Because Blu-Ray will "obviously" be replaced rapidly by streaming only...

[Steedeel]

He seemed to want bluray dead. I just don't get it. Talking as if smartphone viewing is a good thing in my opinion

[Steedeel]

I have feared that scenario for a long time and get slated for it. Now many more are predicting it. Films on a smartphone. A dagger through the heart if that is how things turn out. 4 inch screens and 7 inch tablets plus convertibles with 10 inch screens is not the future I dreamt about when I imagined my home cinema years ago. Now with bluray is fine, but if everyone starts watching on these tablets and smartphones we are all ******!

[KRW1]

Films on smartphone are fine for portability; doesn't mean they'll become the primary source of film watching. Diversity of media is the future and it doesn't have to be negative for anyone.

[Steedeel]

So your confident that TV viewership of movies will coexist with tablet and smartphone viewing in the future?

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

So your confident that TV viewership of movies will coexist with tablet and smartphone viewing in the future?

Yeah, I think the TV will change shape radically over the next few years though and probably all for the good. Sony isn't releasing the PS4 with a view to it being used on tablets and if they and Microsoft are confident, then so am I.

[Steedeel]

Change shape?

[KRW1]

Thinner, flatter, bigger is all I mean. I remember when 32" was masssive. 50" is about the standard now and I think 4k will lead to places we can't imagine yet. The first Plasma I saw was in Harrods for 25k which was just over a decade ago. Now people throw them away.

[Steedeel]

I still love plasma. It is odd as it seems to have tainted my enjoyment of movies in my home cinema lately worrying about the trends of viewing movies on smaller screens such as tablets. Hard to describe, I was content that bluray would be around for many more years and would be replaced by something better. Now I can't help but think of watching avatar on a mobile phone. It makes me feel queasy.

[img eL]

"If you go down to Southern Europe, where we have very big and important businesses, it can take you 3 days over a standard internet connection to download a file of the size, and that’s not fun. There are certain gating factors in terms of internet infrastructure that mandate that the disc-based solution is going to be the primary delivery mechanism for the foreseeable future."

http://www.ign.com/articles/2013/02/...c-based-future

[KRW1]

Watching Avatar full stop makes me queasy. Plasma is great, no argument, my plasma is about 6 years old now and looks as good as the day I bought it. I never want to replace it.

I wouldn't worry about the tablet thing, to be honest. They're great things but I don't know anyone who uses one for anything much more than catching up with the odd TV episode and I've done that myself on a smartphone. It's handy, not a substitute.

There seems to be something fanboyish about this whole streaming debate. I think both technologies are fantastic, and we're lucky to be living in an age where there are thousands of movies available at the touch of a button and collect the ones you really like. There's no need for this 'My chosen technology will eventually crush your technology' behaviour and, with some people, mentioning no names, they sound like they're trying to convince themselves more than anything else.

[Steedeel]

Ok dude, good points

[octagon]

Originally Posted by KRW1

Thinner, flatter, bigger is all I mean. I remember when 32" was masssive. 50" is about the standard now and I think 4k will lead to places we can't imagine yet. The first Plasma I saw was in Harrods for 25k which was just over a decade ago. Now people throw them away.

Exactly. The 23 inch monitor I'm staring at right now is bigger than most console tvs when I was a kid.

The 'thinner' part is really important too. Forget the huge, appliance-sized CRT-based rear projection sets - a lot of people were even reluctant to put larger screen size DLP projection sets in their living rooms. That's becoming less and less an issue as screens get flatter and thinner.

A 65 inch display doesn't have to dominate a room anymore and that's only getting better.

[chachaseeds]

I'm pretty surprised that nobody has mentioned that the movie selections of streaming services such as Netflix and Amazon Prime are pretty much pathetic compared to bluray. I've had both Netflix and Amazon, but I can never seem to find the newer "blockbuster" movies which I want to watch (e.g. Skyfall, Argo, etc.) on them. Hell, I still can't get Battle L.A. on Netflix... Although "premium" streaming services such as Vudu and perhaps Apple TV do have a great selection of newer big-budget movies (the ones which I want to watch most), the obvious downfall to them is their relatively high cost to rent compared to a bluray at Redbox.

At least for me, the problem of streaming services isn't so much the quality (1080p Netflix SuperHD, Vudu, Zune, and Apple are very comparable to bluray on my FiOS connection) but rather their balance of selection and pricing.

[Steedeel]

Very comparable to bluray? I think not!

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by chachaseeds

I'm pretty surprised that nobody has mentioned that the movie selections of streaming services

Well Tender Mercies is not available on blu ray in the USA but I streamed it in crystal clear 1080p from iTunes...

[img eL]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Well Tender Mercies is not available on blu ray in the USA but I streamed it in crystal clear 1080p from iTunes...

Its not in 1080p the blu ray is available in other country's & will be in the U.S.

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by img eL

Its not in 1080p the blu ray is available in other country's & will be in the U.S.

Are you claiming iTunes is not 1080p on my Apple TV?

[KRW1]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Are you claiming iTunes is not 1080p on my Apple TV?

It isn't 1080p. It's a scam, you just think its 1080p. This is why bluray looks superior to a supposed 1080p download which is more likely to be 480i upscaled to 1080p, sped up, and then compressed again to make way for the codec. It's well known that Apple do this and most people can't tell the difference because they don't blind test and aren't interested anyway as it all looks the same to them with their eyes. I can confirm it as fact.




See how it is when people just talk nonsense at you? It's unpleasant and rude, isn't it?

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by KRW1

It isn't 1080p. It's a scam, you just think its 1080p. This is why bluray looks superior to a supposed 1080p download which is more likely to be 480i upscaled to 1080p, sped up, and then compressed again to make way for the codec. It's well known that Apple do this and most people can't tell the difference because they don't blind test and aren't interested anyway as it all looks the same to them with their eyes. I can confirm it as fact.




See how it is when people just talk nonsense at you? It's unpleasant and rude, isn't it?

Thanks for the info

[chachaseeds]

Originally Posted by Steedeel

Very comparable to bluray? I think not!

Okay, yea if I scoot up close to my TV and try to find the differences, sure I'll see that bluray looks better and has less artifacts. However, I don't find myself noticing from an average viewing distance when I'm not trying to nitpick bluray from streaming. I can sure hear the difference though, if that makes you happy...