Film prints in theaters

[pagemaster]

Originally Posted by Flatnate

Indeed I did... on 35mm... *facepalm*

Oy, we went to a really nice locally owned theater a few miles out of town with better food and beer, but now I feel really stupid as this was a priority for me. Also, I remember Skyfall being 4K as well! Ugh, we just weren't thinking that night.

Well, at least you saw it in 35mm, how did it look?

4K is nothing special. I saw Samsara in 4K and was not overly impressed

[Flatnate]

Originally Posted by pagemaster

Well, at least you saw it in 35mm, how did it look?

4K is nothing special. I saw Samsara in 4K and was not overly impressed

It looked as good as any film print I had seen to be honest. Judder was very minimal. I found some focus issues at the very outer edges of the screen. It also had a few specs of dust and well pretty much all of the little things you see with a typical film screening when you look for them.

I was really hoping to catch Samsara, or possibly the one night run of Lawrence of Arabia in 4K. Work unfortunately made Samsara really difficult and Lawrence impossible.

[Penton-Man]

Flat, this film was exhibited in 4K 3D over a year ago in Galveston -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180529/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

With their 1 GB data rate streaming capability, the Qube server manufacturer can also do (in 2D) up to 60 fps for 4K projection and up to 240 fps for 2K content….not to mention 2K 3D content up to 120 fps per eye….with supporting dual projectors.

At the current time, at least in the case of that particular manufacturer, the engineering has outpaced the standards organizations. Which actually brings up another interesting *sticky* situation, namely, the DCI...in terms of recommendations and specs… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...00#post6639136

As there are many people in the industry who believe that the original 250 Mb/sec data rate set by the DCI years ago was too low for optimal 4K presentations of source content having a true resolution of 4K or more.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

Flat, this film was exhibited in 4K 3D over a year ago in Galveston -
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2180529/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

With their 1 GB data rate streaming capability, the Qube server manufacturer can also do (in 2D) up to 60 fps for 4K projection and up to 240 fps for 2K content….not to mention 2K 3D content up to 120 fps per eye….with supporting dual projectors.

At the current time, at least in the case of that particular manufacturer, the engineering has outpaced the standards organizations. Which actually brings up another interesting *sticky* situation, namely, the DCI...in terms of recommendations and specs… https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread...00#post6639136

As there are many people in the industry who believe that the original 250 Mb/sec data rate set by the DCI years ago was too low for optimal 4K presentations of source content having a true resolution of 4K or more.

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To clarify, when I said “streaming”, I was not referring to sending the data from outside to inside the theater, like with the Netflix 4K home distribution platform intentions recently announced to the press, but rather, sending the data (DCP) from the Qube server to Qube IMBs in the projectors in the facility itself.

Regarding standards and SMPTE, a final report from SMPTE’s Digital Cinema High Frame Rate (HFR) Study Group to ascertain recommended maximum compression bit rates for future equipment is expected in late 2013.

The interim report is included here - http://journal.smpte.org/content/121/6/26.full.pdf+html

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

...Regarding standards and SMPTE, a final report from SMPTE’s Digital Cinema High Frame Rate (HFR) Study Group to ascertain recommended maximum compression bit rates for future equipment is expected in late 2013...

And 48fps, 50fps and 60fps are all included in the standards amendment proposal coming up for vote at the SMPTE.

On that note, i.e. higher frame rate productions, even though the cinematic community has not yet discovered it, as it hasn’t been publicized by the press, Above My Head was not only shot in 3D as listed -

“Aspect ratio 1.85 : 1 (3-D version)”
here...http://www.imdb.com/title/tt2184101/...ef_=tt_dt_spec

But, also what is not listed in the imdb Tech specs ^ to date is that it was shot at 50fps/eye. This feature motion picture is currently in post production.

[Penton-Man]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

And 48fps, 50fps and 60fps are all included in the standards amendment proposal coming up for vote at the SMPTE....

^ SMPTE has nearly completed the new spec for ‘high’ frame rates, which include -

2D 2K @50fps (250 Mb/sec)
2D 2K @60fps (250 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @48fps (500 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @50fps (500 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @60 fps (500 Mb/sec)

[Canada]

Originally Posted by Penton-Man

^ SMPTE has nearly completed the new spec for ‘high’ frame rates, which include -

2D 2K @50fps (250 Mb/sec)
2D 2K @60fps (250 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @48fps (500 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @50fps (500 Mb/sec)
3D 2K @60 fps (500 Mb/sec)

I would love to see how big memory wise hard drives would have to get before people who shot movies for the IMAX would consider using them.