RIP Viva Metal Box

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by jw

yup yup....Happy Happy Happy!!

So long as they don't pass that insane "illegal to sell imported goods" law that's being bounced around the court rooms right now, right?

[crosses fingers and starts praying on jw's behalf]

[rdodolak]

The only thing Viva MetalPaks and Steelbooks have in common are that they're both made out of plastic and metal. That's like saying no one can manufacture a plastic case because the first company that patented a plastic case owns a monopoly on all plastic case designs. Something smells fishy here.

[LordCrumb]

Total bull crap imo.

[neoz]

Originally Posted by LordCrumb

Total bull crap imo.

I agree, wah wah....we are the SB company and Disney is selling something else and getting money we should be getting.

As someone said, Viva had the nice touch of embossing on their Metal Boxes and I didn't mind the metal instead of the sticker on the spine.

So I guess Finding Nemo will be the last release in the US.

[jw]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

So long as they don't pass that insane "illegal to sell imported goods" law that's being bounced around the court rooms right now, right?

[crosses fingers and starts praying on jw's behalf]

haha wont just affect me, the entire trading forum depending on how its ruled.

[richieb1971]

I guess the question is should Steelbooks monopolize the industry?

Its not good having only one company imo.

[lgans316]

Scanovo is becoming like Apple.

[blurayisnice]

WHY?!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Well... I've bought 8 or 10 of these Viva things from a member.
I hope to receive them soon .

[Destinys Memory]

Ohhh, the VIVA cases were so much nicer than the steelbooks. The steelbooks they've had lately just seem so cheap. The Amazing Spider-Man SB was just meh, and the Snow White and the Huntsman SB was awful. Boo!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Petra_Kalbrain

How is that exactly? Marvel Phase one was never to include any type of metal cases (VIVA or steelbook). This will have no impact on the Phase One set. The discs were being included via those artistic designed cardboard (CD sized) cases, weren't they?

I never said the Phase One set was going to have a steelbook. I was using it as an example of how Disney settled the suit against them over the Phase One suitcase, and that perhaps Disney can flex their muscles a little and either:

a) work out a deal so they can contine to sell these cases(thusly keeping their deal with Best Buy for exclsusives.

or

b) strike a deal with Steelbook to achieve the same end.

There's way too much money being left on the table, and I think(hope) Disney knows this.

[mrhoyt]

US Courts and Patentrules are a joke so this is not a surprise.

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by mrhoyt

US Courts and Patentrules are a joke so this is not a surprise.

Of course they are. Why not sue in the US, you've got nothing to lose!
This is where the US needs to take a page from the UK's judicial book, and allow for automatic countersuits if the original lawsuit is overturned.
It would make a lot of people think twice about just suing anyone/everyone for anything!

[blurayisnice]

Originally Posted by rickah88

Of course they are. Why not sue in the US, you've got nothing to lose!
This is where the US needs to take a page from the UK's judicial book, and allow for automatic countersuits if the original lawsuit is overturned.
It would make a lot of people think twice about just suing anyone/everyone for anything!

I once read that a US court decided to compensate a woman with 50 million US dollar because there was a fly or something in her McDonalds milkshake, LOL .

[Jim1238]

absolutely ridiculous!!! the steelbook company is just worried because their product is inferior to viva! the court messed up on this ruling... there isn't a copyright infringement; this is just capitalism at its best!

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by blurayisnice

I once read that a US court decided to compensate a woman with 50 million US dollar because there was a fly or something in her McDonalds milkshake, LOL .

I wouldn't doubt it! I know one of the more famous court settlements involving McDonalds was when someone burned themselves on hot coffee. Not only did they get a multi-million dollar settlement, but McD's had to label all the hot items with warnings. Yep, come to America: Land of the easy lawsuit!

[Black Sunshine]

not surprised at all.

[basketb]

Originally Posted by Jim1238

absolutely ridiculous!!! the steelbook company is just worried because their product is inferior to viva! the court messed up on this ruling... there isn't a copyright infringement; this is just capitalism at its best!

Of course there is no copyright infringement. If you took the time to follow the link in the OP to the court documents you'd see that copyright infringement was never part of this lawsuit. Viva basically breached "a settlement agreement between G&M and Viva reached in a previous action" to not manufacture and sell metal cases for DVD and BD media that infringe on a couple of patents that G&M holds.

[Saturius]

Originally Posted by rickah88

I wouldn't doubt it! I know one of the more famous court settlements involving McDonalds was when someone burned themselves on hot coffee. Not only did they get a multi-million dollar settlement, but McD's had to label all the hot items with warnings. Yep, come to America: Land of the easy lawsuit!

There are a lot of silly lawsuits in America, but this certainly wasn't one of them, and the victim certainly didn't just try to take McDonalds for everything they had. She actually suffered 3rd(!) degree burns because of the coffee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants

I hope other people read that link and stop painting this imo legitimate lawsuit as something negative.

[Petra_Kalbrain]

Originally Posted by Saturius

There are a lot of silly lawsuits in America, but this certainly wasn't one of them, and the victim certainly didn't just try to take McDonalds for everything they had. She actually suffered 3rd(!) degree burns because of the coffee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants

I hope other people read that link and stop painting this imo legitimate lawsuit as something negative.

No! It was a stupid lawsuit! I don't care if a company labels their products as hot or not. IF YOU ORDER COFFEE, YOU ARE ASKING SOMEONE TO GIVE YOU WATER THAT HAS BEEN BOILED AND FLAVOURED! What's more is that when you order something like that, you are asking for it to be AS FRESHLY BREWED (a.k.a. BOILED) AS POSSIBLE!!! If I were the judge of that case, I would have told the person that they had entered into a contract by ordering said product whereby the consumer has an understanding of the nature of the product being served and therefore have accepted responsibility for the safe handling of said product once it left the employee's hand. Common sense should have prevailed.

It has come to the point in the U.S. where the judicial system has completely reversed the universal natural law of survival. It is no longer "survival of the fittest." Instead, the U.S. judicial system has turned it into "survival and easy living for anyone who manages to survive their own stupidity."

[rickah88]

Originally Posted by Saturius

There are a lot of silly lawsuits in America, but this certainly wasn't one of them, and the victim certainly didn't just try to take McDonalds for everything they had. She actually suffered 3rd(!) degree burns because of the coffee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liebeck...7s_Restaurants

I hope other people read that link and stop painting this imo legitimate lawsuit as something negative.

The point being that, in America, anyone at any time can sue with nothing to lose and everything to gain. I'm not bashing the burn victim, but $2.7 MILLION in punitive damages....come on! That when that lawsuit went from justified to silly.
Now if people actually had something to lose, like if someone wants to sue for $1 million dollars, IF they lost they automatically owe 50-100% of that amount to the(then) defendant. Yeah, I think a lot of these silly cases would go away.