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Old 10-22-2012, 12:30 AM   #12741
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Considering that there is an SRP of $30 per disk, which is what the current pre-order is through Best Buy. I have no doubt that it will go on sale, but I don't see it dropping lower than $25 per film. Considering how close it is to the holiday season, I just don't think this will drop under $25 for quite some time. New Line is going to want to maximize their profits on this particular release of each film.

Do I think that price will drop under $25? It's possible, but considering that it's going to be a new release. Amazon currently has each film set at the pre-order price of $25 each, roundabout. But, I also expect them to raise that price back up to $30 after the end of the street date release sale.

Over time, I do expect that the price would drop, but considering that these are 5-disk sets, it may be some time before that eventually happens. The one good thing going for these individual releases is the cover art:

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Fel...+the+rings+blu

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Tow...+the+rings+blu

http://www.amazon.com/Lord-Rings-Ret...+the+rings+blu

The new cover art on the Blu-ray single releases is gorgeous, I wish this cover art was available for current owners of the Blu-rays. But, in any rate, this is just mere theorizing on my part, so don't take it for fact.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:15 AM   #12742
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That greedy Peter Jackson is trying to drain my wallet. Why are these longer versions so pricey? They should be cheaper since the color is off. It really burns my arse when they slip some cutting floor outtakes into a theatrical edition then charge double for the extended edition. I refuse to buy the EE's unless they go on sale for $10 each at most.
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Old 10-22-2012, 03:48 AM   #12743
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I've got the extended trilogy collection. I just wish someone would PM me their ultraviolet codes. The collection came out before ultraviolet. It's kind of a bummer.
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Old 10-22-2012, 05:56 AM   #12744
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I kept telling everybody on here that they should wait until the Extended Edition was released. New Line really isn't very intelligent. They pulled this same trick with the DVD release of the Extended Edition.

Announcing just weeks prior to the release of the Standard Edition of the trilogy that they were releasing the Extended Edition a few months later. While the Blu-ray version came out about a year later after the standard edition, I find it humorous that some complain about double dipping. Well, everyone knew that the Extended Edition would be released, so who's fault is that really?

Everyone jumped and purchased the standard edition trilogy instead of waiting. I waited because I knew the Extended Edition would be released, eventually and I'm glad that I did. Not only did I wait until the price dropped to $50 during last year's black friday holiday sale, but that I also used this $35 gift card that I got for free from best Buy over a customer service problem.

In reality, I only paid $15 for the boxed set, which was originally priced at $80. While I feel for everyone about double dipping, I always wait until after the street date release because eventually, that price is going to drop. lols Besides, you guys are forgetting one thing, these release contain "five disks" with each movie. You're actually getting a lot of stuff in that $25-$30 purchase for each film.
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Old 10-22-2012, 06:37 AM   #12745
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I hear ya, kemcha.

Myself, I have both sets, Extended and Original versions, but that was intentional. I bought the Extended boxed set first, because they're my own preferred versions of the films; but then when the "Theatrical" (I have trouble calling it that, because to me you don't watch films in a theatre) set could be had for about £10 ex-VAT I grabbed it, because I was frankly curious about those versions that I hadn't seen since they were first in the cinemas.

I can enjoy both versions, though it's a pity that both sets are marred with one or more dodgy transfers. If newer, better transfers (at least of the sub-par ones) come out post-Hobbit, I guess I'll be buying these films yet again. (And grumbling just a bit in the process, no doubt. )
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:00 AM   #12746
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I don't really consider buying the theatrical and extended editions as "double dipping." It's not like it was some cutting room floor "junk" thrown into the theatrical versions to create the extended editions. They really are two completely different films. Therefore, I don't have ANY issues at all with buying both of them. If it was one or two scenes, or changes that didn't really impact the story at all, then yeah, I can see the angst from people. But this is more than just a few extra scenes. It really develops the story a hell of a lot more and is, for all intents and purposes, a completely different film.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:19 AM   #12747
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I picked up the theatrical disks at Wal-Mart's black Friday sale last year, but thats pretty much it. Given the color-timing issue and the overall laziness of Warner Bros. extended edition blu-ray sets, I'll be happy to stick with the Extended edition DVDs until they decide to fix the green tint problem on fellowship.

Those gift box editions are being buried with me anyway, no matter what type of super-uber-deluxo mega set WB Home video decides to put out in the future
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:55 AM   #12748
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That greedy Peter Jackson is trying to drain my wallet. Why are these longer versions so pricey? They should be cheaper (#1) since the color is off. It really burns my arse when they slip (#2) some cutting floor outtakes into a theatrical edition then charge double for the extended edition. [b](#3) I refuse to buy the EE's unless they go on sale for $10 each at most.[b]
#1. -> It's not nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be.

#2. -> This extended content is anything but "cutting floor outtakes."

#3. Best of luck with that one.

Sounds like you don't really want these anyways. They are easily worth tye $60 boxset price.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:11 PM   #12749
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Everyone jumped and purchased the standard edition trilogy instead of waiting. I waited because I knew the Extended Edition would be released, eventually and I'm glad that I did. Not only did I wait until the price dropped to $50 during last year's black friday holiday sale, but that I also used this $35 gift card that I got for free from best Buy over a customer service problem.
Personally I wish they had released both versions in one set together. I also wish that there was a version/option to have each extended version on one disc rather than split into two. I know there would be a small sacrifice in quality, but IMO it would be a small price to pay for the convenience, especially if it existed as an alternate option, allowing those who want the higher quality versions with each film on 2 discs to still get what they want.

That being said, I did wait for good prices on these. Ironically I'm really not that big of a fan of these movies, but still wanted them in my collection, and I wanted both versions.

I bought the theatrical versions individually for about $7 each when they got to that price at one point, and then I got the extended edition set during that sale that you mentioned. So all in all it wasn't too bad.

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You're actually getting a lot of stuff in that $25-$30 purchase for each film.
Only if you don't already own the equivalent DVDs. Correct me if I am wrong, but as far as I can tell, the theatrical versions and the extended editions simply comes with the exact same DVD special features discs that the actual DVD editions came with. There's nothing new, different, or special about them. It would have been nice to have as much of that content as possible on Blu-Ray in HD, or at least in the case of the extended editions, had the 3 DVD bonus discs that each one comes with consolidated down to a single bonus Blu-Ray disc for each movie. Even if the content was still in SD, at least this would be more efficient.

Though regardless, getting the exact same content again (and not even in HD) hardly makes the cost worth while unless the person buying it never owned the DVD versions. And even then it's still arguably questionable.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:25 PM   #12750
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It really burns my arse when they slip some cutting floor outtakes into a theatrical edition then charge double for the extended edition.
AHHHA HA HA HA HA

*ahem*

So, you haven't seen LOTR EE, then, I take it.
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Old 10-22-2012, 07:51 PM   #12751
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I'd like to buy unused and working Lord of the Rings Extended Edition UltraViolet codes if anyone is selling them. Must be Extended Edition & not Theatrical and it must be from the Blu-ray discs not DVDs. I am not interested in iTunes. Thanks.
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Old 10-22-2012, 08:41 PM   #12752
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I'm not complaining because I only paid $15 for the Extended Edition Blu-ray set. It was just fortunate for me that Best Buy customer service sent me a complimentary $35 gift card because of problems I encountered with their customer service. It was $25 until they increase it by another $10 because of the holiday season.

I had just opted to just use that gift card to purchase the Lord of the Rings Blu-ray collection. I figure at the actual $15 that I paid for the set, it was a real bargain deal for the set. At $5 for each movie, brand new, still sealed in the original packaging, I did get a real good deal on the set.
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Old 10-22-2012, 11:58 PM   #12753
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#1. -> It's not nearly as bad as some people are making it out to be.
Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there and quite distracting. No amount of intentional blindness or lame-ass animated GIFs will negate that.

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Old 10-23-2012, 12:17 AM   #12754
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Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there and quite distracting. No amount of intentional blindness or lame-ass animated GIFs will negate that.
Actually, he never said it wasn't there. Second, there IS something that negates that it is distracting - personal opinion.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:24 AM   #12755
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Just because you can't see it doesn't mean it's not there and quite distracting. No amount of intentional blindness or lame-ass animated GIFs will negate that.
I didn't say that it doesn't exist and I'm not denying that it doesn't. However, personally, I can't see it even if I'm looking for it with outside samples to compare it with. So, it's a non-issue for me. But, you have to admit that there has been a rather impressive number of posts since the EE release saying "Once I finally decided to see it in action for myself, it wasn't nearly as bad as it looks in the stills posted online." That's all I'm getting at.

It may be there and you might be able to notice it. But it's not anywhere as bad as it is being made out to be by most of the haters. There is definitely a fair amount of hyperbole going on by some of the main supporters of the "anti-EE-FOTR" movement.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:49 AM   #12756
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It may be there and you might be able to notice it. But it's not anywhere as bad as it is being made out to be by most of the haters. There is definitely a fair amount of hyperbole going on by some of the main supporters of the "anti-EE-FOTR" movement.
See, this is where you lose people. Sure some might think it's not that bad but just like anyone else that's an opinion. Lumping those that do think it's bad in the "hater" category just comes off as being dismissive. By the same token then others could be just as dismissive of your opinion.

The fact is that crushed blacks can (and have) been measured and that results in reduced shadow detail. Now whether you personally notice it or not is your eyes, your gear and your opinion. Everyone's entitled to one. Unfortunately there's no denying that what's encoded on the disc are blacks which are crushed. They're there, it's verifiable.

As for the teal, well yes, that's been shown to be there too. Again, it's verifiable. If you don't notice it, cool. Don't lump all those that do as haters. Doesn't help your standing by doing so.

I'm not a hater. I love LOTR. I love the extended editions. I think Peter Jackson is an excellent film maker and the cinematography of the films is excellent. So if I (or many others) decide to take issue with what's presented on the disc then perhaps it's for reasons other than "let's bash Peter Jackson/New Line/whatever" or "LET'S BE ANGRY AT SOMEONE TODAY!". Maybe it's because we're interested in a presentation of the film that shows the film in the best possible light (preferably not an entirely teal one).

Yeah, there are people that get out of hand... on both sides. There are (if I must use a label) just as many people prone to gushing as there are bashing.
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Old 10-23-2012, 12:59 AM   #12757
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See, this is where you lose people. Sure some might think it's not that bad but just like anyone else that's an opinion. Lumping those that do think it's bad in the "hater" category just comes off as being dismissive. By the same token then others could be just as dismissive of your opinion.

The fact is that crushed blacks can (and have) been measured and that results in reduced shadow detail. Now whether you personally notice it or not is your eyes, your gear and your opinion. Everyone's entitled to one. Unfortunately there's no denying that what's encoded on the disc are blacks which are crushed. They're there, it's verifiable.

As for the teal, well yes, that's been shown to be there too. Again, it's verifiable. If you don't notice it, cool. Don't lump all those that do as haters. Doesn't help your standing by doing so.

I'm not a hater. I love LOTR. I love the extended editions. I think Peter Jackson is an excellent film maker and the cinematography of the films is excellent. So if I (or many others) decide to take issue with what's presented on the disc then perhaps it's for reasons other than "let's bash Peter Jackson/New Line/whatever" or "LET'S BE ANGRY AT SOMEONE TODAY!". Maybe it's because we're interested in a presentation of the film that shows the film in the best possible light (preferably not an entirely teal one).

Yeah, there are people that get out of hand... on both sides. There are (if I must use a label) just as many people prone to gushing as there are bashing.
It also could be because a good percentage of people reading this are sick to death of hearing about it. It's been done to death umpteen times already. There's literally no new info/opinions/points about it anymore. Everything that can be posted about it HAS BEEN ad nauseam. Everyone's entitled to post what they want, but at this point it's the very definition of the word overkill...
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Old 10-23-2012, 01:06 AM   #12758
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It also could be because a good percentage of people reading this are sick to death of hearing about it. It's been done to death umpteen times already. There's literally no new info/opinions/points about it anymore. Everything that can be posted about it HAS BEEN ad nauseam. Everyone's entitled to post what they want, but at this point it's the very definition of the word overkill...
Just maybe they are hoping that enough bellyaching will get results, and we get a corrected Fellowship EE disc.

After all, Francis Ford Coppola mentioned that the OAR for the Apocalypse Now Blu-ray was chosen to quite the complainers of the previous OAR iterations that were in earlier home media.

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Old 10-23-2012, 01:12 AM   #12759
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It also could be because a good percentage of people reading this are sick to death of hearing about it.
Yeah, that's understandable. Puzzles me, though, that people don't seem to get sick of writing or hearing unprompted comments like "The teal's nowhere near as bad as some people pretend it is." Why not object to that as well, if it's just the subject that you're objecting to?

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It also could be because a good percentage of people reading this are sick to death of hearing about it. It's been done to death umpteen times already. There's literally no new info/opinions/points about it anymore. Everything that can be posted about it HAS BEEN ad nauseam. Everyone's entitled to post what they want, but at this point it's the very definition of the word overkill...
But what's overkill? The people saying, "Yuck, hate the colour change", or the people saying that the people who hate the colour change shouldn't be having that opinion?

That's something I don't get about some of the people on this and similar threads (like the Terminator ones, for instance) : they put all their energy into trying to stop other people from having a different opinion, and resort to personal slagging to call the other people's judgement, intelligence and even their character into question. For what? Just so no-one voices an opinion different from theirs? Now that's overkill.

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Yeah, that's understandable. Puzzles me, though, that people don't seem to get sick of writing or hearing unprompted comments like "The teal's nowhere near as bad as some people pretend it is." Why not object to that as well, if it's just the subject that you're objecting to?


But what's overkill? The people saying, "Yuck, hate the colour change", or the people saying that the people who hate the colour change shouldn't be having that opinion?

That's something I don't get about some of the people on this and similar threads (like the Terminator ones, for instance) : they put all their energy into trying to stop other people from having a different opinion, and resort to personal slagging to call the other people's judgement, intelligence and even their character into question. For what? Just so no-one voices an opinion different from theirs? Now that's overkill.
Well, if you read my post CAREFULLY you'll see I didn't specify pro/con. I simply said it's overkill becuz there's nothing new to add on the subject that hasn't been repeated a thousand times-again, pro or con.
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