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Old 11-20-2012, 07:43 PM   #2661
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Thanks, no just the T Burton with Jack as the joker he made the movie.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:45 PM   #2662
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I loved this line in the review:



Over analyze plot holes???

Let's see...

Bruce Wayne travelling across the globe with nothing but prison robes in what seems to be a day's time.

To a lesser extent, Bane joining him at the prison to explain his punishment. I wonder how he went through airport security.

Or maybe the worst prison on Earth is actually in Connecticut?

The atomic bomb that will self detonate because of some sort of degradation but yet they have a timer on it that will count down to the precise second (and pretty lights to boot!)

The crazy, super hero ability of Batman to be save Catwoman, the Robin guy, and Commish Gordon at the last second. Must have a fast travel system or teleporter.

No cartilage, can barely walk... couple of braces and he is good as new!

And the biggest one that threw me right out of the film and almost ruined it for me...

After a documented attack on the Stock Exchange, Bruce Wayne, who gives billions to the city, makes an unbelievable and highly suspect stock transaction that costs him his fortune and forces him off the board of his company. Do they mount a serious investigation? Do they question Wayne?

Nope, the next morning they are towing his car and shutting off his power.
Thanks for everything Mr. Wayne, you are now a deadbeat.

Who wrote this script? an 8 year old?
Lol you think bane flew him and bruce to the prison commercially? What they hopped an american airlines? Your entire post lost credibility right there. Have you ever heard of private jets? Private jets do not use airport/ federal TSA security. The league of shadows surely own them and can get anywhere they want to. How the heck do you think bane got into the States in the first place?

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Old 11-20-2012, 07:48 PM   #2663
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Do you mean just the first 1989 movie, or the Anthology set with the first 3 movies and 1 parody movie?

I don't have them myself, but I've heard the PQ/AQ on Batman (1989) is serviceable, but nothing to write home about.

Batman: 20th Anniversary Edition DigiBook Review: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Batma...y/1170/#Review

The best AQ on the set is Batman Returns, since it was the first Batman movie to use 5.1 Dolby Surround in the theaters, getting 4.5/5 on the audio front by most reviewers. Batman & Robin has the best PQ on the set, since it's the newer of the 4 movies.

Batman: The Complete Motion Picture Anthology Review: https://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Batma...y/3660/#Review

On a side note, I don't own any of these movies on Blu, because after seeing BB and TDK, I made the same life choice a former crackhead makes after trying real coke for the first time: I'm never going back to the old stuff...
YIKES! I just noticed the price on all of those movies! Are they collector's items now, or something?
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:49 PM   #2664
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I just ordered the TDKR cowl addition from Amazon with the promise off a Dec 4 delivery,maybe Ill get it then.Is the T Burton Batman still alot of $ hows the pq on it? thanks
December 4th? Mine says 10th to 13th. Im thinking of canceling and just getting it at bestbuy. Im sure they'll have enough on day 1.

On another note. My mom and pop store has the combo pack available now. I had gotten TDK from them early also. But im not really feeling to pay $35.99 again to get the movie early.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:57 PM   #2665
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The point here is simple: Nolan follows the traditional route because of the color grading: he prefers the look of photochemical film grading opposed to computer color grading, it's not ignorance it's a stylistic choice.

There are still lots of people that think that vinyl is way better than CD for music, right? Nolan and Pfister have the right to choose film over digital....

The fact that 35mm film is no longer printed doesn't matter: the point here is the post-production of the movie not the release format of the movie! In fact Nolan is not against DCP 2K or 4K, he is against the digital post-production. The film THEN gets released digitally...
Would there be any sense in vinyl if no one had a record player?

Unless you are printing your color-timed IP to film, you might as well color grade the movie digitally, because an IP is an orange, low-contrast element, and the response of the print stock has to be digitally emulated either way.

Like I said, a good DI can look very much like a top-quality analog print. The IMAX scenes here, graded digitally, look more like their analog theatrical counterparts color-wise than the 35mm ones. You don't have to make everything teal and orange or whatever. I've read Pfister had a bad experience with a prehistoric DI on the 2003 The Italian Job... maybe he's still holding a grudge.
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Old 11-20-2012, 07:58 PM   #2666
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Sorry if this has already been answered, but there are way too many pages in this thread to look through. Does anyone know if the Target digibook will be sold in stores or is it online only?
I remember the website claimed that their Hunger Games exclusive was online only but it showed up in stores, so I'm hoping it's the same deal so I won't have to pay for shipping.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:01 PM   #2667
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I'm sorry if this has been asked, but can anyone who already has the blu-ray confirm whether or not there is an iTunes Digital Copy included (disc or DL I don't care).

I have no interest in Ultra Violet copies.

Thank you!
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:02 PM   #2668
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I'm sorry if this has been asked, but can anyone who already has the blu-ray confirm whether or not there is an iTunes Digital Copy included (disc or DL I don't care).

I have no interest in Ultra Violet copies.

Thank you!
Don't need the blu-ray to confirm, it's UV only.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:07 PM   #2669
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The point here is simple: Nolan follows the traditional route because of the color grading: he prefers the look of photochemical film grading opposed to computer color grading, it's not ignorance it's a stylistic choice.

There are still lots of people that think that vinyl is way better than CD for music, right? Nolan and Pfister have the right to choose film over digital....

The fact that 35mm film is no longer printed doesn't matter: the point here is the post-production of the movie not the release format of the movie! In fact Nolan is not against DCP 2K or 4K, he is against the digital post-production. The film THEN gets released digitally...
That makes sense, but then look at the 35mm scenes in TDK - No way that looks as intended, it looks very digital to me.

Thankfully, judging by screens and views so far it seems TDKR is faithful to the source.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:11 PM   #2670
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All this love for Bane's original voice, yet when I saw the prologue (on IMAX) I couldn't understand a word that the cat was saying. If y'all are saying that it's the performance which suffered when it was re-recorded, fair enough, but without a frame of reference (again: couldn't understand a word) I don't feel like somebody shit in my cereal.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:38 PM   #2671
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Probably because it wasn't filmed with 7.1.
I'm no expert but if it was filmed(recorded?) in 5.1 then I see no reason for the BD to have 7.1.
E.T. wasn't filmed in 5.1 or higher, and it received an excellent (insert air guitar) 7.1 mix on last month's BD release.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:46 PM   #2672
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I'm sorry if this has been asked, but can anyone who already has the blu-ray confirm whether or not there is an iTunes Digital Copy included (disc or DL I don't care).

I have no interest in Ultra Violet copies.

Thank you!
It only comes with an Ultra Violet copy.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:56 PM   #2673
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It only comes with an Ultra Violet copy.
Thank you Indiana Jones & jmbenesh

That's really disappointing...since getting an iPad 3 as a gift I actually care/use the iTunes digital copies. But since I watch them on trips (airplane) the UV copy does me no good.
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Old 11-20-2012, 08:59 PM   #2674
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E.T. wasn't filmed in 5.1 or higher, and it received an excellent (insert air guitar) 7.1 mix on last month's BD release.
Yes, but that's because they had plenty of space left over on the disc to do that. As I said in one of my earlier posts, TDKR's 5.1 DTS-HD MA track has received perfect scores on all of the review sites so far, which is a lot more than I can say for many other 7.1 re-purposings. E.T. was only 114 minutes long, whereas TDKR was 165 minutes, almost an hour longer than E.T. The only special feature they put on Disc 1 of TDKR was the Second Screen App, meaning they probably just about filled up the disc. If they were to add two extra channels, guess what would take a nosedive as a result? PQ. And you wouldn't want that to happen, would ya?...WOULD YA?!

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Old 11-20-2012, 09:01 PM   #2675
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I thought everyone was freaking out like a pack of howler monkeys over Bane's voice in the teaser prologue. Complaints were everywhere.

Talk about damned if you do, damned if you don't. They address the issue and now everyone is lamenting the change?
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:06 PM   #2676
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Lol you think bane flew him and bruce to the prison commercially? What they hopped an american airlines? Your entire post lost credibility right there. Have you ever heard of private jets? Private jets do not use airport/ federal TSA security. The league of shadows surely own them and can get anywhere they want to. How the heck do you think bane got into the States in the first place?
Thanks for making my point even more!

I guess Bruce flew back on this League of Shadows Express?
Did he upgrade to first class?

And of all my examples, you picked the one I had the least issue with, I think I even said "to a lesser extent".
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:09 PM   #2677
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Here's what I don't get... 35mm prints are virtually non-existent in theaters these days with the exception of smaller movie chains and mom and pop theaters/ drive-ins. Hell, some studios wont even be making 35mm prints anymore next year. So most theatres are showing films in HD at either 2K or 4K.

Why is it that studios are not just transferring the files used for the hard drives at the theatre level for Bluray? It seems that the general feeling is that the transfers are sometimes lacking on Bluray but looked great in theatres. So where in the transition of mediums is this occurring? There should be no reason for black crush, ringing, halos or any other image imperfections.

It just doesn't make sense to me.
It confuses me too.
TDKR looked great in 70mm IMAX but also in my local 2K digital theater.
Older 16mm films and 35mm films(dating back to the 50s) can look fantastic when given a proper scan.

TDKR still looks great IMO, especially the IMAX shots, but the 35mm photography should also be some of the best Blu-ray footage out there *because* it was done in a traditional photochemical process which should allow better color and more detail. I'm not saying it looks bad, it looks way more faithful and overall better than The Dark Knight's 35mm scenes. It just looks a lot softer and murkier than I expected.

Hopefully it's just the screenshots, and the film in motion will look a lot clearer.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:13 PM   #2678
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I thought everyone was freaking out like a pack of howler monkeys over Bane's voice in the teaser prologue. Complaints were everywhere.

Talk about damned if you do, damned if you don't. They address the issue and now everyone is lamenting the change?
But they addressed it poorly. The ADR is shocking, it's like narration, no atmospheres at all. The opening on the plane shows how bad it really is, their all shouting to be heard but Bane's as clear as anything. Bane was cast wrong from the off and ARD'ing the voice after just makes Tom Hardy David Prowse. You only see his face for like what, 10 seconds. Pointless, get someone proper built like a s**t house and get a proper voiceover artist to do the voice. Bingo. Instead we get Hardy sounding like Buffalo Bill. They gambled with Ledger's accent in the Dark Knight and it payed off, but sadly lightning didn't strike twice.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:21 PM   #2679
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But they addressed it poorly. The ADR is shocking, it's like narration, no atmospheres at all. The opening on the plane shows how bad it really is, their all shouting to be heard but Bane's as clear as anything. Bane was cast wrong from the off and ARD'ing the voice after just makes Tom Hardy David Prowse. You only see his face for like what, 10 seconds. Pointless, get someone proper built like a s**t house and get a proper voiceover artist to do the voice. Bingo. Instead we get Hardy sounding like Buffalo Bill. They gambled with Ledger's accent in the Dark Knight and it payed off, but sadly lightning didn't strike twice.
Disagree. Worked for me.
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Old 11-20-2012, 09:27 PM   #2680
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Saprano Ill check my order & see if they lied to me on the Dec.4 delivery date,ordering from a mom n pa store is a good idea Ive got one in my area
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