what would you do when SHTF?

[Anthony P]

Originally Posted by sk33tr

i didn't miss any point.

yes you did and you are still missing it. In the EOW scenario it is not about knowing how to start a fire with out matches, hunting skills or supplies. His question does not say what happened but can you answer me how your "preparedness" and being in the boy scouts will help you survive an atomic bomb falling 3" from your face? Or how about if this happens due to an illness much worst then the beubonic plague (since let's face it humanity in Europe easily survived the plague) that kills 90% of people does your list have a way to make sure that you don't get ill? .... Now the "disaster" could be short or long lived, but let's forget it for a second, the next step is simple survival, right, hiding out and consuming. You have some water, rations, cans, combustible, bullets (defence and hunting)...? But how long will they last? Gort showed those rations that he has, but think of it how many would he need for a year? he has an alcohol stove but how much alcohol does he have? the simple reality is that as long as you have supplies (assuming you are well stocked) you will be a prime target. The next step might be scavenging, that might go on for a long time for some stuff (a knife might last for many years) but not for others. And one by one you will get to the point where you either do without or find a way to replace them (hunting might help with food but you will need to farm to add something more to the meal, you might have a few outfits/shoes and you might patch them, but sooner or later you will need to make your own outfits/cloth and shoes, bullets get used up fast, so you will need to build your own weapons).... and that means needing to rebuild some sort of society since a single person or a single family can't do that by themselves (being a large group also helps against attacks from rival groups.

and i've been outside before when the temp was close to 20 below zero. and yes, i spent more than just a few minutes out there. i realize i didn't spend more than a couple hours, like might be required for this "event", but i have been where it gets cold, so don't assume that just because i'm in alabama i've never been anywhere THAT cold.

and about the fire (again), i've done that before with no problems. if done correctly, it can be controlled. sure, preparations must be made; but again that's one of the things i'm talking about here......preparations.

and you speak of keeping meat frozen. if you go back and read one of me previous posts, i talk about going up into the mountains just below the snow line. i then go on to talk about using the snow to keep frozen things frozen as well as using the snow for other things.

i've been through an ice storm. we lost power for a few days. it was difficult, but we cam through it. again, it was nothing like a world-wide catastrophe, but i have been through things like that.

a lot of people assume that just because i/e live in alabama that we have no idea how to survive really cold winters. well, some of us do.

You missed the point, I never assumed you don't know what you are talking about just because you are from Alabama, I brought up the ice storm because you said

"we don't have a fireplace in my home, but you can be damn sure i could build a fire in here if we needed it for warmth or to cook"

And I pointed out some people had that same dumb idea with extremely bad consequences. Obviously in an EOW discussion it is not like the ice storm where there were much better alternatives and if you really don't have a choice you don't have a choice. but it is not smart to have a large enough fire (one that can heat up or cook food) going in the home without proper ventilation of the smoke. It can easily be lethal.