The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey - Extended Edition 2D 3D Statues 11/5/13

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

Has there been any information about what exactly these deleted scenes that will be included in the extended cut will be?

Not a lot. I'm aware of two comments; there may be more I haven't encountered, in which case I'm sure someone else will chime in.

Ian McKellen has mentioned a scene which he apparently suggested and helped write, which involves Gandalf meeting Bilbo when he's a young Hobbit at play (by way of explanation of how they met and how Gandalf felt Bilbo could be the one to suggest for the dwarves' quest). It apparently involves Gandalf conjuring up a toy-sized dragon for Bilbo to play with (hence foreshadowing Smaug in the story).

And Peter Jackson mentioned more scenes with Barry Humphries as the Goblin King, which to be honest makes me wonder whether that sequence really needs to be or can stand being extended. But I'm willing to take what we get.

Interestingly, McKellen insisted that the Extended Edition is already complete and ready to go, which suggests the holding off on its release until the end of the year is purely a marketing decision.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Not a lot. I'm aware of two comments; there may be more I haven't encountered, in which case I'm sure someone else will chime in.

Ian McKellen has mentioned a scene which he apparently suggested and helped write, which involves Gandalf meeting Bilbo when he's a young Hobbit at play (by way of explanation of how they met and how Gandalf felt Bilbo could be the one to suggest for the dwarves' quest). It apparently involves Gandalf conjuring up a toy-sized dragon for Bilbo to play with (hence foreshadowing Smaug in the story).

And Peter Jackson mentioned more scenes with Barry Humphries as the Goblin King, which to be honest makes me wonder whether that sequence really needs to be or can stand being extended. But I'm willing to take what we get.

Interestingly, McKellen insisted that the Extended Edition is already complete and ready to go, which suggests the holding off on its release until the end of the year is purely a marketing decision.

More of the Goblin King is NOT needed in this film. As for why Gandalf chooses Bilbo, I thought the theatrical cut was pretty clear on that in the first place.

More and more, I'm betting that I'll stick with the theatrical cuts for this trilogy instead of the extended editions. It's already stretched enough.

[MacEachaidh]

Originally Posted by Jumpman

More and more, I'm betting that I'll stick with the theatrical cuts for this trilogy instead of the extended editions. It's already stretched enough.

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Peter Jackson seems to be turning this film into more of a compendium history of Middle Earth than simply the story of Bilbo's one big Adventure.

[TommySyk]

I'll get the theatrical edition first, then the extended when it comes out.

[bookcase]

Right now, I stand by my claim that this does NOT need to be extended because it already feels stretched. But I know when an extended version comes out, I'll get the sweats and night terrors at the thought of not buying it. So it's safe to assume I'll own both the theatrical and extended editions of The Hobbit, just like I do for LotR. As for today, my 3D copy is out for delivery.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by MacEachaidh

Yeah, I get where you're coming from. Peter Jackson seems to be turning this film into more of a compendium history of Middle Earth than simply the story of Bilbo's one big Adventure.

Yep. Bilbo will still be the focus but he's definitely going to fill it out so when we get to the Fellowship of the Ring, the audience is prepared for the War of the Ring.

[Jumpman]

Originally Posted by bookcase

Right now, I stand by my claim that this does NOT need to be extended because it already feels stretched. But I know when an extended version comes out, I'll get the sweats and night terrors at the thought of not buying it. So it's safe to assume I'll own both the theatrical and extended editions of The Hobbit, just like I do for LotR. As for today, my 3D copy is out for delivery.

You must resist. You can overcome the sweats and night terrors.

[BarnDoor]

Well Jackson has said that he's cut the EE, but there's still stuff like CGI and music to consider, so it probably would have been a stretch to get it out this early at least.

[Gold Ranger]

IF there is a 3D Extended Cut, why does everyone assume it will be sold with the 2D?

Does anyone think that they might relase the Extended Cut as 2 seperate Editions?
If they do it this way:

Set 1 - 3D only Extended
Set 2 - 2D only Extended

What are the chances of them leaving stuff out (Special Features) from different versions?

[Ernest Rister]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Well Jackson has said that he's cut the EE, but there's still stuff like CGI and music to consider, so it probably would have been a stretch to get it out this early at least.

The reason the Extended Edition isn't out right now is because they're going to use it to hype Part Two. If they need more time to finish the post-production on the extended edition, that's fine, but then they could have waited to release the theatrical edition, if they wanted to release all versions at the same time. They chose to space them apart, as part of the marketing. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's misleading to suggest that the reason the EE is not out alongside the theatrical version is purely because of the extra time needed to finish the EE. There's a bit more to it than that.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Kinetic_Blue

IF there is a 3D Extended Cut, why does everyone assume it will be sold with the 2D?

Does anyone think that they might relase the Extended Cut as 2 seperate Editions?
If they do it this way:

Set 1 - 3D only Extended
Set 2 - 2D only Extended

What are the chances of them leaving stuff out (Special Features) from different versions?

They wouldn't sell the 3D separate from the 2D. That doesn't happen for new releases. It only happened for exclusives and the Toy Story 3D trilogy.

There's no IF about it. The extended cut will be released in 3D. WB is a big supporter of 3D on blu.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The reason the Extended Edition isn't out right now is because they're going to use it to hype Part Two. If they need more time to finish the post-production on the extended edition, that's fine, but then they could have waited to release the theatrical edition, if they wanted to release all versions at the same time. They chose to space them apart, as part of the marketing. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's misleading to suggest that the reason the EE is not out alongside the theatrical version is purely because of the extra time needed to finish the EE. There's a bit more to it than that.

Lord of the Rings was released under the same schedule structure. In fact, ROTK was a little behind and the preview on the theatrical DVD for the extended had to be removed because it wasn't ready.

They are hard at work putting together extended editions for existing films in the middle of finishing the theatrical versions for the next. This is much harder than before since Weta is becoming a huge effects powerhouse and are working on much more than just Peter Jackson's projects.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by Ernest Rister

The reason the Extended Edition isn't out right now is because they're going to use it to hype Part Two. If they need more time to finish the post-production on the extended edition, that's fine, but then they could have waited to release the theatrical edition, if they wanted to release all versions at the same time. They chose to space them apart, as part of the marketing. Nothing wrong with that, but I think it's misleading to suggest that the reason the EE is not out alongside the theatrical version is purely because of the extra time needed to finish the EE. There's a bit more to it than that.

Look I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that it takes 11 months to complete the extended edition. We know from the LOTR releases how this works.

I was just saying that a date of March for the EE might have been too early. Certainly by the summer it could be done I would have thought. Possibly they could have done what they did with the FOTR and TTT and release the TC in August along with the EE, but realistically this is never going to happen when there's money to be made.

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

Look I don't think anyone is naive enough to think that it takes 11 months to complete the extended edition. We know from the LOTR releases how this works.

I was just saying that a date of March for the EE might have been too early. Certainly by the summer it could be done I would have thought. Possibly they could have done what they did with the FOTR and TTT and release the TC in August along with the EE, but realistically this is never going to happen when there's money to be made.

The extended editions of FOTR and TTT were released months after the theatrical cuts. I am not sure what you are talking about.

[HomerThompson]

Bought the 2D theatrical cut today, will own the 3D cut when the EE is released. Sounds like the logical way for me.

As for the time it takes to put these EE out, remember that on top of finishing the EE cut all those extras need to be produced. Most of the interviews are filmed AFTER the film is released.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

The extended editions of FOTR and TTT were released months after the theatrical cuts. I am not sure what you are talking about.

I know - I wasn't saying that. I was referring to the DVDs of the theatrical cuts of FOTR and TTT being released in August, not the EE's. I was making the point that it might have been more viable to release the TC simultaneous with the EE of The Hobbit: AUJ in August, but probably not as early as March.

[HomerThompson]

Wow. August. How times have changed. Imagine waiting until August today for a film released in December?

[WorkShed]

Originally Posted by BarnDoor

I know - I wasn't saying thatI was referring to the DVDs of the theatrical cuts of FOTR and TTT being released in August, not the EE's. I was making the point that it might have been more viable to release the TC simultaneous with the EE of The Hobbit: AUJ in August, but probably not as early as March.

You are also making the assumption that the extended cuts are ready to ship in August, which is not true. They aren't just waiting for a prime release marketing time, they are doing a lot of work.

[Member-231231]

went to the store to pick up movies today and saw the hobbit..

i couldn't do it. i couldn't live with myself knowing a 3D Extended Edition is coming out and buying this one now.

[BarnDoor]

Originally Posted by WorkShed

You are also making the assumption that the extended cuts are ready to ship in August, which is not true. They aren't just waiting for a prime release marketing time, they are doing a lot of work.

How do you know it's not true? You know this for a fact? You'd have to be terribly naive to think that the date isn't largely dictated by proximity to the next film. I'm sure they could shave at least 2/3 months off that time if they really wanted to.

I think there needs to be some middle ground between those who think they can easily release the EE today and those who argue that its release at the end of the year is purely because they need 11 months to work on it. Neither seem completely plausible to me.