The Lord of the Rings: The Motion Picture Trilogy (Extended Edition) (2001-2003)

[retablo]

Originally Posted by frogmort

Well then why don't the other two films look dark green too then?

Maybe because FOTR doesn't look dark green either? That would be my guess.

Originally Posted by Stinky-Dinkins

That is how it looked originally, and it's clear that's how they intended them to look. All of those scenes in the color grading extras, every single one, no longer appears the way it once did, they have all been drastically altered by the green saturation.

That might have been how it was intended to look at the time, with no DI and limited ability to really get the colors they wanted. Then they realized they could go back and really do it how they wanted, and obviously they did.

As I've posted, this is how it looks on my calibrated set, and I see no green... so I'm happy and they did their job properly IMO.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by retablo

As I've posted, this is how it looks on my calibrated set, and I see no green... so I'm happy and they did their job properly IMO.

With what ... the settings you've devised for this particular BD? And if you display the other two films with the same settings, how do they look?

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by retablo

That might have been how it was intended to look at the time, with no DI and limited ability to really get the colors they wanted. Then they realized they could go back and really do it how they wanted, and obviously they did.

Way to completely disregard what I posted.

As I said, watch the video. There are specific portions graded to exacting parameters for reasons provided directly by Jackson and Lesnie. Every one of these portions is presented in a drastically different manner in this new release due to the blanket green tint. There is no reason whatsoever that they could not have applied a consistent green bias, which is exactly what was done to these portions in this new release, had they wanted to back then. That video could not have made their intent, and the resulting color grading, of the original presentation any more crystal clear.

And I could also tweak my set to dial out the green for Fellowship too and take a picture of it, but I think it's absurd to tweak settings for each individual movie. You seem to be implying with that picture that the green bias doesn't exist, and that's absurd. It most definitely does, and is easily provable.

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by retablo

Maybe because FOTR doesn't look dark green either? That would be my guess.



That might have been how it was intended to look at the time, with no DI and limited ability to really get the colors they wanted. Then they realized they could go back and really do it how they wanted, and obviously they did.

As I've posted, this is how it looks on my calibrated set, and I see no green... so I'm happy and they did their job properly IMO.

And hey, I know it's only a screenshot, but your settings look torched. Doubt it's been properly calibrated.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

If anything, inconsistencies like this are much easier to detect on a properly calibrated set. If it's properly calibrated it should be presenting the data faithfully (as the set is able) as it appears on the disc itself. It's not as if there's some magical transformation that occurs when the disc is put in the player where the excessive green bias is stripped out. Your eyes will auto adjust naturally over time (which is nice), but some are more sensitive to it than others so they'll never be able to "un see" what is actually there. If you're claiming your set displays no green bias, even when paused and compared to an actual white source (or a picture is taken of it in which the camera doesn't auto balance) then you've either tweaked your set for this one specific film or your set is most definitely not properly calibrated.

[42041]

Originally Posted by retablo

That might have been how it was intended to look at the time, with no DI and limited ability to really get the colors they wanted. Then they realized they could go back and really do it how they wanted, and obviously they did.

Fellowship used a hybrid process. Something like a quarter of the film was regular analog super35, the rest went through a sort of half-assed DI, was recorded to film and then put together into the final cut negative. So it's somewhat odd in that it was digitally graded, then photochemically color timed on top of that.

[shadylpete]

Originally Posted by mzupeman

And hey, I know it's only a screenshot, but your settings look torched. Doubt it's been properly calibrated.

Yeah, I'm gonna have to agree with him. That looks more like it's on Vivid or Dynamic, something you'd see on a Best Buy showroom wall, than something that's been calibrated. Who did the calibration?

[42041]

Um, it's a picture of a TV...

[mzupeman]

Originally Posted by 42041

Um, it's a picture of a TV...

You catch on quick!

[HeavyHitter]

If you go back to page 664, I took images right off my 65" Panasonic ST30 which has been pro cal'd. I used a cheap camera (my Samsung Infuse) and this was taken in a dark room. But, at 33 fl with delta errors under 2, you can see the screenshots look nothing like that on my display unless your monitor is really way off. lol Not a perfect image, but gives a good color representation. Contrast looks bloated but that is from the camera in a dark room.

[MifuneFan]

Actually, retablo himself said that his iPhone camera shots look almost exactly the same as they do to his eyes, so I think it's perfectly fair to assess his Display settings based on that pic. Or alternatively, maybe his eyesight..

Originally Posted by retablo

It's interesting to me... I KNOW iphone shots of TVs aren't fully representative of a screenshot (before that starts getting thrown around) but this shot I just took for comparison does look almost exactly like it looks to my eye. Interestingly, my TV is NOT professionally calibrated and this is how the snow scene looks on my Panasonic plasma...



compared to the "actual" screenshot from the disc.



Dunno, but on my TV, the whites looks pretty white to me, and if anything it's slightly too blue... maybe you all shouldn't be professionally calibrating your monitors, Lol.

[jlo8720]

just got the extended FotR, TT, RotK standalone discs at target for 10 each. Have yet to open, but I returned my unopened 15 disc set (paid only $40) for it.

[JohnStevens83]

Do all versions of the extended blu rays, single discs, 2011/2012 sets, have the green tint problem?

[gettodamoofies]

Originally Posted by JohnStevens83

Do all versions of the extended blu rays, single discs, 2011/2012 sets, have the green tint problem?

They all feature the exact same transfer for FOTR.

[Stinky-Dinkins]

Originally Posted by JohnStevens83

Do all versions of the extended blu rays, single discs, 2011/2012 sets, have the green tint problem?

Two Towers and Return of the King don't have this problem, only Fellowship (not sure if you were asking that as well.)

[AVfile]

Originally Posted by jlo8720

just got the extended FotR, TT, RotK standalone discs at target for 10 each. Have yet to open, but I returned my unopened 15 disc set (paid only $40) for it.

Why?

[AVfile]

Originally Posted by HeavyHitter

If you go back to page 664, I took images right off my 65" Panasonic ST30 which has been pro cal'd. I used a cheap camera (my Samsung Infuse) and this was taken in a dark room. But, at 33 fl with delta errors under 2, you can see the screenshots look nothing like that on my display unless your monitor is really way off. lol Not a perfect image, but gives a good color representation. Contrast looks bloated but that is from the camera in a dark room.

Samsung phone cameras are known to pump up the color and contrast.

[poke smot]

Originally Posted by AVfile

Why?

I know right. I have the target movie only but if they were both infront of me, I would keep the box set. Maybe he doesn't know the cases are black

[biotechsmc]

Tried it on all 3 of my players, sony, panasonic ,and oppo, and will not load - says invalid disc. Bought over a year ago and tried to watch it tonight for first time - guess I'm screwed!

[warnzie]

Are the movies split in 2 discs?