Sony "Mastered in 4K" Blu-ray Titles May 14 and July 16

[jamesdevil]

Originally Posted by marine92104

So your saying that there are no other catalog titles that come out before being reviewed.

Do you even look these things up before typing?

Why don't you go thru the latest catalog reviews & see how many are reviewed after being released.

Catalog titles are always a lower priority than new releases regardless of studio.

There's no reasoning with her. She will jump through any logical hoop to come to the conclusion she wants while ignoring anything that doesn't support it. Such a bizarre, needless tangent on something so trivial. It's as if Sony is holding a gun to her head at the register forcing her to buy these.

[blu-ray_girl_fan]

Originally Posted by marine92104

So your saying that there are no other catalog titles that come out before being reviewed.

Do you even look these things up before typing?

Why don't you go thru the latest catalog reviews & see how many are reviewed after being released.

Catalog titles are always a lower priority than new releases regardless of studio.

Don't you remember Sony and SuperBit? They flogged that pretty hard, getting a bunch of websites to publish extensive articles about it.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/superbit.html

That ended up biting them in the butt when people realized that a lot of SuperBit DVDs had transfers that didn't come anywhere near the max bitrates that the format can handle.

Originally Posted by jamesdevil

There's no reasoning with her. She will jump through any logical hoop to come to the conclusion she wants while ignoring anything that doesn't support it. Such a bizarre, needless tangent on something so trivial. It's as if Sony is holding a gun to her head at the register forcing her to buy these.

I found your biography on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M...itious_writer)

[jamesdevil]

Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

Don't you remember Sony and SuperBit? They flogged that pretty hard, getting a bunch of websites to publish extensive articles about it.

http://www.dvdtalk.com/superbit.html

That ended up biting them in the butt when people realized that a lot of SuperBit DVDs had transfers that didn't come anywhere near the max bitrates that the format can handle.

Are these superbit DVDs? Once more, have you viewed one of these releases firsthand?

Originally Posted by blu-ray_girl_fan

I found your biography on Wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_M...itious_writer)

Nice ad hominem. I'm not backing Sony (you're the only one that keeps bringing that up), I'm just taking exception to those that are talking without having anything to back it up. It's completely worthless and speculative. I'm going to start writing movie reviews for films I've never seen and then refuting those who disagree with me and/or have actually seen the film.

Things you've said in this thread:

• There isn't much difference in the releases
• Those that bought these were too impatient to wait for reviews
• Sony intentionally withheld these reviews from websites
• This is all just a simple cash grab by Sony

[MifuneFan]

Originally Posted by jamesdevil

Are these superbit DVDs?

According to Sony they are in fact the the Superbit of the BD generation

Originally Posted by Geoff D

Heh. For what it's worth, Sony have sent out some internal info about the 2013 line-up which confirms that these discs are Superbit mkII: "This [Mastered in 4K line is] a similar strategy to the DVD Superbit discs released prior to Blu-ray’s launch which aided early HD displays".

[Russhole]

I understand Ghostbusters. It needed a restoration and it's a popular title. But Battle L.A., Angels & Demons, Total Recall, The Karate Kid, The Other Guys? Seriously these are the titles they are trying to get people to double dip on? Shouldn't these titles of been released right the first time. They are recent movies that came out less than 5 years ago, and IMO are not that good of films to begin with. I mean Total Recall just came out 5 months ago on Blu-ray. Are there that many fans of that movie that bought it in December and want to buy it again 5 months later? I get where blu-ray_girl_fan is coming from.

[Sky_Captain]

Originally Posted by jamesdevil

There's no reasoning with her. She will jump through any logical hoop to come to the conclusion she wants while ignoring anything that doesn't support it. Such a bizarre, needless tangent on something so trivial. It's as if Sony is holding a gun to her head at the register forcing her to buy these.

Put her on ignore. It cuts this thread down to around 10 pages of actual reading.

[jamesdevil]

Originally Posted by MifuneFan

According to Sony they are in fact the the Superbit of the BD generation

Can I get a link on that quote? I Googled it but kept getting linked back to the forum.

I've said myself in this thread that this is obviously Sony doing Superbit for BD (especially marketing wise) but that doesn't mean the results would be as minimal (I'd disagree that there weren't Superbit DVDs that were an upgrade) since the formats are different. There is a large ability for upgrade on a lot of releases, especially catalog titles. If this is what it takes for Sony to upgrade old releases or maintain a line of quality for newer releases then I am all for it if Ghostbusters is any indication of what they can do. Why is this so disagreeable for people? If it doesn't interest you, simply move on.

[jamesdevil]

Originally Posted by Russhole

They are recent movies that came out less than 5 years ago, and IMO are not that good of films to begin with.

That is why I have zero interest in those titles. Ghostbusters and Glory came in today and I got them because those are films I enjoy quite a bit and both (to varying degrees) deserve a better transfer. Having now watched about a hour of Ghostbusters I think it is in the upper echelon of catalog titles I've ever seen. It is stunning.

[rickah88]

Just got Glory and Angels & Demons in from Amazon. I can't wait to watch Glory, as I've never seen it on blu-ray before. I also can't wait to do a comparison on Angels & Demons, as I own the previous release.

Fittingly enough, speaking of Angels & Demons, my wifes B-day present for me was in the Amazon box: Inferno. Can't wait to start reading it!

As for the debate here, I think both sides have vaild points.
Sony could've easily place the extras on these releases, making them the definitive edition to have. But they didn't.
I also get that Sony is trying to usher in this new technology, and will probably use these sales as possible benchmark on how to procede forward with future 4k releases. Which is why I went with 2 of the $14.99 releases. Not too heavy a price, for me, and I can combine my Angels & Demons bonus disc to have the best of both worlds on that one.
So in closing I don't mind "dabbling" in this new technology on a couple of releases, but I don't like the fact that Sony made them barebones.

Just goes to show:
You can please some of the people all of the time, or
You can please all of the people some of the time.

[42041]

Originally Posted by Russhole

Shouldn't these titles of been released right the first time.

Most of them were, except Total Recall apparently, which had some audio issue. There's nothing wrong with the other ones.

You always get shouted down when you take issue with studios needlessly wasting the format's bandwidth and ultimately opening you up to double-dipping on incremental improvements, and here we are. No doubt WB is going to start re-releasing all those disc-half-empty VC1 titles at some point.

[HeavyHitter]

Originally Posted by 42041

No doubt WB is going to start re-releasing all those disc-half-empty VC1 titles at some point.

And it couldn't come sooner.

[SethRex]

I saw the 3 movies I wanted today at MovieStop. But it was interesting to see Angels and Demons for 16.99 and Amazing Spider-Man for 29.99. I didn't check Total Recall.

[motorheadache95]

Originally Posted by HD Goofnut

Where did you see it upscaled to a 4K TV?

Didn't see it myself, but it was discussed on the HD Blog on Highdefdigest. And to be specific, it wasn't 4K upscaling, but the "enhanced color" option that supposedly only works on specific Sony 4K displays.

[GOMEZFAN69]

A peek at Spider-Man
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23788
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23793
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23792

[HD Goofnut]

Originally Posted by GOMEZFAN69

A peek at Spider-Man
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23788
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23793
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23792

Marginal upgrade across the board. Slightly better fine detail and color saturation. Not quite the upgrade that is evident with Ghostbusters.

[ortrko]

wow this is cool. Gotta get a 4k tv first.. lol

[Nissen]

Originally Posted by GOMEZFAN69

A peek at Spider-Man
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23788
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23793
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23792

Definite improvement! Check out the embroidery on MJ's dress in the second comparison. Sold!

[blu-ray_girl_fan]

Originally Posted by ortrko

wow this is cool. Gotta get a 4k tv first.. lol

Why? The BDs still output only 1080p.

[Inspector Toschi]

Originally Posted by GOMEZFAN69

A peek at Spider-Man
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23788
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23793
http://screenshotcomparison.com/comparison/23792

Marginal my a$$. That looks tremendously better. I don't care what these releases are called. 4K or Superbit 2.0 for all I care. Spider-man & Ghostbusters were in need of remasters, and this got them done. And to think some are whining over this...

[Geoff D]

Those Spidey caps are right on the money. The new release has oodles more detail (look at the tiles on the church, or MJ's eyes) and the colour saturation is a bit more even-handed. Altogether they make for a beautifully filmic upgrade.

Let me say it one more time: marginal my ass.