the recruiters in the ACC now I'd consider them last of the 5 big conferences.

[fatediesel]

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[ChadFL]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Sure, but that's hardly unique to the SEC.

The unique thing about the SEC is they nearly never have to play in snow/ice. Bowls are in warm locales, and the SEC doesn't have to go to a site like Minnesota, Syracuse, or Oregon.

I'm not saying it matters in the big picture, I'd just like to see SEC speed try to play in a thick snowstorm. I love those games in the NFL.

Same thing happens in Super Bowls though. They've always played them in warm weather or in domes. Though that will change at least once when they have a Super Bowl in New Jersey soon.

[Terjyn]

Originally Posted by ChadFL

Same thing happens in Super Bowls though. They've always played them in warm weather or in domes. Though that will change at least once when they have a Super Bowl in New Jersey soon.

So? This isn't about the championship picture. It's not about who wins the national title.

It was a simple thought about something I've wanted to see for a while.

[ChadFL]

Well here's something I didn't expect. My school is favored to beat an SEC opponent. UCF is currently a 2.5 point favorite over Missouri this week.

[Spurrier Sucks]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

Sure, but that's hardly unique to the SEC.

The unique thing about the SEC is they nearly never have to play in snow/ice. Bowls are in warm locales, and the SEC doesn't have to go to a site like Minnesota, Syracuse, or Oregon.

I'm not saying it matters in the big picture, I'd just like to see SEC speed try to play in a thick snowstorm. I love those games in the NFL.

"SEC speed" is damn stupid. SEC has players that can't get into any other school and criminals going from 1 SEC school to another, Cam Newton and Zach Mettenberger come to mind. I don't think anyone in the SEC has more speed than Fl. St. or Oregon. Don't let ESPN control your view on college football. OK St. should have played LSU and would have if ESPN didn't have millions invested into the SEC. How did Ole Miss SEC speed fair against Texas?

[Silo5]

Originally Posted by Terjyn

I often wonder how the SEC teams would fare if they were ever forced to be ready to play in colder/bad weather.

Every other conference has at least one site farther north.

I would love to see SEC team(s) play in the cold weather up north. If they could dominate under those conditions, then that would really be something. It would be interesting to see how they do when the game time temperature is under 32 degrees.

[sycro]

It'd be more interesting to see how they did if they couldn't sign 40 recruits to 20 scholarships and then drop the extras right before school.

[ApolloOne]

Originally Posted by sycro

It'd be more interesting to see how they did if they couldn't sign 40 recruits to 20 scholarships and then drop the extras right before school.

You're seeing it. No school can sign more than 28. Only two SEC schools—Kentucky and Mississippi State—signed more than 25 this year. Those teams aren't going to be holding crystal footballs anytime soon.

But I do get what you're saying. Still, I think regional talent and financial commitment have more to do with their success than oversigning.

[sycro]

Originally Posted by ApolloOne

You're seeing it. No school can sign more than 28. Only two SEC schools—Kentucky and Mississippi State—signed more than 25 this year. Those teams aren't going to be holding crystal footballs anytime soon.

But I do get what you're saying. Still, I think regional talent and financial commitment has more to do with their success than oversigning.

But oversigning has historically (since the 28 rule was only enacted starting this year) allowed them to claim more of the regional talent until it was really too late for other schools to adjust.

[nremdn]

Originally Posted by sycro

It'd be more interesting to see how they did if they couldn't sign 40 recruits to 20 scholarships and then drop the extras right before school.

You are right.

Originally Posted by ApolloOne

You're seeing it. No school can sign more than 28. Only two SEC schools—Kentucky and Mississippi State—signed more than 25 this year. Those teams aren't going to be holding crystal footballs anytime soon.

You are wrong.

Google greyshirting. That is just the tip of the iceberg, you will see that if you keep digging. Sycro is absolutely correct, they treat the 28 player limit like it's a suggestion and not a rule. The NCAA is a total joke.

[ApolloOne]

Originally Posted by nremdn

You are wrong.

Google greyshirting. That is just the tip of the iceberg, you will see that if you keep digging. Sycro is absolutely correct, they treat the 28 player limit like it's a suggestion and not a rule. The NCAA is a total joke.

No, I'm correct, actually. There is a 28-signee limit and the schools I mentioned did sign the number I said (source).

And I feel confident in my prediction that neither Kentucky nor Mississippi State will win the national championship.

I know all about greyshirting, and I don't condone it or oversigning. A rule that says you can have 28 signees in February, but only 25 in June is merely telling the schools, "It's up to you to decide whom to screw over."

But having said that, what is the solution for a school that spends a lot of time and effort trying to land a kid for one of its limited number of scholarships, only to lose him when he can't qualify academically?

And don't say "lower the academic standards".

[nremdn]

Originally Posted by ApolloOne

No, I'm correct, actually. There is a 28-signee limit and the schools I mentioned did sign the number I said (source).

And I feel confident in my prediction that neither Kentucky nor Mississippi State will win the national championship.

I know all about greyshirting, and I don't condone it or oversigning. A rule that says you can have 28 signees in February, but only 25 in June is merely telling the schools, "It's up to you to decide whom to screw over."

But having said that, what is the solution for a school that spends a lot of time and effort trying to land a kid for one of its limited number of scholarships, only to lose him when he can't qualify academically?

And don't say "lower the academic standards".

You were right that only two schools "signed" 28, but I guarantee Alabama had over 30 in their recruiting class. They do it every year, well at least every year since Saban has been there. Just because they didn't sign them doesn't mean they don't have them on campus (as a plan b for any of their signees that doesn't live up to expectations). A team that plays by the rules and only recruits 25 has less room for error than a team that recruits 30+. The margin for error is much slimmer on the legit teams. A few busts here and there and the recruiting class isn't looking so hot anymore.

To answer your question....there isn't a freaking thing they can do if he doesn't qualify academically. The NCAA has made college football a play dirty or don't win system. The only way to hold a crystal football these days is to get down in the dirt with all the rest of the filthy programs. Blame the NCAA for allowing it.