Why the extremely high price?

[JasonR]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I would like to know where you all found these cheap first gen dvd players. Mine was a Mitsu and it cost $699. Also there was a much bigger difference in picture quality. Going from VHS to DVD was stunning. The difference in picture from an upscaled dvd and bluray is not the same. Bluray is better, just not the same leap. I do remember the cost of dvd's back then. Most of the one's I got were around the $20 mark. Now the bluray's are 29.99 to 34.99. Also before you bash me, most reviews say that there is not a huge difference between upscaled dvd's and bluray.

[smitty4ut]

I am not saying that there is no difference. Bluray picture is better, but the experts say that it is not as big of a difference as it was going from vhs to dvd. I guess that as I get older, I don't just blindly accept as much crap from companies as I used to. It only cost this because people will buy it at that price. If they were not selling for that price, the the price would come down. Seems like some people will pay anything and think it is a great deal. And yes I do like a lot of the extras. I already have several thousand dollars in my system at home. My receiver will not support hdmi. Can't justify getting a new one until something goes wrong with the old one.

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I would like to know where you all found these cheap first gen dvd players. Mine was a Mitsu and it cost $699. Also there was a much bigger difference in picture quality. Going from VHS to DVD was stunning. The difference in picture from an upscaled dvd and bluray is not the same. Bluray is better, just not the same leap. I do remember the cost of dvd's back then. Most of the one's I got were around the $20 mark. Now the bluray's are 29.99 to 34.99. Also before you bash me, most reviews say that there is not a huge difference between upscaled dvd's and bluray.

Your setup sucks if you don't notice much of a difference. Blu-ray blows DVD out of the water.

[kccarl]

There is a good way to buy blu ray and a bad way. I say bad because I really mean a less expensive way. But, to access that way you have to be willing to wait a little while, sometimes a long while, then jump when you see sales.

I've found that blu rays go on sale all the time online, and less in main walk in stores. Keep you eyes on the hot deals forum here, watch for buy one get ones at amazon.com, watch jr.com. I'm sure there are others.

The way I do it is I scan these sites and wait for sales, then catch up on the movies I want to buy. When blu rays are NOT on sale at amazon, I made a list of the movies I'd like to own and wrote down the non-sales prices. I use that to compare so I know when an online place is acting they are having a sale as opposed to actually HAVING a sale. Its some up front work, but it pays off later on.

As an example, I really wanted Crimson Tide. It sold for 20.95 cents on amazon shortly after it first came out. A little while later, I was checking their prices and saw they had a sale on that one blu ray for 15.00. I called them on it and they refunded the diff.

Look for sales, look for price reductions. Never pay retail...

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I am not saying that there is no difference. Bluray picture is better, but the experts say that it is not as big of a difference as it was going from vhs to dvd. I guess that as I get older, I don't just blindly accept as much crap from companies as I used to. It only cost this because people will buy it at that price. If they were not selling for that price, the the price would come down. Seems like some people will pay anything and think it is a great deal. And yes I do like a lot of the extras. I already have several thousand dollars in my system at home. My receiver will not support hdmi. Can't justify getting a new one until something goes wrong with the old one.

What experts??

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I was a first gen dvd owner. I waited on the new formats until there was a winner. I just don't understand why bluray disk are so expensive. There doesn't seem to be any more on the disk than the regular dvds. I know the picture is better, but not $15 better. They have all this space and what are they using it for.

obviously not really we paid over $700 for our first dvd player then we got an extra one around x-mas like 1999 (big daddy on dvd early 2000 was like $25) that was like $350........ up until early 2006 dvd prices were still $18-23 for new movies so lets end the "im shocked" at these prices

Originally Posted by BruceWayne

What experts??

yeah really

[Invincible0427]

Originally Posted by Xerious

- better picture
- better sound
- better experience
- better durability

a theater-like experience in home nix the

- annoying high school kids
- sticky floors
- overpriced concessions
- t3h d34dly AIDS needlz in teh chairs!!!1!!!

i think it's worth 15 bucks more

Lmao...now is the stickyness on the floor from popcorn butter or from _ _ _ _ _ ????? Thats the question!

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by BruceWayne

Blu-ray blows DVD out of the water.

yeah it does lol up converted dvds on our PRO-150FD looks like crap compared to the blu-rays people are crazy

[smitty4ut]

No my setup doesn't suck. Why does everyone have to attack someone or there system. You think it will hurt my feelings or something. I did a lot of research and most of the reviews I have read are still saying that you might want to hold off buying a bluray, because of how cheap upscaling dvd players are and how little difference there is. Not that there isn't a difference, but that it is not huge. I will try and find some of the links I read.

[mdm1699]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I was a first gen dvd owner. I waited on the new formats until there was a winner. I just don't understand why bluray disk are so expensive. There doesn't seem to be any more on the disk than the regular dvds. I know the picture is better, but not $15 better. They have all this space and what are they using it for.

I am one for low prices and sales. However, I do get very annoyed when people assert that blu-ray is marginally better than dvd and doesn't deserve a premium. I hate dvds so bad now. I just cannot watch them. They are worse than my Comcast cable. It is better to just complain about prices like I do. Also, blame people like me who can't resist some titles even at full price. For example, on Tuesday 11 I will be getting:

No Country for Old Men @ $23.95
Independence Day @ 27.95
Hitman @ 27.95
I Robot @ 27.95

I am so weak.

[werewuf]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

Well I can get most dvd way below the msrp release day. Why doesn't bluray do the same.

Ya gotta watch the sales and watch for bogo's I got the 1st 4 Harry Potter's for $40 +plus tax. I have gotten many blu-rays for 14.99 as well.

[mdm1699]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

No my setup doesn't suck. Why does everyone have to attack someone or there system. You think it will hurt my feelings or something. I did a lot of research and most of the reviews I have read are still saying that you might want to hold off buying a bluray, because of how cheap upscaling dvd players are and how little difference there is. Not that there isn't a difference, but that it is not huge. I will try and find some of the links I read.

I don't even enjoy the movie theaters anymore. Ugly picture.

[Beta Man]

I would have to agree that the LEAP from VHS to DVD is greater than the Upconverted To Blu leap..... but the difference in Upconverted-to-Blu is still VERY noticeable..... so to each-his-own..... But DVD was very eye-opening when it first came out.

I don't think he ever said he couldn't really notice the difference..... he was just saying the jump wasn't as great as it was from VHS to DVD..... but I'd like to point out that the jump in price from DVD to Blu Ray was a lot higher from VHS to DVD, than it is for DVD to Blu.... and taking into account the CPI, it's staggering. That being considered, the decision to switch from Upconverted, to Blu, is an easier one to make.

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

No my setup doesn't suck. Why does everyone have to attack someone or there system. You think it will hurt my feelings or something. I did a lot of research and most of the reviews I have read are still saying that you might want to hold off buying a bluray, because of how cheap upscaling dvd players are and how little difference there is. Not that there isn't a difference, but that it is not huge. I will try and find some of the links I read.

Not attacking, I just feel bad for you if you don't notice the difference. Something is missing there if that's the case.

[supersix4]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

I did a lot of research and most of the reviews I have read I will try and find some of the links I read.

lol almost 99% of the people here have FIRST hand knowledge of blu-ray on High quality systems what some reviewer says doesn’t mean a thing to anyone here why don’t you go to a real quality A/V store and actually do real research I can go find you articles on the internet that defend just about any point on any issue lol lets get serious.

Originally Posted by BruceWayne

Not attacking, I just feel bad for you if you don't notice the difference. Something is missing there if that's the case.

lol he didn’t notice a difference, based on what He said he just reads what other people write and then bases his opinion of that, lol who does that

[Beta Man]

Originally Posted by BruceWayne

Not attacking, I just feel bad for you if you don't notice the difference. Something is missing there if that's the case.

uh??? he's said it 10 times in 10 different ways...

Not that there isn't a difference, but that it is not huge

[Ferris]

Originally Posted by WickyWoo

If you were a first-gen DVD owner, then you'll realize the discs are priced exactly the same (about $5 more to account for inflation) as they were in 1997

+1 I remember during the advent of DVD, Warner was the first to offer a DVD for $14.99. Now, catalog DVDs can be found for $5. It'll take a little time for the prices to come down. Blu-ray is just a teenager right now, it'll settle down.

[wallendo]

Originally Posted by smitty4ut

No my setup doesn't suck. Why does everyone have to attack someone or there system. You think it will hurt my feelings or something. I did a lot of research and most of the reviews I have read are still saying that you might want to hold off buying a bluray, because of how cheap upscaling dvd players are and how little difference there is. Not that there isn't a difference, but that it is not huge. I will try and find some of the links I read.

If you feel this way then you can save a lot of money by not buying a blu-ray player and only buying DVD's. I'm sure your HD DVD player already upscales.

[supersix4]

you can't go by what other people say, even by what you see at a best buy or wal-mart lol, I was at best buy last night buying the rookie (for 24.99) and saw a 60'' KURO running a Sony dvd player with a DVD demo playing based on that then why would you even buy an HDTV like some people are probly doing, look into things yourself rather than take what others give you.

[BruceWayne]

Originally Posted by supersix14

lol he didn’t notice a difference, based on what He said he just reads what other people write and then bases his opinion of that, lol who does that

Well it is basically his opinion at that point right? You read it and it is yours.