480p 1080i question - Blu-ray Forum

scarpi · 02-26-2008, 10:00 PM

Being new to Blu-ray, I have a question that some of you probably can answer. I have a new Sony BDP - S2000ES player. It is connected to a Mitsubishi 65 inch CRT HDTV that I bought in 2001. The best connection this tv has is component video connections so I had to connect my new blu-ray player via component video. The tv also has settings for 480p or 960i. As you know the Sony player can be set at 480i, 480p, 720p, or 1080i, via its' component outputs. When I set the player to 1080i I don't see any picture. But with it set at 480p or 720p, I do. My question is what setting do I set on the tv and blu-ray player to get the best video results on DVDs and any new blu-ray discs I buy? And yes I plan on buying a new tv with the HDMI connection in a couple of years. But this tv has a fantastic picture and works great.
Thanks for any info.

rigsgoneblu · 02-26-2008, 10:17 PM

720P as long as the tv can handle that. Truly though you are wasting your $$$ on Blu-ray if you don't get a new tv. The picture in 1080P is so amazing you will never watch your old tv again.

Rigs

scarpi · 02-26-2008, 10:24 PM

Yeah, I knew that when I bought the player, but you know a new 65 inch plasma costs $$$$. I decided to buy the player because the format war is over and now I can just buy blu-ray discs that will look fantastic on a new tv, even though with the current tv, they will only look a little better than DVDs.

So I should set the player to 720p, but what do I set my tv to? I have two choices on the tv, 480p or 960i, or does it not matter what the tv is set to?
I'm a little confused but I do appreciate your help.

Squozen · 02-26-2008, 11:34 PM

A 65 inch CRT??? You mean a rear projection set?

What's the model number? All the Mitsubishi 65" RPTVs I can see online accept 1080i...

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 03:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Squozen

A 65 inch CRT??? You mean a rear projection set?

What's the model number? All the Mitsubishi 65" RPTVs I can see online accept 1080i...

Yes it is a 65 inch widescreen CRT rear projection set. The model number is WS 65907. It was their 65 inch Diamond series. It is a great tv and at the time it was their best 65 incher. I bought this tv new in 2001.

Sith · 02-27-2008, 03:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

Yes it is a 65 inch widescreen CRT rear projection set. The model number is WS 65907. It was their 65 inch Diamond series. It is a great tv and at the time it was their best 65 incher. I bought this tv new in 2001.

If your tv won't accept a 720p or 1080i signal, you may only get it in
480p, which basically is watching a real expensive dvd

Sith · 02-27-2008, 03:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

Yes it is a 65 inch widescreen CRT rear projection set. The model number is WS 65907. It was their 65 inch Diamond series. It is a great tv and at the time it was their best 65 incher. I bought this tv new in 2001.

be a great tv for kid/wife/mom after you have to upgrade due to technical
issues

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 03:59 AM

You know I'm learning here and I think I just discovered why I can't see 1080i from my player on this tv. It is because the component video cables from my player are connected to the component video inputs (480i, 480p)on the tv. My HD cable box is connected to the DTV (1080i) component video inputs on my tv. And there is only one set of DTV 1080i component inputs on this tv. So here is another question, can I buy some kind of Y splitter that will give me two DTV 1080i component connections from one on the back of the tv? Since I only watch one at a time they should not interfere with each other. Or am I just dreaming??? You guys are really helping me out here. If I can do this, I can watch 1080i blu-rays instead of 480p.

WriteSimply · 02-27-2008, 04:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

So here is another question, can I buy some kind of Y splitter that will give me two DTV 1080i component connections from one on the back of the tv? Since I only watch one at a time they should not interfere with each other. Or am I just dreaming??? You guys are really helping me out here. If I can do this, I can watch 1080i blu-rays instead of 480p.

You mean something like this?

ALTONA 4 Port Component Video Switch w/ IR Learning from Monoprice.com

You better run your audio via a receiver though. Start saving up for a new TV next year.

fuad

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 04:10 AM

My audio runs through my B&K Reference 30 home theater preamp out to my amp. So am I on the right track just getting a splitter so I can connnect my player and cable box to the same DTV inputs on the back of the tv? This info is very helpful!!!
Thanks,
Don

WriteSimply · 02-27-2008, 04:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

My audio runs through my B&K Reference 30 home theater preamp out to my amp. So am I on the right track just getting a splitter so I can connnect my player and cable box to the same DTV inputs on the back of the tv?

Yep. If you have an upconverting DVD player (why would you need one when you have the BD player), you can hook it up to this switch too. Or if you have another HD source.

Since this switch box is operated by IR, you might wanna invest in a Harmony so that it can do all of the switching for you (inputs for the TV, switch box and receiver) at a press of a button.

fuad

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 04:29 AM

OK one more question I have. Why does it have to be another box. Don't they make component video connectors that are like a "Y". You know where one plug makes two so I can plug six cables into the back of the tv instead of three. This is kind of hard to picture but two plugs go into one. It seems that if I'm only using one device at a time (either the blu-ray player or the cable box) that is the only signal going through to the tv so I would not need a box.

WriteSimply · 02-27-2008, 04:51 AM

So you're saying that you're too cheap?

Just kidding. This switch box is a good way to do it since you may have other people who would want to watch BDs if you're not around. But if you're the sole operator of your home theater and you're the only one who knows how it all works, then you can basically use this high tech device.

US$6.99 from Amazon. It's for composite video and stereo signal splitting for the olden components. But component video should work out fine.

fuad

reider · 02-27-2008, 05:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

OK one more question I have. Why does it have to be another box. Don't they make component video connectors that are like a "Y". You know where one plug makes two so I can plug six cables into the back of the tv instead of three. This is kind of hard to picture but two plugs go into one. It seems that if I'm only using one device at a time (either the blu-ray player or the cable box) that is the only signal going through to the tv so I would not need a box.

This is what you are looking for:

http://www.monoprice.com/products/pr...seq=1&format=2

Beware though that any passive not terminated, non isolated switchers/splitters as shown above are making video signal susceptible to interferences and can cause signal losses up to 3db (half the signal level). That is why switch/split boxes with isolation and amp circuitry are preferable.

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 12:36 PM

Thanks, you guys are great! It sounds that the best idea is a switch box for component cables. I'm heading out to my local electronics store. This is only a temporary fix until I replace my tv. At least until that time I will be able to watch blurays in 1080i.

smurfy · 02-27-2008, 04:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by WriteSimply

It's for composite video and stereo signal splitting for the olden components. But component video should work out fine.

The fact that component and composite use the same connectors does not make them in any way compatible at all whatsoever.

gearyt · 02-27-2008, 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by scarpi

Yes it is a 65 inch widescreen CRT rear projection set. The model number is WS 65907. It was their 65 inch Diamond series. It is a great tv and at the time it was their best 65 incher. I bought this tv new in 2001.

I have the 73903, very simular.. The upgrade to Blu-ray is a good choice, my wife noticed the difference, and you can expand your library while you save for the next toy...

scarpi · 02-27-2008, 09:21 PM

Well, I just want you guys to know that I bought a JVC 1080i component video switcher so I can connect both my HD cable box and my Bluray player to the DTV 1080i component input on the back of my tv. It works great, my cable tv is in hidef and my bluray discs are now displayed in 1080i instead of 480p. I know that is not as good as 1080p but it will suffice until I get a tv that has 1080p resolution. I could not have done it without all the help and info from this forum. Thanks guys!!
Don in Phoenix!

02-26-2008, 10:00 PM	#1
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	480p 1080i question Being new to Blu-ray, I have a question that some of you probably can answer. I have a new Sony BDP - S2000ES player. It is connected to a Mitsubishi 65 inch CRT HDTV that I bought in 2001. The best connection this tv has is component video connections so I had to connect my new blu-ray player via component video. The tv also has settings for 480p or 960i. As you know the Sony player can be set at 480i, 480p, 720p, or 1080i, via its' component outputs. When I set the player to 1080i I don't see any picture. But with it set at 480p or 720p, I do. My question is what setting do I set on the tv and blu-ray player to get the best video results on DVDs and any new blu-ray discs I buy? And yes I plan on buying a new tv with the HDMI connection in a couple of years. But this tv has a fantastic picture and works great. Thanks for any info. Last edited by scarpi; 02-26-2008 at 10:15 PM.

02-26-2008, 10:24 PM	#3
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	Yeah, I knew that when I bought the player, but you know a new 65 inch plasma costs $$$$. I decided to buy the player because the format war is over and now I can just buy blu-ray discs that will look fantastic on a new tv, even though with the current tv, they will only look a little better than DVDs. So I should set the player to 720p, but what do I set my tv to? I have two choices on the tv, 480p or 960i, or does it not matter what the tv is set to? I'm a little confused but I do appreciate your help. Last edited by scarpi; 02-26-2008 at 10:41 PM.

02-26-2008, 11:34 PM	#4
Squozen Senior Member Member since:Jan 2008 Location:Melbourne, Australia Home Theater Gallery:17 Blu-ray collection:80	A 65 inch CRT??? You mean a rear projection set? What's the model number? All the Mitsubishi 65" RPTVs I can see online accept 1080i... Last edited by Squozen; 02-26-2008 at 11:46 PM.

02-27-2008, 12:36 PM	#15
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	Thanks, you guys are great! It sounds that the best idea is a switch box for component cables. I'm heading out to my local electronics store. This is only a temporary fix until I replace my tv. At least until that time I will be able to watch blurays in 1080i. Last edited by scarpi; 02-27-2008 at 01:45 PM.

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02-26-2008, 10:17 PM	#2
rigsgoneblu Member Member since:Dec 2007 Location:Chicago	720P as long as the tv can handle that. Truly though you are wasting your $$$ on Blu-ray if you don't get a new tv. The picture in 1080P is so amazing you will never watch your old tv again. Rigs

02-27-2008, 03:59 AM	#8
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	You know I'm learning here and I think I just discovered why I can't see 1080i from my player on this tv. It is because the component video cables from my player are connected to the component video inputs (480i, 480p)on the tv. My HD cable box is connected to the DTV (1080i) component video inputs on my tv. And there is only one set of DTV 1080i component inputs on this tv. So here is another question, can I buy some kind of Y splitter that will give me two DTV 1080i component connections from one on the back of the tv? Since I only watch one at a time they should not interfere with each other. Or am I just dreaming??? You guys are really helping me out here. If I can do this, I can watch 1080i blu-rays instead of 480p.

02-27-2008, 04:10 AM	#10
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	My audio runs through my B&K Reference 30 home theater preamp out to my amp. So am I on the right track just getting a splitter so I can connnect my player and cable box to the same DTV inputs on the back of the tv? This info is very helpful!!! Thanks, Don

02-27-2008, 04:29 AM	#12
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	OK one more question I have. Why does it have to be another box. Don't they make component video connectors that are like a "Y". You know where one plug makes two so I can plug six cables into the back of the tv instead of three. This is kind of hard to picture but two plugs go into one. It seems that if I'm only using one device at a time (either the blu-ray player or the cable box) that is the only signal going through to the tv so I would not need a box.

02-27-2008, 04:51 AM	#13
WriteSimply Blu-ray Ninja Member since:Sep 2006 Location:Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia	So you're saying that you're too cheap? Just kidding. This switch box is a good way to do it since you may have other people who would want to watch BDs if you're not around. But if you're the sole operator of your home theater and you're the only one who knows how it all works, then you can basically use this high tech device. US$6.99 from Amazon. It's for composite video and stereo signal splitting for the olden components. But component video should work out fine. fuad

02-27-2008, 09:21 PM	#18
scarpi Member Member since:Feb 2008	Well, I just want you guys to know that I bought a JVC 1080i component video switcher so I can connect both my HD cable box and my Bluray player to the DTV 1080i component input on the back of my tv. It works great, my cable tv is in hidef and my bluray discs are now displayed in 1080i instead of 480p. I know that is not as good as 1080p but it will suffice until I get a tv that has 1080p resolution. I could not have done it without all the help and info from this forum. Thanks guys!! Don in Phoenix!

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