Twilight Time Discussion Thread - Page 220 - Blu-ray Forum

ROclockCK · 03-06-2013, 05:35 AM

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Major Dundee has been a long time coming, but if this strikingly beautiful cover is any indication of the love that has gone into this release, then we're in for a 1st class collector package and presentation.

ROclockCK · 03-06-2013, 05:42 AM

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Boy on a Dolphin also was nominated for the Oscar for Best Score.

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Didn't know that bluknight1. Which probably does up its chances for a TT release...probably just depends on the state of its master. They have admitted that some of the Fox films they intially wanted to do (the original 'list of 100') currently exist only in lower def, letterboxed form...BOAD might be one of them.

Anyway, thanks for sharing!

Blu Titan · 03-06-2013, 06:36 AM

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Looks great

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BarnDoor · 03-06-2013, 08:41 AM

Wonderful cover.

grrrarg · 03-06-2013, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by popeflick

I believe the smart money is on the Egyptian and Big Heat in that order...

Anyone who hasn't picked up The Big Heat yet is missing out, it's a great bit of cinema!

SolidBlu · 03-06-2013, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by HyperRealist

great cover!

ROclockCK · 03-06-2013, 02:27 PM

....here's the original poster that inspired it:

To TT's credit, not just a 1:1 replication...subtley different...but better.

bluknight1 · 03-06-2013, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ROclockCK

Didn't know that bluknight1. Which probably does up its chances for a TT release...probably just depends on the state of its master. They have admitted that some of the Fox films they intially wanted to do (the original 'list of 100') currently exist only in lower def, letterboxed form...BOAD might be one of them.

Anyway, thanks for sharing!

When BOAD ran on TCM last year, I DVR' it. The master appeared to have some dirt issues but perhaps it was just an unrestored HD master. Audio-wise, BOAD was 4-track stereo on original release but is only in fake stereo from a crackly optical mono track on the Spanish DVD. The TCM master seemed to be from a magnetic source. However, I did not realize that the DVR hadn't been connected properly and was only recording mono

I cannot tell with any certainty if the original tracks have survived. I'd like to see some other members shed some light on this. In any case, based on the TCM master, BOAD might take a little work to be ready for BD in order to have a release that doesn't wind up looking like Demetrius and the Gladiators.

rkolinski · 03-06-2013, 07:55 PM

My Columbia Pictures wish list - hopefully some of these might be released by Twilight Time since they fit with some of their previous releases.

"From Here to Eternity," two Tyrone Power films - "The Eddy Duchin Story" (was nominated for four academy awards) and "Abandon Ship!," "Porgy and Bess," "H.M.S. Defiant (aka "Damn the Defiant")," "Barabbas," "The War Lover," "The Cardinal" (nominated for six academy awards), "Fail-Safe," "King Rat," "The Heroes of Telemark," "Georgy Girl," "A Man for All Seasons," "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice," "Marooned," "Butterflies Are Free," "Young Winston," "The Wind and the Lion," "The Man Who Would Be King," "The China Syndrome," "All That Jazz," "Casualties of War" and the four Matt Helm films ("The Silencers," "Murderers' Row," "The Ambushers" and "The Wrecking Crew."

captveg · 03-06-2013, 08:18 PM

From Here to Eternity would *probably* be more of a Criterion release (or Sony itself) than Twilight Time, especially in it's 60th Anniversary year.

Brad1963 · 03-06-2013, 08:45 PM

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Originally Posted by rkolinski

My Columbia Pictures wish list - hopefully some of these might be released by Twilight Time since they fit with some of their previous releases.

"From Here to Eternity," two Tyrone Power films - "The Eddy Duchin Story" (was nominated for four academy awards) and "Abandon Ship!," "Porgy and Bess," "H.M.S. Defiant (aka "Damn the Defiant")," "Barabbas," "The War Lover," "The Cardinal" (nominated for six academy awards), "Fail-Safe," "King Rat," "The Heroes of Telemark," "Georgy Girl," "A Man for All Seasons," "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice," "Marooned," "Butterflies Are Free," "Young Winston," "The Wind and the Lion," "The Man Who Would Be King," "The China Syndrome," "All That Jazz," "Casualties of War" and the four Matt Helm films ("The Silencers," "Murderers' Row," "The Ambushers" and "The Wrecking Crew."

Warner owns The Wind & the Lion and The Man Who Would be King (which has been released already).

Akijama · 03-06-2013, 08:49 PM

Also, All That Jazz is owned by Fox, and Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice is with Image.

cavesailor · 03-06-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rkolinski

My Columbia Pictures wish list - hopefully some of these might be released by Twilight Time since they fit with some of their previous releases.

"From Here to Eternity," two Tyrone Power films - "The Eddy Duchin Story" (was nominated for four academy awards) and "Abandon Ship!," "Porgy and Bess," "H.M.S. Defiant (aka "Damn the Defiant")," "Barabbas," "The War Lover," "The Cardinal" (nominated for six academy awards), "Fail-Safe," "King Rat," "The Heroes of Telemark," "Georgy Girl," "A Man for All Seasons," "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice," "Marooned," "Butterflies Are Free," "Young Winston," "The Wind and the Lion," "The Man Who Would Be King," "The China Syndrome," "All That Jazz," "Casualties of War" and the four Matt Helm films ("The Silencers," "Murderers' Row," "The Ambushers" and "The Wrecking Crew."

I'm with you on A Man for All Seasons.

Blu-Velvet · 03-06-2013, 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cavesailor

I'm with you on A Man for All Seasons.

Yes, that for sure. I still really want to see FIRST MEN IN THE MOON and MACKENNA'S GOLD get good Blu-ray releases, with the latter especially from Twilight Time, to hear Quincy Jones' great score isolated.

rkolinski · 03-06-2013, 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by captveg

From Here to Eternity would *probably* be more of a Criterion release (or Sony itself) than Twilight Time, especially in it's 60th Anniversary year.

Agree; this was just my wish list!

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Originally Posted by Brad1963

Warner owns The Wind & the Lion and The Man Who Would be King (which has been released already).

Oops; already own "The Man Who Would be King;" "The Wind & The Lion" was listed in Wikipedia under Columbia Pictures - perhaps it is mistaken.

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Originally Posted by Akijama

Also, All That Jazz is owned by Fox, and Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice is with Image.

Again, these two were listed by Wikipedia as being under Columbia Pictures.

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I'm with you on A Man for All Seasons.

One of my favorites!

captveg · 03-06-2013, 10:03 PM

The Wind & The Lion - US rights were with MGM, so went to Warner in 1986. Non-US rights are with Columbia/Sony.

All That Jazz - This was a co-production between Fox & Columbia, with Fox retaining distribution rights.

Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice - You are correct that this is owned by Sony in the US but it has been already licensed to Image.

Aclea · 03-06-2013, 10:08 PM

The Wind and the Lion was a co-production between MGM (who had US rights) and Columbia (who had international), the sort of thing which was very popular in the mid-70s and early 80s as audiences shrank and budgets grew (The Towering Inferno, Network, Popeye, Dragonslayer among them). Warners took over US rights as part of their buyout of the MGM library. The Cardinal was an independent production that's currently controlled by Warner Bros. while The Man Who Would be King is owned by Warners in the US (as part of their purchase of the Allied Artists library) and Columbia overseas. All That Jazz is distributed by Fox worldwide now after Columbia pulled the plug when Fosse went overbudget and Fox bailed the picture out.

Porgy and Bess we ain't seeing anytime soon - it's an independent Sam Goldwyn production, but the Gershwin estate loathe the film so much they won't allow it to be shown on TV or released on home video, and since they control the songs there's not much that can be done to get around it until a new generation comes along with a different opinion (which was the case with Annie Get Your Gun, which was loathed by Irving Berlin's estate and pulled in 1973). Since 1974 they'll only allow very limited archive screenings, and then after a lot of negotiation.

bluknight1 · 03-06-2013, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by cavesailor

I'm with you on A Man for All Seasons.

That's a Best Picture Winner. I'd assume that Sony would evwntually release that themselves as there is a market for said films.

REPLAY · 03-06-2013, 10:23 PM

Anybody know who controls the rights to Cotton Club?
Would love to see that on blu ray.
Great 20's & 30's music in it.

captveg · 03-06-2013, 10:48 PM

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Originally Posted by bluknight1

That's a Best Picture Winner. I'd assume that Sony would evwntually release that themselves as there is a market for said films.

They gave On the Waterfront to Criterion, and that film won 8 Oscars.

A Man for All Seasons won 6 Oscars, so while I doubt it would be given to Twilight Time, I can see it being given to Criterion.

03-06-2013, 02:27 PM	#4387
ROclockCK Power Member Member since:Oct 2011	By comparison... ....here's the original poster that inspired it: To TT's credit, not just a 1:1 replication...subtley different...but better.

03-06-2013, 10:08 PM	#4397
Aclea Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jun 2012 Blu-ray reviews: 3	The Wind and the Lion was a co-production between MGM (who had US rights) and Columbia (who had international), the sort of thing which was very popular in the mid-70s and early 80s as audiences shrank and budgets grew (The Towering Inferno, Network, Popeye, Dragonslayer among them). Warners took over US rights as part of their buyout of the MGM library. The Cardinal was an independent production that's currently controlled by Warner Bros. while The Man Who Would be King is owned by Warners in the US (as part of their purchase of the Allied Artists library) and Columbia overseas. All That Jazz is distributed by Fox worldwide now after Columbia pulled the plug when Fosse went overbudget and Fox bailed the picture out. Porgy and Bess we ain't seeing anytime soon - it's an independent Sam Goldwyn production, but the Gershwin estate loathe the film so much they won't allow it to be shown on TV or released on home video, and since they control the songs there's not much that can be done to get around it until a new generation comes along with a different opinion (which was the case with Annie Get Your Gun, which was loathed by Irving Berlin's estate and pulled in 1973). Since 1974 they'll only allow very limited archive screenings, and then after a lot of negotiation. Last edited by Aclea; 03-06-2013 at 10:10 PM. Reason: spelling

03-06-2013, 10:23 PM	#4399
REPLAY Senior Member Member since:Feb 2008 Blu-ray collection:6 Blu-ray reviews:1	Cotton Club blu-ray Anybody know who controls the rights to Cotton Club? Would love to see that on blu ray. Great 20's & 30's music in it.

03-06-2013, 08:41 AM	#4384
BarnDoor Blu-ray Baron Top contributor Member since:Jan 2010 4K collection:338 Blu-ray collection:6006 Trading Score:3	Wonderful cover.

03-06-2013, 07:55 PM	#4389
rkolinski Blu-ray Baron Top ranked HT gallery Top contributor Member since:May 2008 Home Theater Gallery:184 4K collection:76 Blu-ray collection:3078 Blu-ray reviews: 17	My Columbia Pictures wish list - hopefully some of these might be released by Twilight Time since they fit with some of their previous releases. "From Here to Eternity," two Tyrone Power films - "The Eddy Duchin Story" (was nominated for four academy awards) and "Abandon Ship!," "Porgy and Bess," "H.M.S. Defiant (aka "Damn the Defiant")," "Barabbas," "The War Lover," "The Cardinal" (nominated for six academy awards), "Fail-Safe," "King Rat," "The Heroes of Telemark," "Georgy Girl," "A Man for All Seasons," "Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice," "Marooned," "Butterflies Are Free," "Young Winston," "The Wind and the Lion," "The Man Who Would Be King," "The China Syndrome," "All That Jazz," "Casualties of War" and the four Matt Helm films ("The Silencers," "Murderers' Row," "The Ambushers" and "The Wrecking Crew."

03-06-2013, 08:18 PM	#4390
captveg Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:472 Blu-ray collection:1709 DVD collection:317 Trading Score:1	From Here to Eternity would probably be more of a Criterion release (or Sony itself) than Twilight Time, especially in it's 60th Anniversary year.

03-06-2013, 08:49 PM	#4392
Akijama Banned Top contributor Member since:Oct 2011	Also, All That Jazz is owned by Fox, and Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice is with Image.

03-06-2013, 10:03 PM	#4396
captveg Blu-ray Champion Top contributor Member since:Feb 2008 4K collection:472 Blu-ray collection:1709 DVD collection:317 Trading Score:1	The Wind & The Lion - US rights were with MGM, so went to Warner in 1986. Non-US rights are with Columbia/Sony. All That Jazz - This was a co-production between Fox & Columbia, with Fox retaining distribution rights. Bob & Carol & Ted & Alice - You are correct that this is owned by Sony in the US but it has been already licensed to Image.

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