PS3 Final Fantasy XIII exclusivity

[Banjo]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

So far games don't look better on PS3. Maybe once they start pushing the PS3 towards it's limits. IGN.com has been comparing games that are on both systems and declaring 360 the winner.

Remember that these are still first-generation games on the PS3 while they're comparing it to the 2nd/3rd generation Xbox 360 games.

[Blu Tiger]

Originally Posted by Banjo

Remember that these are still first-generation games on the PS3 while they're comparing it to the 2nd/3rd generation Xbox 360 games.

I know. The 360 had a head start. That's why I said so far. I can't wait to see games on PS3 that push the system to it's limits.

[victorvondoom88]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

So far games don't look better on PS3. Maybe once they start pushing the PS3 towards it's limits. IGN.com has been comparing games that are on both systems and declaring 360 the winner.

Yeah but that is comparing titles availible on both which is mainly EA's lame ass attempts, they aren't even trying to take advantage of the bd-rom capabilities thats not a strike against the ps3 it should be a strike against the lazy developers who would rather ***** about the ps3 is hard to write for.
They said the same thing about the ps2 when it came out. It will take a few developers like Insomniac who are trying to push the envelope (R&C 5) before the other ones will start getting the picture.

And for the record my fight night round 3 doesn't look as bad as the pics they have in their comparison. It actually looks better than both versions they have posted. Maybe they should calibrate their displays. Now does it look better than the 360 I have no idea since I stopped buying games for it, well new ones anyway. I refuse to support a company that keeps f'n over their own customers.

Now as far as sony losing exclusives I hope this one in particular doesn't happen or any others actually.

[Blu Tiger]

I honestly think games suffer when they are multi-platform because they don't end up programming a game to it's fullest potential to take advantage of a specific consoles strengths.

[Musashi]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

But I'll put money on it that it goes multi-platform, just like they lost exclusivity with Devil May Cry 4, Grand Theft Auto 4, Assassin's Creed, Virtua Fighter 5, Fatal Inertia, Armored Core 4, and Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War.

Other than Devil May Cry and Virtua Fighter, last I checked most of those were multi-platform from the beginning, never announced as exclusives, so I wouldn't call them lost per se. Long as we're counting, didn't 360 lose exclusivity on Saint's Row?

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

It looks like Tekken 6 might not be PS3 exclusive either:

http://www.aeropause.com/archives/20...n_6_exclus.php

And rumors are that Metal Gear 4 is coming to the 360 as well too.

http://www.joystiq.com/2006/12/17/he...ps3-exclusive/

It looks like Sony is losing exclusives left and right.

There's also rumors that Elvis got kidnapped by aliens.

Those rumors are old news, nothing's been proven. And my money's on them and Final Fantasy 13/Vs13 staying on PS3.

RPGs like the main FF series have tended to be single-platform; there's more trouble involved with porting them over. For it to be done, there has to be sufficient reason to think the new userbase is big enough. Game Arts justified it with moving Lunar and Grandia to the PS.

Speaking of userbase, Final Fantasy's biggest spot is still Japan, and there is simply no consumer interest in 360 there. That's why it's unlikely to get ported.

[tr10av]

The reason we can't be losing exclusives is because games are going to be made with the lowest common factor. Developers aren't going to spend the extra money to make something look extra good on the PS3 when they can just switch it over. Take EA for example.

[MrBogey]

'ol, MrBogey, I didn't know gamespot.com was a Xbox fan boy. '

They're not. But the xbox fans who are taking a badly worded sentence to state that FFXIII is coming to the 360 are.

It's just FUD meant to depress sales of the PS3.

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by MrBogey

'ol, MrBogey, I didn't know gamespot.com was a Xbox fan boy. '

They're not. But the xbox fans who are taking a badly worded sentence to state that FFXIII is coming to the 360 are.

It's just FUD meant to depress sales of the PS3.

Yes, Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay basically said they're deciding weather or not FFXIII will be an exclusive or not. So it’s possible FFXIII might or might not be an exclusive. Like I said before, I prefer to hear the rumors, than to just ignore them.

So who’s the xbox fan you're talking about? I don’t think Kiddtigger is, since kiddtigger owns a PS3 and Xbox 360. Sony fans own a PS3, Xbox fans own Xbox 360. People who own both, like Kiddtigger and myself are neutral and a fan of both, why else would we have both?

I’ve read enough forums to know sony fans are just as bad as xbox fans blaming one another. So these type of comments are pointless.

Like I said before I wouldn't be surprise if FFXIII goes multiplatform. If it does, I think it will be release on PS3 first, then after 3 months, maybe up to a year later, it would be release on Xbox 360. Just like the Dynasty Warrior series was release on multiplatform.

"Each system has their good and bad games. Everyone is different, therefore everyone likes different things. I own both, I like them both. -MasterXeus"

[Kierre]

Remember when we lost Onimusha? I had been playing this game for years before it crossed over to other platforms, and pretty much no one was impressed with the XBOX version. There is a certain nostalgia, and commitment relative to the originally released games on the PS platform. That is lost when you bring something that has pre-existed on another platform (and doing very well I might add). I played both and Onimusha, as well as others just didn't feel... right. I think it's one of those scenarios where, a game of this magnitude ONLY feels right with Sony. This means for all intents and purposes, that the game is NOT the same on other platforms than originally intended, it's more like PS3 emulation on 360 that they paid just as much for.

[MrBogey]

Originally Posted by MasterXeus

Yes, Sony Computer Entertainment France president Georges Fornay basically said they're deciding weather or not FFXIII will be an exclusive or not. So it’s possible FFXIII might or might not be an exclusive. Like I said before, I prefer to hear the rumors, than to just ignore them. [/I]

He said they're discussing it. And since he's the first person to have even suggested it and it would be completely moronic for a Sony exec to hint at it losing its exclusivity we clearly can see the exec isn't the brightest cookie. And he isn't the one to decide if it'll be exclusive.

So who’s the xbox fan you're talking about? I don’t think Kiddtigger is, since kiddtigger owns a PS3 and Xbox 360. Sony fans own a PS3, Xbox fans own Xbox 360. People who own both, like Kiddtigger and myself are neutral and a fan of both, why else would we have both?

Some people will believe anything they're told. I'm not one of them.

The original thread title said that FFXIII was going multi-platform. Not that it possibly would.

[blitz6speed]

If sony loses FF13, it will be literally the biggest lost possible for the PS3. I would hope square wouldnt alienate their japanese fanbase by going to the 360, which has no install base whatsoever in their own territory.

[funkybudda]

hi,

no doubt FF and MSG series are very important 3rd party franchises that Sony needs to keep them as close as possible. However people need to realize Sony's strength in it's 1st and 2nd party developers.

Here's a list pulled from www.psu.com, Im not taking credit for this. It also list MS's 1st and 2nd party developer (which is quite a joke) but they have STRONG support in 3rd party, which is mostly multiplatform releases:

Sony first and second party Studios :

First Party Studios :
Sony Studio Santa Monica : God of War
Sony Studio San Diego : MLB '07: The Show (PS3)
989 Studios : NCAA GameBreaker 2005 ) ; NFL GameDay 2004
Sony Studio Foster City : Rise to Honour
Sony Online Entertainment : Untold legends (PS3)
Incognito : Warhawk
Naughty Dog : Uncharted : Drake's Fortune
Zipper Interactive : SOCOM
Sony Bend : Syphon Filter: The Omega Strain (PS2)
Idol Minds : Cool Boarders 2001 (PS2), PS3 project
Sony Studio Liverpool : Formula One CE (PS3), Wipeout PS3 (PS3)
Sony Studio Cambridge : Medievil (PSP et PS1), Primal (PS2), PS3 Project (PS3)
Sony Studio London : Eye-toy (PS2), Singstar (PS2), Buzz (PS2), The gateway (PS2), The Gateway PS3 (PS3), Eight Days (PS3), Singstar (PS3),
Guerrilla Games : Kill Zone 2 (PS3)
Polyphony Digital : Gran Tourismo
Clap Hanz : Minna no Golf 5 (PS3)
MuuMuu : Jumping Flash 3
Team Ico (SCEI - Studio 1) : ICO (PS2) et Shadow of the Colossus (PS2)
Team Siren (SCEI) : Siren (PS2), PS3 Project (PS3)
Shift (SCEI - Studio 2) : Ape Escape Academy (PSP)
Alvion (SCEI - Studio 3) : ?
Deep Space (SCEI - Studio 4) : Extermination (PS2)
Sugar & Rockets (SCEI - Studio 5) : Blood: The Last Vampire (PS2)
Cattle Call : Arc the Lad: End of Darkness (PS2)
Contrail : Legaia 2: Duel Saga (PS2)
Zener Works : OKAGE: Shadow King (PS2)
Shade : Granstream Saga (PS1), Orphen: Scion of Sorcery (PS2)
Cellius inc. (Sony Corp + Namco-Bandai, directed by ken Kutaragi) : PS3 projects
Media Molecule : LittleBigPlanet (PS3)



Second Party Studios :
Insomniac : Ratchet and Clank : Tools of Destruction (PS3), Resistance Fall of Man (PS3)
Sucker Punch : Sly Racoon, Sucker Punch Project (PS3)
Factor 5 : Lair (PS3)
Ready at Dawn : Daxter (PSP)
Harmonix : eye-toy games (PS2), Guitar Hero (PS2)
Snowblind Studios : Champions of Norrath (PS2)
Page 44 : Gretzky NHL [working title] (PS3)
High Impact Games : Ratchet & Clank: Size Matters (PSP)
thatgamecompany : flOw (PS3 EDI), PS3 project #2, PS3 project #3
Ninja Theory : Heavenly Sword (PS3)
Evolution Studios : MotorStorm (PS3)
BigBig : Pursuit Force (PSP)
Black Company : ?
Magenta Software : Stuart Little 3: Big Photo Adventure (PS2)
Level 5 : Dark Cloud 1 et 2 (PS2), Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King (PS2), Rogue Galaxy (PS2), White Knight Story (PS3)
Rhino Studios : Afrika (PS3)
Gaia : Monster Kingdom (PS3)
Media Vision : Wild ARMs 4 (PS2)
Game Republic : Genji 2 (PS3)
NanaOn-Sha : Parappa The Rapper (PS1), Vib Ribbon (PS1), Parappa The Rapper 2 (PS2)



Microsoft :

First Party Studios :
Rare : Perfect Dark
Forza Team : Forza Motorsport
Bungie : Halo
Lionhead Studios : Fable
Ensemble Studios : Age of Empire
Flight Simulator Team : Flight Simulator


Second Party Studios :
Mistwalker : Blue Dragon ; Lost Oddyssey
Realtime Worlds : Crackdown
FASA Interactive : Shadowrun

Again MS definitely has the edge now with 3rd party support, but looking at the list you should be confidant about Sony's other key assets - 1st and 2nd party development

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by MrBogey

He said they're discussing it. And since he's the first person to have even suggested it and it would be completely moronic for a Sony exec to hint at it losing its exclusivity we clearly can see the exec isn't the brightest cookie. And he isn't the one to decide if it'll be exclusive.



Some people will believe anything they're told. I'm not one of them.

The original thread title said that FFXIII was going multi-platform. Not that it possibly would.

True he said they're discussing it, which is what I said. You're also right that's he isn't the one to decide if it'll be exclusive or not, since that's falls to Square-Enix. Since he's the president of Sony in France, I'm sure he doesn't know anything either.

I'm glad to hear you're not one of those people that believes anything they're told, I'm with you, but like I said, I would perfer hearing a rumors and being perpared and the not listing and be caught off guard.

Ture original thread title said that FFXIII was going muli-platform, which was ammitted a mistake and change. Mistakes happen.

Bliz6speed, don’t worry about Sony losing FFXIII, You’re right if FF13 didn’t come out on PS3 they would alienate a lot of fans, but really the worst case is it will be multiplatform game.

Anyways, I don't believe FFXIII would go to the Wii, I now Final Fantasy games are on Nintendo, but I don’t think the Wii can handle the the graphics that will be on FFXIII, unless they downgrade and if the Wii can handle the graphics then FFXIII is no where close to pushing PS3 limits. If this is the case then I’ll be disappointed.

[Blu Tiger]

Originally Posted by Musashi

Other than Devil May Cry and Virtua Fighter, last I checked most of those were multi-platform from the beginning, never announced as exclusives, so I wouldn't call them lost per se. Long as we're counting, didn't 360 lose exclusivity on Saint's Row?


There's also rumors that Elvis got kidnapped by aliens.

Those rumors are old news, nothing's been proven. And my money's on them and Final Fantasy 13/Vs13 staying on PS3.

Actually Assassin's Creed, , Fatal Inertia, Armored Core 4, and Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War WERE slated to be PS3 exclusives, but they are now making their way to the 360. And the Grand Theft Auto series used to be playstation exclusive too. And I've read that the same source that leaked that Virtua Fighter 5 was going multi-platform (and it did) is the same source that leaked that the new Tekken game will be multi-platform so there must be something to that rumor.
And this article says it isn't a rumor that Metal Gear 4 is coming to the 360. It says it is fact. I guess you shouldn't believe everything you read though.

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Metal_Ge...ng_to_Xbox_360

[Amon37]

Originally Posted by kiddtigger

Actually Assassin's Creed, , Fatal Inertia, Armored Core 4, and Bladestorm: The Hundred Years' War WERE slated to be PS3 exclusives, but they are now making their way to the 360. And the Grand Theft Auto series used to be PS3 exclusive too. And I've read that the same source that leaked that Virtua Fighter 5 was going multi-platform (and it did) is the same source that leaked that the new Tekken game will be multi-platform so there must be something to that rumor.
And this article says it isn't a rumor that Metal Gear 4 is coming to the 360. It says it is fact. I guess you shouldn't believe everything you read though.

http://digg.com/gaming_news/Metal_Ge...ng_to_Xbox_360

How many DVD's is MGS4 going to be on for the 360...LMAO 4? 5? 6?

[joeorc]

Square Enix wants a three-way race
Publisher explains support for all next-gen consoles, saying it doesn't want Sony to be overwhelming winner or loser; no platform determined yet for next Kingdom Hearts.
By Brendan Sinclair, GameSpot
Posted Sep 26, 2006 11:06 am PT

Before the PlayStation 2 launched in 2001, Square Enix shares on the Tokyo Stock Exchange were trading for about 2,000 yen (about $17.07). The stock has had its ups and downs over the last five years, but these days it's trading for about 3,000 yen (about $25.61). Clearly a generation of Sony domination on the console gaming front--one in which Square Enix devoted its biggest games to the PS2--hasn't treated the publisher too harshly. But according to a company official, Square Enix wants the console wars to shake out a little differently this time around.

In a Wall Street Journal article about Sony's new system, Square Enix senior vice president Michihiro Sasaki told the paper, "We don't want the PlayStation 3 to be the overwhelming loser, so we want to support them. But we don't want them to be the overwhelming winner either, so we can't support them too much."

The article also says that Square Enix is planning to support Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo's consoles more evenly than it did in the last generation, having already committed two games to each system so far (Final Fantasy XI and Project Sylpheed for the Xbox 360, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers and Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors for the Wii, and Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII for the PS3).

And while Sony's system will still be home to the latest proper installments in the Final Fantasy franchise, the Wall Street Journal reports that Square Enix "hasn't yet decided" which console will play host to the Kingdom Hearts series going forward.


well there you have it......

And while Sony's system will still be home to the latest proper installments in the Final Fantasy franchise...straight from the developer

[Blackraven]

Jesus, I hope not!!!

FF 13 was meant to be the PS3-exclusive game that WOULD CRUSH any XBOX 360 GAME like a steamroller.

But after hearing news of this, I'm already fearing that this title would be contaminated my supporting the other side and that would mean losing another precious "exclusive".

I don't think give a damn about MGS 4 going multi-platform (since Konami is ALWAYS multi-platform since a decade ago)....but this, I just hope that the this article is a false rumor.

This was the game that WAS MEANT to settle the score with XBOX 360. But for it to lose its exclusivity....is just heartbreaking

For it's ONLY IN EXCLUSIVES that define the strengths of the console over its competition.

I pray pray that this title stays with the PS3 and I hope that on May 12th (during the Final Fantasy 20th day celebration party), there would be ZERO announcements declaring that FF13 will not be a Sony-exclusive title anymore

[joeorc]

Originally Posted by Blackraven

Jesus, I hope not!!!

FF 13 was meant to be the PS3-exclusive game that WOULD CRUSH any XBOX 360 GAME like a steamroller.

But after hearing news of this, I'm already fearing that this title would be contaminated my supporting the other side and that would mean losing another precious "exclusive".

I don't think give a damn about MGS 4 going multi-platform (since Konami is ALWAYS multi-platform since a decade ago)....but this, I just hope that the this article is a false rumor.

This was the game that WAS MEANT to settle the score with XBOX 360. But for it to lose its exclusivity....is just heartbreaking

For it's ONLY IN EXCLUSIVES that define the strengths of the console over its competition.

I pray pray that this title stays with the PS3 and I hope that on May 12th (during the Final Fantasy 20th day celebration party), there would be ZERO announcements declaring that FF13 will not be a Sony-exclusive title anymore

The article also says that Square Enix is planning to support Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo's consoles more evenly than it did in the last generation, having already committed two games to each system so far (Final Fantasy XI and Project Sylpheed for the Xbox 360, Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: The Crystal Bearers and Dragon Quest Swords: The Masked Queen and the Tower of Mirrors for the Wii, and Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy Versus XIII for the PS3).

chances of the xbox360 are prob..it will not get the game..this is from the developer..2 games for each system...straight from the developer

[MasterXeus]

Originally Posted by joeorc

well there you have it......

And while Sony's system will still be home to the latest proper installments in the Final Fantasy franchise...straight from the developer

I don’t want to start an argument, but I would like to point out this is from Sept. 2006, a lot can change in 6 to 7 months. If this statement made this month, it would hold more weight with me. My friend said they were talking about Final Fantasy XIII could be going multiplatform on G4 station, the video game station, just the yesturday.

[MrBogey]

Self-referential whisper campaigns don't count.