Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens (USE SPOILER TAGS!)

[Roonan]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Guys, this story is bunkus. Stop obssessing over it.

True.

[Indyjones]

Originally Posted by legendarymatt92

But is that what Disney are going for? Is that even what we want? I love all of the Star Wars films but the prequels are terribly written and directed, and two of the original trilogy aren't even directed by Lucas. We've had this discussion over and over again here so I don't want to dwell on it too much, but I'm just unsure if following the same formula is the right way to go.

Bad anaolgy. As far as writing and directing, no. I think the writer/director should put their own personal stamp on it, but at the same time, since it is a ST and a continuation of the saga - not a reboot, stay as faithful to the source as possible, without it looking like a Star Trek film or Avatar, but not look like Lucas was in the directors chair either. Creature/vehicle/set design, worlds, etc., All I'm hoping for is what we got in Empire - good directing/writing, and still keeps the magic and spirit of SW.

[segagamer12]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Vader wasn't in Episode I or II, and he's barely in III, why does he have to be in VII, VIII, or IX?

Guys, this story is bunkus. Stop obssessing over it.

First of all who cares if it is true or not, I already KNOW that it was a rumor, second of all are you kidding me? The entire prequel trilogy was all about vader, he sure as hell was the focus of those movies. Rumor or not what is the harm in speculating?

[Beast]

Originally Posted by segagamer12

First of all who cares if it is true or not, I already KNOW that it was a rumor, second of all are you kidding me? The entire prequel trilogy was all about vader, he sure as hell was the focus of those movies. Rumor or not what is the harm in speculating?

No. Anakin Skywalker was the focus. The iconic imagery of Darth Vader took up little more than a few minutes at the end of III.

[segagamer12]

Originally Posted by Beast

No. Anakin Skywalker was the focus. The iconic imagery of Darth Vader took up little more than a few minutes at the end of III.

It was still his story, everyone know who he was that was the big draw, to learn how Anakin became Vader. But I guess if you are just meaning the guy in the suit then yeah he was barely in the prequels.

[Beast]

Originally Posted by segagamer12

It was still his story, everyone know who he was that was the big draw, to learn how Anakin became Vader. But I guess if you are just meaning the guy in the suit then yeah he was barely in the prequels.

So... what's the reason to bother bringing him back? We saw his whole story. The Rise, Fall, and Redemption of Anakin Skywalker.

You yourself even just agreed that his story has been told now. We don't need a Post-Cremation "The Book Of Vader of Latter-Day Siths".

[Duffy12]

Originally Posted by legendarymatt92

People don't just go to see Star Wars because of Vader - yes, he is one of cinema's most iconic villains, but that doesn't mean the entire franchise rests on him. He doesn't need to come back at all -- they'll introduce another brilliant antagonist and that'll be that.

Disney know they'll get a return on their investment whatever crap they churn out when they put the Star Wars logo on it.

Exactly!!!!

I would LOVE to see Bill Nighy as the next main Star Wars villain.

[Beast]

Bill Nighy would be an interesting choice. But since he's already working for Disney...



Robert Carlyle would be sweet. Just change the make-up, give him a sweet black cloak, and a cool red lightsaber. Done.

From what I understand, he actually was considered for a role in Attack Of The Clones. Not sure if it was Dooku's or not.

The Full Wooky?

23 July 1999 | Studio Briefing - Film News | See recent Studio Briefing - Film News news »

George Lucas is considering casting Robert Carlyle, the star of Full Monty, The (1997), in Star Wars: Episode 2, according to published reports in Britain. The reports, which appeared in several tabloids on Wednesday and Thursday, said that Lucas was "impressed" with Carlyle's work and wants to work with him in his next film, although he hasn't figured out what role he would like him to play. Carlyle recently completed filming World is Not Enough, The (1999), the next James Bond movie, in which he plays the villain Reynard.

As far as I recall, Jango Fett was cast fairly early on. So the only other role I could think of him in would be Count Dooku's.

[aiman04]

We never saw Anakin burned to ashes, only his helmet and suit, and that ghost could have been Luke's imagination!

[aiman04]

Anyway guys, the movie has Star Wars: Episode VII in it's title. It will be continuing the saga. Skywalker family has always been the main story, and so it will continue to be as long as there are continuing episodes. So I believe at least Mark Hamill and Carrie Fisher will return, Lucas called them for a meeting in August, and so far Hamill only told reporters that Lucas told them about going ahead making VII, VIII and IX, that's it? I'm sure he was told more. They could be getting in shape right now to shoot next year.

When they mention "more movies well into the future", it will be standalones titled Star Wars: Adventures of the Sarlacc Pit, no more episode designation.

[legendarymatt92]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Vader wasn't in Episode I or II, and he's barely in III, why does he have to be in VII, VIII, or IX?

Guys, this story is bunkus. Stop obssessing over it.

Exactly - it's a fan rumour that has spread, and now people are expecting it to happen. And plus, we really need another villian for this new part; we can't keep resting on the same old characters just because we're used to them.

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

Frank Marshall would be an outstanding choice. Alive is one of my favorite films of the 90's.

It was brilliant but I'm not sure his style (if he has one) would work with Star Wars. His only other stand-out film was, for me, Arachnophobia, but that was more of a tense comedy than anything resembling sci fi fantasy.

Originally Posted by Indyjones

As far as writing and directing, no. But I think that as creature/set design, worlds, etc., that whoever ends up directing, doesn't stray too far away to the point that it no longer looks like or has the magic that SW has. Since the ST is a continuation of the Saga and not a reboot of sorts, I feel that it's important that they get the design of th film right. All I'm hoping for is what we got in Empire - good directing/writing, and still keeps the magic and spirit of SW.

Oh, that's true -- regardess of how bad a writer/director Lucas is, creatively he's amazing. That's why I'm glad that he's on board with this on some level; we need him if there's any chance this can become a great new instalment. Empire was the pinnacle of the series and that's because you could still sense Lucas had heavy involvement behind the scenes, but there was a director with a better sense of cinematic ideals.

[aiman04]

Frank Marshall is the producer?

"I don't think it changes anything. It's still open," he said of progress on a new "Indy" movie. "But it's really on the back burner and we're not really talking about it. 'Star Wars' is next, so that's what we're focusing on. 'Indy' is back there, but nothing has changed."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/169...marshall.jhtml

But of course he knows, he sleeps in the same bed with Kathleen Kennedy.

And I still think the director could be Joe Johnston. At least he hasn't deny it, more like covering up actually.

[legendarymatt92]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Frank Marshall is the producer?

"I don't think it changes anything. It's still open," he said of progress on a new "Indy" movie. "But it's really on the back burner and we're not really talking about it. 'Star Wars' is next, so that's what we're focusing on. 'Indy' is back there, but nothing has changed."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/169...marshall.jhtml

And I still think the director could be Joe Johnston. At least he hasn't deny it, more like covering up actually.

I guess he would be - his wife is now chairman of Lucasfilm, so I'm assuming he would be involved in production somehow.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by aiman04

Frank Marshall is the producer?

"I don't think it changes anything. It's still open," he said of progress on a new "Indy" movie. "But it's really on the back burner and we're not really talking about it. 'Star Wars' is next, so that's what we're focusing on. 'Indy' is back there, but nothing has changed."

http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/169...marshall.jhtml

But of course he knows, he sleeps in the same bed with Kathleen Kennedy.

And I still think the director could be Joe Johnston. At least he hasn't deny it, more like covering up actually.

Well if they're going to do Indy V they better not keep it on the back-burner for too long. Who knows how long Harrison Ford will still be able to play the role? I was impressed he could do it in 2008, let alone what could amount to another ten years later.

[Col. Zombie]

I'm really hoping that Joe Johnston gets the reigns for this one.

According to an interview with Frank Marshall...

Movies.com is putting their money on Joe Johnston. In the most recent video with Kathleen Kennedy and George Lucas talking about the future of Star Wars, "Kennedy says they're meeting with directors they've worked with in the past, and they obviously want a lover of the franchise; someone who holds the movies and characters close to their heart. Well Johnston is both close to Lucas and the franchise (specifically the original trilogy), and he's worked with Kennedy before on Jurassic Park III. In fact, Johnston even talked to Huffington Post about the prospect of him directing saying

Source...http://www.firstshowing.net/2012/fra...-to-two-names/

Of course Johnston is more than familiar with the OT...

Johnston began his career working as a storyboard artist for George Lucas – who recommended that the future director attend his own alma mater, USC film school, and continue to work for him. Johnston accepted the offer and went on to work for Lucas as a designer and visual effects art director on Star Wars, The Empire Strikes Back, and Return of the Jedi. He created the designs for some of the franchise’s most beloved characters and vehicles including: Yoda, the Ewoks, The Millennium Falcon, The X- and Y-Wing Fighters, The Imperial Snow Walkers, The Imperial Star Destroyer – and of course: Boba Fett.

Source... http://screenrant.com/captain-americ...-rothc-123936/

Of course, Johnston wanted to direct a Star Wars movie that centered around Boba Fett...

As we wait for Captain America: The First Avenger to hit theaters Friday (with lots of early screenings for Comic-Con audiences on Thursday), director Joe Johnston may have an even bigger project in mind. Since the filmmaker previously worked as a concept artist and effects technician on Star Wars and earned an Oscar nomination for Best Visual Effects on Raiders of the Lost Ark, the folks at ScreenRant asked if he had shown the film to George Lucas. Johnston's response sparks interest elsewhere, as he says, "You know if he wants to see it, I would show it to him. I’m trying to get George to make a feature based on Boba Fett."

That's right, apparently Johnston is in the process of trying to get George Lucas to make a feature length Star Wars film centered around everyone's favorite bounty hunter Boba Fett.

Source ... http://www.firstshowing.net/2011/joe...ave-star-wars/

I can't think of a more qualified director to do justice to the franchise, and I do like most of the movies he's done. Just hoping.

[Clark Kent]

Disney is now in control of the mothership, Lucas will have minimal input into future movies and Disney will likely pay him lip service for his "consulting" work.

Darth Vader will return in some form, he is by far the most popular character from the Star Wars universe and Disney will want his visage somewhere in the press advertising the new movie.

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Disney is now in control of the mothership, Lucas will have minimal input into future movies and Disney will likely pay him lip service for his "consulting" work.

Darth Vader will return in some form, he is by far the most popular character from the Star Wars universe and Disney will want his visage somewhere in the press advertising the new movie.

The introduction to Vader in the new series would be nothing more than fan-fare schtick, and probably do Disney more of a disservice to fans than a benefit. What's more, they know this.

While the prequel trilogy had the scenario leading up to Vader, and even outright allusions to him, you didn't see actually him until the last few minutes of the final film. Yet those first two movies (episodes I and II) still grossed ridiculous ammounts of money.

All the folks putting hope in seeing a resurrected Vader in the new films are living in a pipe dream. I'd bet my bottom dollar on it...not even a flashback. You might get Hayden's (Anakin's) ghost, but "cyborg" Vader, no, it won't happen. It doesn't matter how "popular" he was. On the contrary we're probably going to get a story with a new Sith Lord that is very intriuging, but Vader...no.

Everybody need to get over it. Vader's gone, and there is no coming back.

[Blu-21]

Originally Posted by Clark Kent

Darth Vader will return in some form, he is by far the most popular character from the Star Wars universe and Disney will want his visage somewhere in the press advertising the new movie.

That would just be a cheap marketing tactic which would signify just how little Disney care about quality. This is about advancing the story forward with something new and creative, not taking a step back by finding a way to bring back a character whose chapter has closed. Profiting isn't everything.

[Elandyll]

Well, to make everyone happy, they could open ep VII with a slow camera movement pulling away from Vader's Mask, progressively revealing the entire well known armor with a new variation on the Empire theme by Williams (and a very very faint raspy mechanical breathing in the background, that eventually fades away), but eventually the frame becomes large enough to see a figure in Jedi robes looking at a statue wearing the Vader outfit.

The figure shown from behind is motionless, until 1 or two other Jedis join Him, as he is revealed to be an old Jedi Master, Luke, joined by two of his students as they enter the new Hall of The Jedi temple. The Vader full size statue is there as both a sign of redemption,as well as a warning to always know that the Dark Side can be in all of us.

[Col. Zombie]

Originally Posted by Elandyll

Well, to make everyone happy, they could open ep VII with a slow camera movement pulling away from Vader's Mask, progressively revealing the entire well known armor with a new variation on the Empire theme by Williams (and a very very faint raspy mechanical breathing in the background, that eventually fades away), but eventually the frame becomes large enough to see a figure in Jedi robes looking at a statue wearing the Vader outfit.

The figure shown from behind is motionless, until 1 or two other Jedis join Him, as he is revealed to be an old Jedi Master, Luke, joined by two of his students as they enter the new Hall of The Jedi temple. The Vader full size statue is there as both a sign of redemption,as well as a warning to always know that the Dark Side can be in all of us.

That might be interesting. And more than that, something like you described might satiate the appetites of those who will destroy their parents' basement if Vader's not actually in it.