Netflix's "House Of Cards" (Season 6)

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by bsweetness

It's eligible. This article has an interview with the senior vice president of the TV Academy, where they discuss the fact that it is eligible:



The rules were changed back in 2006 to allow internet programming to be eligible. The shows just have to meet certain criteria in episode length and season duration (similar to broadcast and cable shows) in order to be eligible as a show rather than a short or mini-series.

I hope that the fact that the series is on Netflix as original programming doesn't negatively impact it's ability to snag some nominations. I thought the first season was fantastic, and Kevin Spacey was nothing short of phenomenal.

That certainly is clear enough. Thanks. Blu-ray release please.

[COLD_COBRA_]

House of Cards Season 1 Recieves a 9.0/10 from IGN

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...eason-1-review

[LynxFX]

That's a pretty solid review. I just finished chapter 4 and am enjoying the show quite a bit.

Having caught up via Netflix on a lot of series that I never watched, I really dig being able to just watch as many or as little episodes as I want. I do think this will be the future of television serials. I also love that they don't need to throw in arbitrary cliff hangers just to keep an audience coming back.

Next up is Arrested Development.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by King Troll

I find this show to be quite boring.

I didn't, just finished all of season one. Loved it.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by LynxFX

That's a pretty solid review. I just finished chapter 4 and am enjoying the show quite a bit.

Having caught up via Netflix on a lot of series that I never watched, I really dig being able to just watch as many or as little episodes as I want. I do think this will be the future of television serials. I also love that they don't need to throw in arbitrary cliff hangers just to keep an audience coming back.

Next up is Arrested Development.

I just hate that I feel the need to 'have' to watch them ASAP so they don't get ruined by spoilers.

The one thing I hated about the final episode was to find out that Kevin Spacey's character is a former KGB deep cover operative. WTF?

[djgeneral]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

I just hate that I feel the need to 'have' to watch them ASAP so they don't get ruined by spoilers.

The one thing I hated about the final episode was to find out that Kevin Spacey's character is a former KGB deep cover operative. WTF?

Is that a joke?

[bsweetness]

Originally Posted by djgeneral

Is that a joke?

It is. I'm guessing he thought it would be funny to supposedly put a major spoiler (which isn't even remotely true) right after talking about feeling like he needed to watch the entire season quickly to avoid spoilers.

It probably seemed funnier in his head.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by bsweetness

It is. I'm guessing he thought it would be funny to supposedly put a major spoiler (which isn't even remotely true) right after talking about feeling like he needed to watch the entire season quickly to avoid spoilers.

It probably seemed funnier in his head.

Thank goodness. He didnt use a so I thought he was serious and I was gunna go BALLISTIC.

[DoubleDownAgain]

Originally Posted by bsweetness

It is. I'm guessing he thought it would be funny to supposedly put a major spoiler (which isn't even remotely true) right after talking about feeling like he needed to watch the entire season quickly to avoid spoilers.

It probably seemed funnier in his head.

It was!

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

Thank goodness. He didnt use a so I thought he was serious and I was gunna go BALLISTIC.

Sorry, thought I picked something so outlandish that is was obviously made up. Plus I just mentioned how I watched it so I wouldn't have to worry about some jackass on the internet spoiling it for me, I wouldn't turn around and do it myself.

It was a good show, that had some great moments. Looking forward to Season two, although I'm sure that is going to be a long wait.

[COLD_COBRA_]

Brilliant first season. I'm happy to say it joins television's elite. The 5 Best shows on tv, imo of course.

Breaking Bad
Mad Men
Homeland
Game of Thrones
House of Cards

[SquidPuppet]

I called and spoke to a customer service rep at Netflix about House of Cards possibly making its way to Blu-ray/DVD.

He said that the Company has announced that they have made a firm decision that they will NOT sell Blu-rays or DVDs.

He said that the Company has not yet decided if they will produce discs for rental purposes.

He said he is getting about five inqueries on the subject per day, and so are his coworkers.

Grain of salt......

[MifuneFan]

On one hand, I can understand their decision to not release it on BD as it's a Netflix exclusive, so from their POV, if you want to watch it, you should sign up. On the other hand, not everyone out there can play streaming content all that well, and plus it simply won't look as good as a BD either, even in "Super HD".

A BD/DVD release can certainly be another stream of revenue for Netflix if they can work out a proper distribution deal with someone. I'd love to see some extras like a Fincher commentary on the two eps he directed, and some behind the scenes stuff.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by DoubleDownAgain

It was!

Sorry, thought I picked something so outlandish that is was obviously made up. Plus I just mentioned how I watched it so I wouldn't have to worry about some jackass on the internet spoiling it for me, I wouldn't turn around and do it myself.

Well, I laughed at it...

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I called and spoke to a customer service rep at Netflix about House of Cards possibly making its way to Blu-ray/DVD.

He said that the Company has announced that they have made a firm decision that they will NOT sell Blu-rays or DVDs.

He said that the Company has not yet decided if they will produce discs for rental purposes.

He said he is getting about five inqueries on the subject per day, and so are his coworkers.

Graint of salt......

A decision that makes sense for them business-wise - I can definitely see the logic (they've paid to have this as an exclusive, why take that selling point away?) - but a shame. Especially for Arrested Development assuming the same logic applies there - a huge percentage of the fans fell in love with the show via DVD. It's part of the experience.

I can see this changing though through two means - 1. the countries that don't have Netflix but have acquired the rights to show this as a regular TV show will probably release it themselves; 2. The shareholders at Netflix see viewing figures dipping for it and decide to get the extra revenue that boxsets can get. It's a way to squeeze some extra revenue out of what has been a massive gamble for them. However, with regards to the second part, it's taking away why they made that gamble in the first place so who knows?

EDIT: Basically, what MifuneFan said

[MifuneFan]

Arrested Development would probably cause an even great uproar since the first 3 seasons are already on DVD (

[Show spoiler]and hopefully one day on BD

), and people will want to complete their collection.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

Arrested Development would probably cause an even great uproar since the first 3 seasons are already on DVD (

[Show spoiler]and hopefully one day on BD

), and people will want to complete their collection.

Completely agree and I definitely want them to change their minds for that. However, given the logic that keeping it off DVD would leave Netflix as the only place to watch it, it makes more sense for them as a business to keep it off DVD than it does House of Cards - there can't be many people who subscribed just to see House of Cards as there wasn't really a pre-exisitng audience for it (I can't say none at all because I subscribed in time to watch it). However Arrested development does have a built-in audience, and a passionate one - so if Netflix is and remains the only place to see new episodes then that's what the fans will have to do*.

Of course, the demand for season 4 might also make them see dollar signs with regards to DVD sales (I imagine the DVD sales are what attracted them to make it in the first place) but, going by Netflix's comments, I have a feeling that the first option might be the business plan they're going for. I hope I'm wrong though, or that they find a balance that somehow works both ways.

* Except finding a less legitimate way to watch it of course.

[kristoffer]

Delete.

[SquidPuppet]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

On one hand, I can understand their decision to not release it on BD as it's a Netflix exclusive, so from their POV, if you want to watch it, you should sign up. On the other hand, not everyone out there can play streaming content all that well, and plus it simply won't look as good as a BD either, even in "Super HD".

A BD/DVD release can certainly be another stream of revenue for Netflix if they can work out a proper distribution deal with someone. I'd love to see some extras like a Fincher commentary on the two eps he directed, and some behind the scenes stuff.

Originally Posted by Buddy Ackerman

Well, I laughed at it...



A decision that makes sense for them business-wise - I can definitely see the logic (they've paid to have this as an exclusive, why take that selling point away?) - but a shame. Especially for Arrested Development assuming the same logic applies there - a huge percentage of the fans fell in love with the show via DVD. It's part of the experience.

I can see this changing though through two means - 1. the countries that don't have Netflix but have acquired the rights to show this as a regular TV show will probably release it themselves; 2. The shareholders at Netflix see viewing figures dipping for it and decide to get the extra revenue that boxsets can get. It's a way to squeeze some extra revenue out of what has been a massive gamble for them. However, with regards to the second part, it's taking away why they made that gamble in the first place so who knows?

EDIT: Basically, what MifuneFan said

I understand their strategy. Gain more streaming subscribers.

I just wonder if it is working. Are people actually taking out a subscription in order to be able to watch this show. Have they gained enough to justify the millions spent on the show?

I think that also selling the show on Blu-ray and DVD would be very wise for them. It would generate tons of revenue and buzz. And I dont think it would hurt their streaming subscription numbers either. Just follow the industry standard pattern and release the discs 12 months after the show "airs". People who want to "See it now" will either keep their subscriptions or sign up for a subscription.

It's really no different than a cable network like HBO selling their shows on disc. I dont believe that Game of Thrones being available on Blu-ray has caused HBO viewers to cancel their subscription and wait for the home video release. And I know HBO sells TONS of copies of their shows.

It just seems like a hell of a lot of revenue to forfeit on the hope/gamble/bet that streaming subscriptions increase enough to pay for the production.

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by SquidPuppet

I think that also selling the show on Blu-ray and DVD would be very wise for them. It would generate tons of revenue and buzz. And I dont think it would hurt their streaming subscription numbers either. Just follow the industry standard pattern and release the discs 12 months after the show "airs". People who want to "See it now" will either keep their subscriptions or sign up for a subscription.

I agree - releasing a boxset before the second season "airs" can only add to the promotion of it, same as other TV shows.

It's really no different than a cable network like HBO selling their shows on disc. I dont believe that Game of Thrones being available on Blu-ray has caused HBO viewers to cancel their subscription and wait for the home video release. And I know HBO sells TONS of copies of their shows.

I suppose the difference is that DVDs for other shows such as Game of Thrones are sold so that people can watch it when they like at home, not waiting until it's aired. For Netflix, this is covered so why the need to sell DVDs? For customers there's a difference - owning it as a tangible item, being able to move around with it or lend it out, etc - but not really for Netflix. People can watch House of Cards whenever they like thanks to their system - same as if they owned the DVDs. Ad if that's the only way they can watch it, all the better.

I can see the debate between the extra revenue vs. the selling point of exclusivity being a tough on for them though. There's huge pros and cons to both. Though I hope that this -

It just seems like a hell of a lot of revenue to forfeit on the hope/gamble/bet that streaming subscriptions increase enough to pay for the production.

- wins the debate. Because $100m for two seasons is a lot of money to recoup through subscribers (and hard to gauge how much is due to the show, surely?). Still, they must have their own means for determining if this show is a success for them or not.

[COLD_COBRA_]

When do they put up season 2! Tomorrow? Later today? Must.have. moar!

[Buddy Ackerman]

Originally Posted by COLD_COBRA_

When they do put up season 2! Tomorrow? Later today? Must.have. moar!

Sometime in 2014. Sorry.