4K(2160P) Blu-ray movies

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

In reply to both of you: Then what is the difference between BD movies that are mastered in 4K and current BD movies that are not ?

They are mastered in 4K instead of 2K like many films. For example, the present release of Ghostbusters utilized a 2K master that was used for the remastered DVD release from several years ago. The new release of Ghostbusters next month will come from a new 4K master, which is equivalent to the film's native 35mm resolution. Will there more than a marginal difference between it and the original BD release? Probably not.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

They are mastered in 4K instead of 2K like many films. For example, the present release of Ghostbusters utilized a 2K master that was used for the remastered DVD release from several years ago. The new release of Ghostbusters next month will come from a new 4K master, which is equivalent to the film's native 35mm resolution. Will there more than a marginal difference between it and the original BD release? Probably not.

Okay, But to be more technical what your saying is that, they are mastered in over 4000p instead of over 2000p ? If so, then i would definitely think that there would be more then a marginal difference. Although, that might depend on how good it might look to one persons eyes compared to how good it might look to another persons eyes .

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Okay, But to be more technical what your saying is that, they are mastered in over 4000p instead of over 2000p ? If so, then i would definitely think that there would be more then a marginal difference. Although, that might depend on how good it might look to one persons eyes compared to how good it might look to another persons eyes .

No. I'll break it down for you.

Most films released on BD are mastered at 2K (1920 x 1080) even though they are typically shot at 35mm/4K (4096 x 2160). So, some of these 35mm films that are being re-released next month from Sony come from a 4K master instead of a 2K one. I think some were actually mastered in 4K for their initial BD release like The Amazing Spider-Man and Battle: Los Angeles.

[Mansinthe]

well i think they will have at least the advanced color space or something..
but these stuff will only make people think they get 4k blurays and there cheap 150 dollar BD player can actually play 4k content...

I think some were actually mastered in 4K for their initial BD release like The Amazing Spider-Man and Battle: Los Angeles.

there are already alot of movies mastered in 4k.. alot of criterion releases.. girl with the dragon tattoo (remake).. cleopatra, taxi driver , godfather.

but most movies are only scant in 2k , after that they get down-scaled to 2k for the actuall mastering.

[HD Goofnut]

I imagine it will be at least several more months before we even see the specs for an actual 4K format and that's assuming the BDA approves them first.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

No. I'll break it down for you.

Most films released on BD are mastered at 2K (1920 x 1080) even though they are typically shot at 35mm/4K (4096 x 2160). So, some of these 35mm films that are being re-released next month from Sony come from a 4K master instead of a 2K one. I think some were actually mastered in 4K for their initial BD release like The Amazing Spider-Man and Battle: Los Angeles.

The movies being released next month with a 4K master on BD, will they have a higher bitrate digital transfer then other movies on BD ?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

The movies being released next month with a 4K master on BD, will they have a higher bitrate digital transfer then other movies on BD ?

We will find out then I suppose.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

We will find out then I suppose.

Is it likely that they would have a higher bitrate digital transfer though ?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Is it likely that they would have a higher bitrate digital transfer though ?

You'd think so, but if there's one thing I've learned, never give the studios credit until you have concrete information.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

You'd think so, but if there's one thing I've learned, never give the studios credit until you have concrete information.

Oh i see. So, if a movie gets released on BD with a mastered in 4K label that i might be interested in buying, then i should wait until more information is released about these 'Mastered in 4K' BD movies ?

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Oh i see. So, if a movie gets released on BD with a mastered in 4K label that i might be interested in buying, then i should wait until more information is released about these 'Mastered in 4K' BD movies ?

Bingo. They may be virtually identical to the PQ of the original BD releases. You know the audio will be the same since lossless is lossless.

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Bingo. They may be virtually identical to the PQ of the original BD releases. You know the audio will be the same since lossless is lossless.

I guess we will find out more information about them next month when they are released ?

[DiscoDan]

is 35mm lower quality than 4k?

[Sean B.]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

is 35mm lower quality than 4k?

Yes, i believe so.

[RebelPrince1986]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these 'Mastered in 4K' titles are really no different than when DVD was around and Pixar used to brag about the discs being 'Mastered directly from the digital source.' yes?

I mean, it doesn't really matter if something is mastered in 4K or 400K, the fact is, your television and blu-ray player are capable of outputting a 1080p image, so regardless of what resolution the film is mastered in, you're still going to be watching it in 1080p.

Am I wrong?

[Falaskan]

Originally Posted by RebelPrince1986

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these 'Mastered in 4K' titles are really no different than when DVD was around and Pixar used to brag about the discs being 'Mastered directly from the digital source.' yes?

I mean, it doesn't really matter if something is mastered in 4K or 400K, the fact is, your television and blu-ray player are capable of outputting a 1080p image, so regardless of what resolution the film is mastered in, you're still going to be watching it in 1080p.

Am I wrong?

Basically true, but I've noticed with the recent blu-ray releases like The Sound of Music and the Ten Commandments which were mastered at 4k, I believe, they do look more stunning than the average blu-ray. Even on my dinky tv screen.

[RebelPrince1986]

Originally Posted by Falaskan

Basically true, but I've noticed with the recent blu-ray releases like The Sound of Music and the Ten Commandments which were mastered at 4k, I believe, they do look more stunning than the average blu-ray. Even on my dinky tv screen.

But a remaster at any resolution at or beyond what the technology can output has the ability to look slightly more stunning than the last... I just feel like the whole 4K master thing is a gimmick. At this point it's really nothing more than a remaster, which by nature should make the film look a bit better. But the fact remains it's still 1080p.

[42041]

Originally Posted by RebelPrince1986

Correct me if I'm wrong, but these 'Mastered in 4K' titles are really no different than when DVD was around and Pixar used to brag about the discs being 'Mastered directly from the digital source.' yes?

I mean, it doesn't really matter if something is mastered in 4K or 400K, the fact is, your television and blu-ray player are capable of outputting a 1080p image, so regardless of what resolution the film is mastered in, you're still going to be watching it in 1080p.

Am I wrong?

The 4K resolution itself is less important than the fact that some of these 4K transfers are new. A modern 4k or 2k transfer of an older film will usually be far better than some old HD transfer from the DVD days, because all the technology involved has improved a lot since digital mastering became the standard for movies over the last decade. These newer transfers also tend to be made directly from the original negative rather than lower-quality copies.

[Sherlock_Jr]

Originally Posted by DiscoDan

is 35mm lower quality than 4k?

35mm is equal to 4-5K. Some say 4K, Arri claims 5K.

Originally Posted by Sean B.

Yes, i believe so.

No.

[Patienceofkaori]

I will definitely not worry about these especially since we going into blurays whats the point of upgrading once again. Let Bluray last longer, Most of us spent thousands of dollars to where they say its the best PQ and VQ now we are supposed to think that these 4K will be better then that. Im not even gonna get the PS4 because of the shitty things they are adding and restricting features. My PS3 is only used for a Bluray right now :P