The Hobbit An Unexpected Journey 3D Blu-ray (2012) [Region Free] [Both Cuts]

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by srinivas1015

Passive 3D has 540 lines per eye and when the 3D image is recreated by the brain, that image has 1080 horizontal lines. Yes, there is a slight resolution drop but that is only visible 4 or 5 feet from a 55inch TV.

I'm so man and no offence but that's pure PR marketing crap. "The brain combines..." Does the brain also recreate the 1080 2D images we see with each eye into a 2160 version of the movie?

Watch a 2D BD. Close one eye. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with active glasses. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with passive glasses. Close one eye. What do you see? 540p (or 1080i)

It's absolutely terrifying how marketing + consumer psychology works.

Originally Posted by AmrlKJaneway

What ever happened to active switching technology? Was there a bug, and it never worked? Is there any commercial products available? That would provide 1080p to each eye with passive glasses now, and in theory 4K to each eye in the future (though there isn't a single 3D film mastered in 4K yet...)!

To my knowledge, both Samsung and Sony still support passive active, even if overall 3D support has lessened this year.

[tigermoth]

Passive 3D projection has no resolution drop if you are so lucky to have that at home. Passive 3D TV's have half the horizontal resolution. I have 20/20 vision and I can see the difference in my lounge room between passive and active TVs. You have to sit really far away from a passive set to not notice the resolution drop. That is the lie they are selling you in the "passive is full HD" marketing rap, sit really far away and it is the same. It is just nonsense! If you sit far away from 720p it looks the same as full HD, if you sit even further away from SD it looks the same as full HD. You're eyes can only perceive resolution at certain distances and this is the bases of the passive TVs are full HD lie.

[pug1]

Originally Posted by tigermoth

passive 3d projection has no resolution drop if you are so lucky to have that at home. Passive 3d tv's have half the horizontal resolution. I have 20/20 vision and i can see the difference in my lounge room between passive and active tvs. You have to sit really far away from a passive set to not notice the resolution drop. That is the lie they are selling you in the "passive is full hd" marketing rap, sit really far away and it is the same. It is just nonsense! If you sit far away from 720p it looks the same as full hd, if you sit even further away from sd it looks the same as full hd. You're eyes can only perceive resolution at certain distances and this is the bases of the passive tvs are full hd lie.

+1

[Lnds500]

Originally Posted by tigermoth

Passive 3D projection has no resolution drop if you are so lucky to have that at home. Passive 3D TV's have half the horizontal resolution. I have 20/20 vision and I can see the difference in my lounge room between passive and active TVs. You have to sit really far away from a passive set to not notice the resolution drop. That is the lie they are selling you in the "passive is full HD" marketing rap, sit really far away and it is the same. It is just nonsense! If you sit far away from 720p it looks the same as full HD, if you sit even further away from SD it looks the same as full HD. You're eyes can only perceive resolution at certain distances and this is the bases of the passive TVs are full HD lie.

Did you mean active here?

Originally Posted by pug1

Samsung and Sony have, until this model year, supported ONLY active 3D. This year, Sony's 4K sets are passive 3D; so are some of their 1080p 2013 sets coming out. They are keeping active shutter in some models as well.

Sorry, that was what I meant to say, I didn't know Sony made passive sets, I thought both them and Samsung still made active sets

[tigermoth]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

Did you mean active here?

No. There are two types of passive for at home that are available in 3D projection. Both involve two projects with light filters, one a silver screen and the other silver glasses.

[pug1]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

I'm so man and no offence but that's pure PR marketing crap. "The brain combines..." Does the brain also recreate the 1080 2D images we see with each eye into a 2160 version of the movie?

Watch a 2D BD. Close one eye. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with active glasses. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with passive glasses. Close one eye. What do you see? 540p (or 1080i)

It's absolutely terrifying how marketing + consumer psychology works.



To my knowledge, both Samsung and Sony still support passive, even if overall 3D support has lessened this year.

Samsung and Sony have, until this model year, supported ONLY active 3D. This year, Sony's 4K sets are passive 3D; so are some of their 1080p 2013 sets coming out. They are keeping active shutter in some models as well.

[Hypnosifl]

Originally Posted by Lnds500

I'm so man and no offence but that's pure PR marketing crap. "The brain combines..." Does the brain also recreate the 1080 2D images we see with each eye into a 2160 version of the movie?

Watch a 2D BD. Close one eye. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with active glasses. What do you see? 1080p

Watch a 3D BD with passive glasses. Close one eye. What do you see? 540p (or 1080i)

Let's say you were looking at a 3D display with passive glasses, but it was showing a totally still image, which was also flat and at the same apparent depth as the screen (so if you took off the glasses you wouldn't see any double images). Do you agree that with both eyes open, you'd be seeing every single pixel that would be present in the same image if was shown with the TV in 2D mode, it's just that in the 3D mode half the horizontal lines would be shown to your left eye and the other half would be shown to your right eye? (as explained here, for those who aren't clear on what we're talking about) And if you agree with that, do you really disagree that this would be "combined" in your brain? For example, if the screen was big enough and you were close enough to see individual pixels, if there were two bright pixels next to each other against a black background, and one was on a line going to your left eye while the other was on a line going to your right eye, do you think you could tell which was which, or that you wouldn't see them as part of the same image?

[Impossible]

Seriously this is a thread about The Hobbit, not an active vs passive thread.

Can you take the *****fighting elsewhere?

We get it, the people who have a passive set think passive is best and the people who have active think active is better.

Debate over

[Jbug]

Originally Posted by Impossible

Seriously this is a thread about The Hobbit, not an active vs passive thread.

Can you take the *****fighting elsewhere?

We get it, the people who have a passive set think passive is best and the people who have active think active is better.

Debate over

Thank you brother Dredd. That's exactly what this thread needed to shake of the cobwebs and find it's way back.

[mredman]

I just got this the 3D is really impressive. Its exactly like the theater experience. I was affraid it would not be the case with the whole 4K thing so i am delighted.

[Taygan315]

Finally getting ready to watch this.

[Jsmith82]

Originally Posted by Taygan315

Finally getting ready to watch this.

Prepare yourself............... For some Awesome!